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  • Emil
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2007
    • 5658

    #1

    Warning: Dont register domains with Webair

    Webair have without any notice suspended 2 of my domains I have registered with them.

    I have been in contact with the live-support-chat 3 times and they just say that they've "escalated" my support-ticket or have transferred it to the domain department.

    I've been waiting ~3 days now and the domains are down since I have to change nameservers but am unable to do so because they're "Suspended".
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  • AdultEUhost
    ORLY?
    • Oct 2005
    • 2579

    #2
    That sucks, try namecheap or godaddy
    I have been using Moniker for years and never had a problem although some people here had different experiences
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    • WebairMetz
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2009
      • 920

      #3
      Emil

      Hit me up on ICQ and I will be happy to look into the issue and get it fixed.

      Mike


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      • CyberHustler
        Masterbaiter
        • Feb 2006
        • 28724

        #4
        moniker had a privacy issue one time in the past, but other than that I've never had a real issue.
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        • Dirty F
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jul 2001
          • 59204

          #5
          Another Webair success story.

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          • AaronM
            GFY Royality ;)
            • Oct 2001
            • 46923

            #6
            Originally posted by Dirty F
            Another Webair success story.

            No shit.

            When will people learn?

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            • Dirty F
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2001
              • 59204

              #7
              How is it possible that people still send their money there and then come crying here? Does this need to happen another 10 years before people will learn?

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              • Babaganoosh
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                • Nov 2001
                • 15841

                #8
                Don't do anything with webair (aka weberror). After YEARS of this kind of bullshit I can't believe people will still deal with them at all.
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                • AaronM
                  GFY Royality ;)
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 46923

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                  Don't do anything with webair (aka weberror). After YEARS of this kind of bullshit I can't believe people will still deal with them at all.

                  They are pretty good with damage control once the problem is brought to public view. You can see that by the Weberror employee post above.

                  I believe everybody makes mistakes but it's how you fix them that matters. Unfortunately, there are limits to that though. At some point, you need to wake the fuck up and realize you're making too many mistakes in the first place and that it's in everybody's best interest for you to adjust things so the mistakes don't happen or at the very least, happen less.

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                  • Barefootsies
                    Choice is an Illusion
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 42635

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                    Don't do anything with webair (aka weberror). After YEARS of this kind of bullshit I can't believe people will still deal with them at all.
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                    • DamageX
                      Marketing & Strategy
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 14293

                      #11
                      Why would anyone do ANYTHING with Webair?!?
                      Whitehat is for chumps

                      If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                      • Nikki_Licks
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2005
                        • 6323

                        #12
                        Good luck getting this resolved.
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                        • Best-In-BC
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 9511

                          #13
                          Originally posted by adulteuhost
                          that sucks, try namecheap or godaddy
                          i have been using moniker for years and never had a problem although some people here had different experiences
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                          • nico-t
                            emperor of my world
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 29903

                            #14
                            I predict a random 'thank you webair' thread from an employee or paid indian within 5 days.

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                            • mikesouth
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 6334

                              #15
                              The biggest problem with webair domains is that you MIGHT get ONE email a fwew days before the domain expires, you wont get another until its deleted....the system seriously sucks.
                              Mike South

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                              • 2intense
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 12493

                                #16
                                welcome to webair !
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                                • 2intense
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Dec 2009
                                  • 12493

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Best-In-BC
                                  dont use godaddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                                  • Chosen
                                    • Aug 2001
                                    • 63151

                                    #18
                                    Thanks for the heads up...

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                                    • GFED
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2002
                                      • 8121

                                      #19
                                      do you own the domain when you register with a webhost?
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                                      • alias
                                        aliasx
                                        • Apr 2001
                                        • 19010

                                        #20
                                        Any resolution yet?
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                                        • shake
                                          frc
                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 4663

                                          #21
                                          [Too late for you now but...] You should always keep your domains separate from your hosting. Very, very important! If you need serious uptime you should keep your domains, DNS and hosting all separate that way you can move your site away to a backup host in seconds when problems arise... and they always do.
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                                          • directfiesta
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 30135

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by nico-t
                                            I predict a random 'thank you webair' thread from an employee or paid indian within 5 days.
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                                            • B.Barnato
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Nov 2010
                                              • 3618

                                              #23
                                              I would like an update on how this could happen / if I should be worried...

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                                              • suesheboy
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Nov 2002
                                                • 5211

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by shake
                                                [Too late for you now but...] You should always keep your domains separate from your hosting. Very, very important! If you need serious uptime you should keep your domains, DNS and hosting all separate that way you can move your site away to a backup host in seconds when problems arise... and they always do.
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                                                • V_RocKs
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                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                  • 32447

                                                  #25
                                                  Heads up!

                                                  Don't use a hosting company to register your domains... EVER!!!

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                                                  • papill0n
                                                    Unregistered Abuser
                                                    • Oct 2007
                                                    • 15547

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                    Heads up!

