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smutnut 04-04-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18866372)
He was lying every step of the way. He was being nice, because he still wanted the traffic even.

How is that professional? And are you nice to people who lie to your face every time you talk to them?

Dude you're the only one who gets my side. If not for you I would be thinking I was wrong, seriously.

smutnut 04-04-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by StripperCash (Post 18866373)

I dont' even know what this means. Is this your gay lover?

2MuchMark 04-04-2012 11:38 AM

Smutbut,

In your very first post in this thread, you said:

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18865002)
He's the guy Teen Revenue brought in before stopping paying their affiliates.

By your own statement, you know that Dwreck is not to blame for the current problem you are having with Teen Revenue. I've had the pleasure of meeting Dwreck in the past. He's a good guy and alot of people like him. (Have you ever met him?) Instead of trashing him, why not ask for his help instead? He could probably get the situation resolved quickly for you if you give him the chance. (I'd also start with a public apology if I were you)

:2 cents:

porno jew 04-04-2012 11:41 AM

you guys have no clue. smutnut is entirely correct about how this media revenue rep deals with everything. "sorry but please send more traffic." predictable that the bros and fellow reps come in here to save him.

just shows who the spineless cocksuckers are on here.

Rebel D 04-04-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18866372)
He was lying every step of the way. He was being nice, because he still wanted the traffic even.

How is that professional? And are you nice to people who lie to your face every time you talk to them?

I don;t know both sides totally but i know In another business i was in i was told payments had been sent or the "check went out" by accounting.

Of course it wasn;t but i was passing info on that i was given. This may or may not be the case but i have seen it before. Not just in adult.

Bryan G 04-04-2012 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18866383)
I dont' even know what this means. Is this your gay lover?

You know exactly what that means.

alextokyo 04-04-2012 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 18866398)
I've had the pleasure of meeting Dwreck in the past. He's a good guy and alot of people like him.


Yeah. Dwreck is a top notch, stand up guy.




:1orglaugh

smutnut 04-04-2012 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 18866398)
Smutbut,

I've had the pleasure of meeting Dwreck in the past and he has been to our place of business a few times as well, and he's a good guy.

In your very first post in this thread, you said:



By your own statement, you know that Dwreck is not to blame for the current problem you are having with Teen Revenue. Instead of trashing him, why not ask for his help instead? Everyone likes the man so he's therefore influential, and could probably get the situation resolved quickly for you if you give him the chance, and ask him nicely.

:2 cents:

Yeah, yeah , yeah, remember this when you are not being paid or getting screwed and need someone to back you up, from anyone, not just Derek (the scum of the earth). We reap what we sow.

smutnut 04-04-2012 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by alextokyo (Post 18866418)
Yeah. Dwreck is a top notch, stand up guy.




:1orglaugh

The funniest part of that statment is "and a lot of people like him" LOL too fucking awesome :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Best-In-BC 04-04-2012 11:47 AM

Any one who has delt with him knows the truth, smutnut aint far off im sry to say

porno jew 04-04-2012 11:48 AM

"sorry about that but please send traffic."

smutnut 04-04-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rebel D (Post 18866409)
I don;t know both sides totally but i know In another business i was in i was told payments had been sent or the "check went out" by accounting.

Of course it wasn;t but i was passing info on that i was given. This may or may not be the case but i have seen it before. Not just in adult.

And no one believes you didn't know either. Sorry. I just can't stand this bullshit. Use your common sense and figure it out. Should take about a week or so.

smutnut 04-04-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 18866414)
You know exactly what that means.

So it is his gay lover? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

V_RocKs 04-04-2012 11:51 AM

Wow...

All of this over less than 200 some odd bucks?

I realize the perceived amounts of payments are relative to ones net worth. To me this amount is not something I would start a thread like this over. When I was on page one I fully expected this to be over no less than $2000.

Your unprofessional attitude would be enough for me to cancel your account. People like you just aren't worth the trouble.

Unfortunately TR has had problems in the past with payments. If ePassporte's blowup never happened and TR never missed a payment I am sure Paolo himself would come in here and ban you right here. Publicly. Because had ePassporte not eaten up their money in motion payments they would still have enough of a stellar reputation to do so.

If you were talking this shit to Fuck You Cash, Nasty Dollars, Brazzers, etc, they would have just shit canned you in public to let everyone else know you are not worth the shit you stir up.

