Okay, if it's really necessary I will dig out certain ones that prove my point. There is no doubt I insulted the cocksucker and will always insult his ass from this point forward so I don't think those are necessary unless people want a laugh. He's welcome to post those himself. I don't think it would surprise anyone that I called him every fucking name in the book and then some at this point.

Hang on they are on another computer and I want to give a lull in case this is something I shouldn't be doing but don't know I shouldn't be doing yet

Should change his name to Derek Snout. :1orglaugh

Anyway, I remember this annoying bottom-feeder ginger cunt pestering me all day to buy shitty feeds on ICQ about 8, 9, or maybe 10 years ago. I couldn't tell you the exact date but I can tell you that he wouldn't leave me the fuck alone.

The fact that this zero talent clown constantly bounces around from company to company speaks for itself. He's a fucking pest. :2 cents:

Yeah LOL, he loves to quote ratios and other bullshit. I'm reading my old ICQ's now trying to dig out the relevant ones. I might have to switch computers. It's the new set up so I'm not sure how to copy and past, but he has so much shit to sell, even goes back to when he's telling me about legal bait having one glitch I shouldn't be concerned with. And I was actually being polite in that conversation.

He's a complete idiot now that I read back

what you said!! :thumbsup:thumbsup

How do I copy and paste ICQ so it goes all the way back to since I first started talking with him over a month ago? I have no shame and I'm certainly not a nice guy so you can see how I started out nice and then became a complete prick to him. Why should I hide my own personality LOL?

okay, here's the start of it all. I hope this is okay to do cause I haven't heard don't and don't want to be screwing up. There is a lot more, but this can show you what a liar he is saying I'm making shit up about the girl having some family emergency or something...


Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 5:12 AM

Derek, any idea when you guys are going to send out the teen revenue payments for 2/29
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:15 AM

Hello Chuch
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:15 AM

Chuck
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:15 AM

what is your teenrevenue.com id
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:15 AM

hey
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:15 AM

i will look into it for you
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:15 AM

amped2k
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:16 AM

usually they are sent by now so that's why i'm asking
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:16 AM

thanks
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:16 AM

it's the 2/29 one, but there are two stored there
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:16 AM

thanks again
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:17 AM

i sent you a email too and one to that girl you gave me the address of
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:17 AM

thanks
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:17 AM

03/01/12 02/01/12 - 02/15/12 $95.61
03/01/12 02/16/12 - 02/29/12 $106.94
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:17 AM

yeah, but the 2/29 one is the total of the 2
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:17 AM

thanks
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:18 AM

sorry
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:18 AM

no prob. just curious
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:19 AM

usually they've been getting sent on time lately so wondering what's up
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:19 AM

ok what payments are you missing and what time peroid so I can submit it to accounting
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:19 AM

i will get you paid oiut
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:19 AM

out
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:20 AM

exactly what you just showed
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:20 AM

there's total but it just got totaled up for the next period
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:21 AM

the month of feburary is the one that should have been sent out this week or on the 16th i believe
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:21 AM

it's 2 periods but the first didn't reach the 100 min
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:24 AM

sorry if Im getting redundant I just want to be sure
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:24 AM

feb payments are missing
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:24 AM

im easlity confused here i have to submit extact times and amounts to accounting
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:26 AM

there's a payment of 202.55 that was created on 3/1 for the 2 periods in Feburary and should have been sent 3/16 that doesn't look sent according to the payment link in admin
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:27 AM

another was created on 3/16 but that's not due to be sent yet i'm sure
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:27 AM

ya the second one isnt due
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:27 AM

right so i'm waiting on that 202.55. usually one is sent as the other is created, or that's the way it's been going up to now
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:30 AM

ok i will email accounting
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:30 AM

do you have the icq of accounting?
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:31 AM

no i don't have icq for accounting. i see Paolos is all in there
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:31 AM

this is new icq of me
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:31 AM

paulo is semi retired
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:31 AM

has nothing to do with the day to day
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:31 AM