                                                    Don't use a hosting company to register your domains... EVER!!!

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                                                    • DamianJ
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                      • 15808

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by B.Barnato
                                                      I would like an update on how this could happen / if I should be worried...
                                                      It happens if you reg domains with webair
                                                      Hth

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                                                      • Zoxxa
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Feb 2011
                                                        • 1026

                                                        #28
                                                        NameCheap has been fucking fantastic. GoDaddy is a maze of puzzles to do anything. I am confused why there is a need to use anything else unless you are a mislead housewife.
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                                                        • CYF
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                                                          • Mar 2009
                                                          • 10973

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                          Heads up!

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                                                          • B.Barnato
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Nov 2010
                                                            • 3618

                                                            #30
                                                            Anything to take into consideration when transferring domains?

                                                            Does the whois privacy drop during transfer? (long enough for domain tools and others to crawl the info)

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                                                            • raymor
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 3745

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by shake
                                                              [Too late for you now but...] You should always keep your domains separate from your hosting. Very, very important! If you need serious uptime you should keep your domains, DNS and hosting all separate that way you can move your site away to a backup host in seconds when problems arise... and they always do.
                                                              Along the same lines, most people here probably know this but it's bitten several of our clients: don't let your webmaster or someone register names on your behalf. Make sure YOU are the owner of your name. Speaking of making sure YOU are the owner, make sure the registration matches your driver's license. Sherry had trouble proving she was the owner since her ID said "Cheryl". Similarly married name versus maiden name - when shit happens you don't want to be mailing off for a certified copy of your marriage license.
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                                                              • Emil
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Feb 2007
                                                                • 5658

                                                                #32
                                                                It seems like Spamhaus have banned/listed my domains for some reason.
                                                                A lot of domains going to the same whitelabel-affiliateprogram have also been banned. (I didn't send any spam).

                                                                The domains are still down but I've noticed that other domains from the Spamhaus list is working so I guess the problem is at Webair.
                                                                (Not only other but all other domains I've tried is up and running except my domains)
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                                                                • rowan
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                  • 17393

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Emil
                                                                  It seems like Spamhaus have banned/listed my domains for some reason.
                                                                  A lot of domains going to the same whitelabel-affiliateprogram have also been banned. (I didn't send any spam).
                                                                  Had the same thing happen with Moniker a year or two ago. My domain was part of a whitelabel op that several people were spamming. My domain was suspended, without any notice. (I only noticed by accident.)

                                                                  When Spamhaus says jump, the registrar hangs out their tongue and asks "how high?"

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                                                                  • Barefootsies
                                                                    Choice is an Illusion
                                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                                    • 42635

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Emil
                                                                    It seems like Spamhaus have banned/listed my domains for some reason.

                                                                    The domains are still down but I've noticed that other domains from the Spamhaus list is working so I guess the problem is at Webair.
                                                                    Spamhaus can BL your domains, or your IP's, for any number of reasons. I doubt that being hosted at webair alone is the culprit. Typically to get listed on their DBL (domain black list) there is something else going on. You would need to provide a lot more details then are in this thread to track down the source or root cause.

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                                                                    • Fletch XXX
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                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                      • 60840

                                                                      #35
                                                                      hosting threads are funny on gfy.

                                                                      what is the domains and why are they suspended is the real question hhehehe

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                                                                      • rowan
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                        • 17393

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                        what is the domains and why are they suspended is the real question hhehehe
                                                                        Colateral damage.

                                                                        With a whitelabel every domain shares the same name servers and IP, even though they may belong to 100 different owners/affiliates.

                                                                        If Spamhaus blacklist the name server and/or IP due to a few affiliates spamming, everyone else's whitelabel domain stops working too.

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                                                                        • BareBacked
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2007
                                                                          • 3685

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Why would you not stick with the large reputable registars in the first place?
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                                                                          • CaptainHowdy
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                                            • 94727

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Try not to use anything to avoid failure ...

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                                                                            • rowan
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                              • 17393

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by BareBacked
                                                                              Why would you not stick with the large reputable registars in the first place?
                                                                              Is moniker large enough? See above, they suspended my dom because of a blanket blacklist on a particular whitelabel program.

                                                                              godaddy also suspended domains from the whitelabel, and I bet other large registrars did too.

                                                                              The threat of having a registrars name server blacklisted, which would seriously impact their business (imagine a million customer domains suddenly not resolving?) means they will probably comply without question.

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                                                                              • Barefootsies
                                                                                Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                                • 42635

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by rowan
                                                                                Colateral damage.

                                                                                With a whitelabel every domain shares the same name servers and IP, even though they may belong to 100 different owners/affiliates.

                                                                                If Spamhaus blacklist the name server and/or IP due to a few affiliates spamming, everyone else's whitelabel domain stops working too.
                                                                                That is a legit grievance, however, that is not a problem of webair. You would run into the same exact problems at any other web host. If you are sharing IP's or name servers, Spamhaus will DBL everything listed on the name server, no matter who owns what.