No matter how much that $200 is worth to you it is not OK to threaten violence against women. Period. For that reason alone I am wondering why GFY hasn't banned you.

Maybe they have since I started writing this?

Sly 04-04-2012 11:53 AM

My belief as an affiliate rep is that my affiliates are my responsibility. If there is a payment issue, it's my job to make sure it's handled. I don't think I have ever told one of my affiliates to talk to accounting. That's my job.

Whether other affiliate reps feel the same way, I have no idea. Just sharing my approach.

I'm glad you got paid. You should cool down on the name-calling though. ;-)

webair 04-04-2012 11:54 AM

All i know is Derek Smout is a master at Jeet Koon Do, Kanoshin, kuk soon wan, and tai chi chuan. He speaks several languages, and will most likely fuck you up if you even look at him the wrong way.

Watch what you say

Rochard 04-04-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by StripperCash (Post 18866373)

LOL. (I'd hit it.)

smutnut 04-04-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18866452)
My belief as an affiliate rep is that my affiliates are my responsibility. If there is a payment issue, it's my job to make sure it's handled. I don't think I have ever told one of my affiliates to talk to accounting. That's my job.

Whether other affiliate reps feel the same way, I have no idea. Just sharing my approach.

I'm glad you got paid. You should cool down on the name-calling though. ;-)

Thank you. I always liked Top Bucks I might have to start sending shit that way now

alextokyo 04-04-2012 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18865788)
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:56 AM

who is your top coverting sponser right now
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:56 AM

different niche all together
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:56 AM

niches i should say
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:56 AM

keeps changing up
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 8:10 AM

what niche is that
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 8:10 AM

im trying to get a grip on how to improve your conversions
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 8:10 AM

and offer any help ideas or support

This is exactly what I'm saying.

The guy is an ignorant brown-nosing ginger twat & fucking bottom-feeding cockroach who doesn't know when to call it quits.

He needs to learn how to leave people the fuck alone and stop being a pushy annoying twat. This is the exact same shit he was trying to pull with me years ago, except that he pestered me all fucking day. And every day after that, for a good 3 or 4 weeks. After several weeks of no responses, he finally got the message.

If he had any clue at all about how to improve anything, he'd be the webmaster and not the clueless asshole bouncing around from company to company in bottom rung, lowlife part-time "rep" positions and pestering people on ICQ for ten bucks here and ten bucks there.

The guy is a no talent rat-faced parasite piece of shit who will do anything for the promise of a few dollars. As far as I'm concerned, he's a fucking joke. Fuck that clown.

smutnut 04-04-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 18866446)
Wow...

All of this over less than 200 some odd bucks?

I realize the perceived amounts of payments are relative to ones net worth. To me this amount is not something I would start a thread like this over. When I was on page one I fully expected this to be over no less than $2000.

Your unprofessional attitude would be enough for me to cancel your account. People like you just aren't worth the trouble.

Unfortunately TR has had problems in the past with payments. If ePassporte's blowup never happened and TR never missed a payment I am sure Paolo himself would come in here and ban you right here. Publicly. Because had ePassporte not eaten up their money in motion payments they would still have enough of a stellar reputation to do so.

If you were talking this shit to Fuck You Cash, Nasty Dollars, Brazzers, etc, they would have just shit canned you in public to let everyone else know you are not worth the shit you stir up.

No matter how much that $200 is worth to you it is not OK to threaten violence against women. Period. For that reason alone I am wondering why GFY hasn't banned you.

Maybe they have since I started writing this?

Actually not getting any check that reaches minimum payment is reason to freak out. I am sure you are elite and all but people that really make the gears turn in this business need a little fucking respect too.

HAPPYPEEKERS 04-04-2012 11:57 AM

So mean :-(

porno jew 04-04-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Happypeekers (Post 18866473)
While I have your attention....

Sponsors..

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If you are a sponsor and have this EXACT format on your export tool...

please post your link and I will sign up under you.

I have about 30 sites or more to replace ALL of the videos on.

I need ALL niches

:-)

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now back to arguing :-P

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smutnut 04-04-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18866481)

OMG!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

alextokyo 04-04-2012 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Happypeekers (Post 18866473)
url_to_video

In my day, we could afford the $100/month to host shit on our own servers. It's $3/day, for fucks sake.