634256490
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:31 AM

is accounting doing things different now?
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:32 AM

is the number of accounting
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:33 AM

i just sent her a quick message. is that that new girl?
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:34 AM

shes not that new anymore
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:36 AM

chuck this is what I see
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:36 AM

03/01/12 02/01/12 - 02/15/12 $95.61
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:36 AM

02/16/12 01/16/12 - 01/31/12 $112.54
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:38 AM

It was what you posted earlier
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:39 AM

i arleady received payment ending 1/31
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:39 AM

can you please make a screen shot and point to the two payments you are missing
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:39 AM

ok
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:41 AM

these are for 2/1-2/15 95.61 and 2/16-2/29 106.94 total is 202.55. Payments are sent 2 weeks following so that should have been sent on 3/16 and it's 3/19
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:41 AM

Hopefully this isn't another Nats fuck up
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:41 AM

it's in there though and recorded
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:42 AM

ok lets get that take care of
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:42 AM

thank you
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:42 AM

thank you
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:55 AM

have you seen our new freeteeniepass tube tour
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:55 AM

http://freeteeniepass.com/tube2/
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:55 AM

i'll check it out. thanks
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:56 AM

its converting 1/222 across the board
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:56 AM

cool
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 7:56 AM

who is your top coverting sponser right now
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:56 AM

different niche all together
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:56 AM

niches i should say
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 7:56 AM

keeps changing up
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 8:10 AM

what niche is that
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 8:10 AM

im trying to get a grip on how to improve your conversions
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 8:10 AM

and offer any help ideas or support
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 8:10 AM

cuckold and slutwife also femdom
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 8:11 AM

it's hard to me to convert anything very well right now
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 8:11 AM

most of the top listings for porn these days are tube sites and they are giving long movies away for free
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 8:12 AM

i like the teen niche too, but that's really competitive
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 8:22 AM

it is it is thats why we come out with new tools and sites all the time
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 8:23 AM

yeah, teen rev is still hanging in there okay. teen cash is kind of good too. most of the others can't compete as far as I can tell or at least i can't convert them
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 8:23 AM

really huh
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 8:24 AM

some of the latin teen stuff converts a little, and St McKenzies a little
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 8:24 AM

if the latin stuff converts for you
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 8:25 AM

should make converting littlelorie.com easy
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 8:25 AM

actually selina and lupe convert better i think, but i did get a couple sign ups with lorie
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 8:35 AM

Hey i just sent you an email to see if it bounces back on this computer. i think it might be an office 2010 thing and i'm using 2004 on this one
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 8:35 AM

ok
SUPER DEREK 3/19/2012 8:35 AM

I will check it out
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 8:36 AM

thanks. just wanted you to know what it was. it's probably on my end so that's why i'm testing 2 different computers
Chuck Pick 3/19/2012 8:36 AM

obviously i reached you this morning, but when i tried to follow that up in a reply back on my other computer it got sent back to me
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:32 AM

no word from account yet?
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:33 AM

accounting that is?
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:36 AM

did you add her to icq
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:36 AM

are you on skype?
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:36 AM

she hasn't answered email or icq
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:36 AM

she hasn't answered you either?
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:36 AM

she is on her way home to holland
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:36 AM

travelling right now
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:36 AM

she's on her way home and she hasn't sent checks yet
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:36 AM

fuck this shit
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:36 AM

i can assure you you will get paud
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:37 AM

checks have been sent
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:37 AM

we can get you paid out payonner paxum wire if need be
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:37 AM

possible it got lost in the mail

I have no dog in this fight but I have done business with Teen Revenue for the past 5+ years. In the beginning payments went out like clockwork, then there was a period maybe a year ago where I did have to get on them to send payments (they always came, just a little later than they should have).

However for the past 6 months or so that the got a new girl in accounting all of my wires have arrived EARLY. They aren't supposed to go out until the 15th and 30th but I always get mine earlier than that.

Derek has been very helpful any time I have had to hit him up for anything.