                                                                                That being said, the resolution of the problem is at the affiliate program, not at the host. If an affiliate program is going to allow mailer, it needs to separate them from their other CLEAN clients to prevent what you just described.

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                                                                                • Supz
                                                                                  Arthur Flegenheimer
                                                                                  • Jul 2006
                                                                                  • 11057

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Zoxxa
                                                                                  NameCheap has been fucking fantastic. GoDaddy is a maze of puzzles to do anything. I am confused why there is a need to use anything else unless you are a mislead housewife.
                                                                                  people either get duped into it, they are cheap, or they dont know any better pretty much. I host my domains with Godaddy. A lot of people say godaddy sucks etc etc. If you are mailing or your domain, or doing something that might warrant complaints. Maybe godaddy isn't for you. I personally use them because of the stability. I do not have any issues of godaddy being a maze of puzzles. It works perfectly fine for me, yes they have a ton of prechecked cross sales etc. But its not hard to uncheck them, or if you call back when you get billed for it. they will refund you without questions. This has happened to me a few times where i didnt uncheck the cross sale by accident. I always got my money back instantly. Also. They arent going out of business tomorrow. I used to host all my domains with RegisterFly for quite a number of years. They were a smaller company based out of NJ I believe. I believe they lost there ICANN standings and it wasnt long before they were basically out of business holding on to peoples domains. I got lucky and got mine out before any disasters, but I have heard some stories.

                                                                                  Godaddy is a huge company where domains is there business and I am not affraid of going out of business.

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                                                                                  • ENVK
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Aug 2011
                                                                                    • 90

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    namecheap UP , godaddy sucks !

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                                                                                    • Ron Bennett
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                      • 1653

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      BEWARE! NameCheap runs many registrations through eNom

                                                                                      Originally posted by ENVK
                                                                                      namecheap UP , godaddy sucks !
                                                                                      Even though NameCheap is ICANN accredited, they run many, if not most, domain registrations through eNom...

                                                                                      In those instances, eNom possesses the domain ... and despite one being a NameCheap customer, eNom policies ultimately control - that has burnt some NameCheap customers who found their domains put under registrar-hold (NameCheap can't override) by eNom.
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                                                                                      • baddog
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                                        • 107089

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Supz
                                                                                        people either get duped into it, they are cheap, or they dont know any better pretty much. I host my domains with Godaddy. A lot of people say godaddy sucks etc etc. If you are mailing or your domain, or doing something that might warrant complaints. Maybe godaddy isn't for you. I personally use them because of the stability. I do not have any issues of godaddy being a maze of puzzles. It works perfectly fine for me, yes they have a ton of prechecked cross sales etc. But its not hard to uncheck them, or if you call back when you get billed for it. they will refund you without questions. This has happened to me a few times where i didnt uncheck the cross sale by accident. I always got my money back instantly. Also. They arent going out of business tomorrow. I used to host all my domains with RegisterFly for quite a number of years. They were a smaller company based out of NJ I believe. I believe they lost there ICANN standings and it wasnt long before they were basically out of business holding on to peoples domains. I got lucky and got mine out before any disasters, but I have heard some stories.

                                                                                        Godaddy is a huge company where domains is there business and I am not affraid of going out of business.
                                                                                        People will not listen to reason.

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                                                                                        • CYF
                                                                                          Coupon Guru
                                                                                          • Mar 2009
                                                                                          • 10973

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Ron Bennett
                                                                                          Even though NameCheap is ICANN accredited, they run many, if not most, domain registrations through eNom...

                                                                                          In those instances, eNom possesses the domain ... and despite one being a NameCheap customer, eNom policies ultimately control - that has burnt some NameCheap customers who found their domains put under registrar-hold (NameCheap can't override) by eNom.
                                                                                          they actually register ALL domains through Enom. Namecheap has about 100 domains registered through Namecheap for testing their back end, but the rest all get registered through Enom at this point.
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                                                                                          • fris
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                            • 55679

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            nothing wrong with enom, never had issues
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                                                                                            • Rothstein
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • Jan 2012
                                                                                              • 682

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              same here fris, love namecheap and enom alike.

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                                                                                              • HomerSimpson
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                                                                                                • Sep 2005
                                                                                                • 13826

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                just another WebAir success thread...
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                                                                                                • Tsharp23
                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                  • Mar 2012
                                                                                                  • 52

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  That stinks man. I use namecheap. Awesome service!

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                                                                                                  • Supz
                                                                                                    Arthur Flegenheimer
                                                                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                                                                    • 11057

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                    People will not listen to reason.
                                                                                                    BTW, Godaddy also calls me about 5 times, from 3 months in advance of when a domain is going to expire. Then send you many many emails, and still give you plenty of time after it expires to get it back. Would I recommend GD for hosting. Not likely, but for domains. I have used name cheap, moniker, and a few other registrars after buying domains. I have always transferred them out.

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