Oh, wait... you plan is to give so much shit away for free that you can't even afford to host it yourself. :1orglaugh

Get the fuck out of here, assclown. :2 cents:

V_RocKs 04-04-2012 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18866472)
Actually not getting any check that reaches minimum payment is reason to freak out. I am sure you are elite and all but people that really make the gears turn in this business need a little fucking respect too.

I very much respect those that are putting in their time and expecting something in return. What I don't respect is death threats and what not. Especially on a woman. I guess I am just old school. Is this how your mom and dad taught you to respect women?

If you go back you will find a thread created by me when TR skipped their payment during the ePassporte debacle. It is titled something akin to "Anyone else not getting their TR payments?"

And in it I don't bash them. I politely ask if I am the only one. And the bros come in and tell me I am a shithead for even making suggestions that they wouldn't pay me... That is not what I am doing with you. I am not happy with your tone and your accusations. I didn't accuse anyone of anything... I just asked if I was the only one. Sure enough though there were scores of members here that chimed in about having also not been paid. Then TR came in to explain that their money is in motion too... Just like everyone else... So they are scrambling trying to convert everyone to checks and pay that account so they don't bounce...

My thread and your thread are polar opposites... And you would have received your Paxum payment just as quickly as you did had you just hit up accounting in Email or ICQ and explained the situation... Making your thread didn't do anything to speed it up. They were already going to pay you via Paxum... Which takes time because they have to send it to Paxum and then from there to you. Funding the account takes time on Paxum's side.

ajrocks 04-04-2012 12:18 PM

Bottom line, you don't need to act like a douche bag, try to carry yourself as a professional. That means even when you are having issues with someone you don't have to act like an asshole, you don't need to threaten people, make personal attacks.

Calling out the company is one thing if you didn't get paid and leave it at that. I doubt very much Derek has anything to do with why you were paid late.

Just have some common decency, treat people how you expect to be treated.

This is business, there are always going to be issues, I have people trying to rip me off all the time but I don't post personal attacks in public about them. Sometimes I really want to drag people through the mud but it makes you as bad as the people you are getting screwed by.

Sasha18 04-04-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Makaveli (Post 18865708)
Just pay this fucking idiot his 60 bucks already..

I agree :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

JFK 04-04-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ajrocks (Post 18866516)
Bottom line, you don't need to act like a douche bag, try to carry yourself as a professional. That means even when you are having issues with someone you don't have to act like an asshole, you don't need to threaten people, make personal attacks.

Calling out the company is one thing if you didn't get paid and leave it at that. I doubt very much Derek has anything to do with why you were paid late.

Just have some common decency, treat people how you expect to be treated.

This is business, there are always going to be issues, I have people trying to rip me off all the time but I don't post personal attacks in public about them. Sometimes I really want to drag people through the mud but it makes you as bad as the people you are getting screwed by.

Quote:

Just have some common decency, treat people how you expect to be treated.
come on now AJ, did you forget where you were ?:2 cents:

smutnut 04-04-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 18866503)
I very much respect those that are putting in their time and expecting something in return. What I don't respect is death threats and what not. Especially on a woman. I guess I am just old school. Is this how your mom and dad taught you to respect women?

If you go back you will find a thread created by me when TR skipped their payment during the ePassporte debacle. It is titled something akin to "Anyone else not getting their TR payments?"

And in it I don't bash them. I politely ask if I am the only one. And the bros come in and tell me I am a shithead for even making suggestions that they wouldn't pay me... That is not what I am doing with you. I am not happy with your tone and your accusations. I didn't accuse anyone of anything... I just asked if I was the only one. Sure enough though there were scores of members here that chimed in about having also not been paid. Then TR came in to explain that their money is in motion too... Just like everyone else... So they are scrambling trying to convert everyone to checks and pay that account so they don't bounce...

My thread and your thread are polar opposites... And you would have received your Paxum payment just as quickly as you did had you just hit up accounting in Email or ICQ and explained the situation... Making your thread didn't do anything to speed it up. They were already going to pay you via Paxum... Which takes time because they have to send it to Paxum and then from there to you. Funding the account takes time on Paxum's side.

I dont' really care, I got paid. You do it your way and I will do it mine. I am a reality tv fan if you aren't you are living in the 80's

smutnut 04-04-2012 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ajrocks (Post 18866516)
Bottom line, you don't need to act like a douche bag, try to carry yourself as a professional. That means even when you are having issues with someone you don't have to act like an asshole, you don't need to threaten people, make personal attacks.