While I know why most people are bashing the company, and I understand the saying "If you lay with the dogs you get fleas", I don't think Derek deserves your bullshit.

I have made six figures with teen revenue over the years and I could always count on the payments being here. I wish I could say the same for all of the other sponsors I promote but sadly I cannot.

I think it is respectable he even comes into this thread and continually offers his assistance considering your tone and complete disrespect. Even though it is his job, I know we have all seen the negative responses out of other reps over the years, and Derek refuses to stoop to that level due to his professionalism.

Anyway I don't want to join the cat fight but just figured I would give props to someone who I respect and I think deserves it. Maybe in the future if you changed your tone, your approach, etc things will work out more favorably for you.

:2 cents:

You should seriously read the ICQ conversation. That's just part I. If you still respect him after the last thing he says in that conversation, well God Bless you. You need it.

Part II of a many part series LOL


SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:37 AM

were here to make it right
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:38 AM

it hasn't been sent in the webmaster area
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:38 AM

and she's gone
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:38 AM

anyway I'll redirect my traffic until she gets back to work
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:41 AM

ok sounds fair to me
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:41 AM

cool
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:41 AM

just got my teen cash checks today. they are picking up good
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:42 AM

ya.... im concered the check may have arrived
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:42 AM

and she didnt check the box
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:42 AM

that says paid
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:43 AM

she is really good with sending out payments
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:43 AM

I'll give it until the end of the week but I usually have it by now. she's the same idiot that gave me all the wrong legal bait info too huh?
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:44 AM

lets keep this mature and professinal no need for name calling..
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:44 AM

lets get you paid
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:44 AM

and rocking and rolling
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:44 AM

yeah, no problem. I'll wait unitl the end of the week. Professional to me is sending out checks on time
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:45 AM

disrepecting my employees doesnt get you paid any faster.. mistakes happen.. we can switch you out to Paxum or Payonner so its instant
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:45 AM

would you like wire
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:45 AM

If this was the first time I had problems with this program that would be one thing
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:46 AM

I don't like those cards. I'll just stop promoting if that is the only way you can pay. I can use pay pal but that's it
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:46 AM

paypal doesnt let us use adult
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:46 AM

it will get us shut down
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:46 AM

yeah, I understand that but I do get paid that way from a few programs
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:47 AM

i don't know how they pull that off
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:47 AM

oh really. nor do I
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:47 AM

Anyway, I'll wait. But this is what is unprofessional. Not the other way around
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:47 AM

Respect
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:48 AM

i understand your concerns
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:48 AM

lets get you taken care of.
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:48 AM

Then just send the check. is she the only one who can do that?
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:49 AM

or you think it's in the mail but she forgot to check it off
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:49 AM

It's hard to respect this stuff. I'm sorry
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:49 AM

i cant speak in her behalf
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:49 AM

anything in the mail from us?
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:49 AM

she's the only one who can send checks and their is no one around when she's on vacation?
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:50 AM

How long is she going to be on vacation?
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:51 AM

she is going to be working
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:51 AM

just went to holland to do the family emergency thing
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:51 AM

Fine then I'll just wait, but it's annoying
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:52 AM

lets switch it up to Paxum
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:52 AM

bam instant
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:52 AM

no worries
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:52 AM

no. I don't like anything like epassporte or any of those other crappy programs that end up screwing everyone sooner or later
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:53 AM

I'll just wait and check in from time to time
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:53 AM

is it possible you got the check already
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:53 AM

if she sent it no problem, but she probably isn't going to send it from Holland so I'll probably be changing up traffic if that's the case for a short time anyway
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:54 AM

is it possible you got the check already
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:54 AM

Blue Internet Group
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:54 AM

anything like that
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:54 AM

Not in a month
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:55 AM

I got the last one before this one that was due me
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:55 AM

That's how they've been coming now Blue Internet Group, but not this 202.55 one yet
SUPER DEREK 3/20/2012 10:56 AM

ok
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:56 AM

talk to you later
Chuck Pick 3/20/2012 10:56 AM

thanks for you help
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 12:48 PM