Calling out the company is one thing if you didn't get paid and leave it at that. I doubt very much Derek has anything to do with why you were paid late.

Just have some common decency, treat people how you expect to be treated.

This is business, there are always going to be issues, I have people trying to rip me off all the time but I don't post personal attacks in public about them. Sometimes I really want to drag people through the mud but it makes you as bad as the people you are getting screwed by.

YOu have a fucking fanged monkey badger or something as your avatar and you are telling people to act professional LOL. :1orglaugh I guess it's all about what edge of the cliff you are standing on or something. Who fucking knows or cares.

I got paid. I would advise anyone dealing with these assholes to act exactly as I acted or just write it off. It's that simple.

Believe me, it wasn't easy and took a lot of energy, but i either wanted my money or wanted them to burn. that's all

JFK 04-04-2012 12:30 PM

one fitty ..........Who is infos

V_RocKs 04-04-2012 12:34 PM

All of this being said... You have some nice blogs... want to trade links?

BTW... You should use LinkSpun and stay within your blog's niches on both inbound and outbound links.

smutnut 04-04-2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 18866555)
All of this being said... You have some nice blogs... want to trade links?

Who me? You don't want to trade with me right now, but I will. I am still going to screw teen revenue as much as possible with redirects and stuff. Just being honest. If you have some cuckold slut wife stuff I can trade with you no prob, but these guys still need to learn a lesson or two and probably I will be swapping links to other teen sponsors.

I Have some Milf Stuff and an ebony blog that gets good traffic too though

Tjeezers 04-04-2012 12:37 PM

Derek, if you read this, hope your doing fine, kind of miss ya sometimes... But thats in the past

Babaganoosh 04-04-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18865938)
And then what? In case you haven't noticed, jobs aren't easy to come by these days.

You'd have to find another job, duh.

You may not be able to keep doing what you want to do for a living but there are jobs out there. Hell, I was hurting for money in 2003 or so and I took a job doing T1 support for a hosting company. It sucked but it paid the bills and I wasn't a willing participant in ripping anyone off.

smutnut 04-04-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 18866562)
Derek, if you read this, hope your doing fine, kind of miss ya sometimes... But thats in the past

Man, he must suck the best cock ever!!! I think I might want to get mine sucked. I wish he had a pretty face like his accountant

CDSmith 04-04-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 18866562)
Location: ICQ : 104030

Holy short ICQ Batman!

smutnut 04-04-2012 01:02 PM

What's that movie - who is Clevis Trout or something like that?

ajrocks 04-04-2012 01:13 PM

Oh snap you really gave it to me! Take a deep breath and try and be a nice person, it isn't that hard.

Deej 04-04-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by st0ned (Post 18865793)
I have no dog in this fight but I have done business with Teen Revenue for the past 5+ years. In the beginning payments went out like clockwork, then there was a period maybe a year ago where I did have to get on them to send payments (they always came, just a little later than they should have).

However for the past 6 months or so that the got a new girl in accounting all of my wires have arrived EARLY. They aren't supposed to go out until the 15th and 30th but I always get mine earlier than that.

Derek has been very helpful any time I have had to hit him up for anything.

While I know why most people are bashing the company, and I understand the saying "If you lay with the dogs you get fleas", I don't think Derek deserves your bullshit.

I have made six figures with teen revenue over the years and I could always count on the payments being here. I wish I could say the same for all of the other sponsors I promote but sadly I cannot.

I think it is respectable he even comes into this thread and continually offers his assistance considering your tone and complete disrespect. Even though it is his job, I know we have all seen the negative responses out of other reps over the years, and Derek refuses to stoop to that level due to his professionalism.

Anyway I don't want to join the cat fight but just figured I would give props to someone who I respect and I think deserves it. Maybe in the future if you changed your tone, your approach, etc things will work out more favorably for you.

:2 cents:

without reading any further...

Ill say this to you.

First... I agree about your stance on Derek. Hes doing his job, though I wish he didnt work for that outfit.

Second... Your Stoned! Of course you get your shit on time. You are a whale of teen traffic. I know for sure J* treated you well as an affiliate because you brought in 6 figures. Shit almost all teen sites clammer at getting you on board. They would be retarded not to VIP your accounting.

Heard of these guys shortchanging and stiffing little guys all the time. Not sure whats up with this guy though as he seems to be threatening some serious shit that should have his meager revenues revoked.

OK back to reading...


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