Hey when is the girl supposed to be back?
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 12:48 PM

I'm talking to some people now
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 12:49 PM

how long does it take to get a check to you place normally
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 12:49 PM

did you want us to fed ex it out or something
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 12:49 PM

we always pay
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 12:49 PM

Yeah that would be great
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 12:50 PM

I was actually thinking of switching to Paxum for a week or two but I like your idea better
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 12:51 PM

I will pay for fed ex for two checks since this girl is so elite she is given the time to go away without sending checks
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 12:51 PM

ok i justy checked with HR
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 12:51 PM

she is gone for 5 days and left monday
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 12:51 PM

so its fair she gets back monday
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 12:51 PM

that was the emergency? Cool
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 12:52 PM

So she will probably not get back to me and I don't care if she does, but she will be sending out two checks next week?
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 12:53 PM

she will get back to you
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 12:53 PM

i care if she does
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 12:53 PM

you care as well your just being shy
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 12:54 PM

She hasn't. But if she is not gone forever and will at least talk to you that is okay
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 12:54 PM

she left on monday her first emergency trip in her life
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 12:54 PM

she never taken a vacation even
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 12:54 PM

i offer you my word you will get paid
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 12:54 PM

Right but not the first problem teen Revenue ever had in it's life
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 12:55 PM

and not the last
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 12:55 PM

but we keep improving
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 12:55 PM

and trying hard
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 12:55 PM

well there are other programs that don't make you go through this but okay if she is coming back Monday
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 12:57 PM

I agree with you 100%
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 12:57 PM

Fine. I agree with me too
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:00 PM

Once you get your payment we can go over your stats, conveersions and I can show you the new tube tours, flash banners, and 2 new TeenRevenue girls we just added
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:01 PM

easily double your joins
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 1:01 PM

In the mean time she can shoot herself in the face with a 12 gauge as long as i get paid
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 1:03 PM

I know how to convert. If you guys had a program that was dependable, I would be converting you for real
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:03 PM

really
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:03 PM

why you gotta be like that
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 1:03 PM

cause i can't stand bullshit, but it's tool to have a back up plan
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:03 PM

is this keyboard warrior stuff lets keep this professinal
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 1:03 PM

cool to have back up plan
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:03 PM

im going to pretend i didnt read that
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:03 PM

no need to wish death on anyone
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 1:04 PM

which one the back up plan or her with the 12 gauge
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:04 PM

life is hard enough
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:04 PM

lets end it here
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:04 PM

you will get paid
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 1:04 PM

life really really sucks so imagine being an affiliate who doesn't get a check when they are expecitng it
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:04 PM

my word my oath
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:04 PM

no question im with you as an afflaite myself
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:05 PM

Part III of a continuing series...

i never once wished accounting to put a gun to thier face
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 1:05 PM

are you trying to tell me they haven't paid you yet?!!
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:05 PM

its happened to me
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:05 PM

with other programs
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:05 PM

i understand your frustrations
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 1:05 PM

I don't even care about that, but cry for me Argentina or whatever?
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:05 PM

we will get you paid
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 1:06 PM

yeah for sure but so what? It doesn't make you want to start promoting anyone any heavier than you have been doing
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:07 PM

agreeded
Chuck Pick 3/22/2012 1:08 PM

anyway, I didn't know she was coming back Monday, but that doesn't mean I think this is okay
SUPER DEREK 3/22/2012 1:08 PM

nor did I say it was ok
Chuck Pick 3/26/2012 11:50 AM

accounting back yet?
SUPER DEREK 3/26/2012 11:53 AM

not yet i was just informed that this morning.. is it possible that we combine two checks and send them out the first
Chuck Pick 3/26/2012 11:53 AM

is that when the next one is due?
Chuck Pick 3/26/2012 11:54 AM

what makes you think they will go out then? Just curious
SUPER DEREK 3/26/2012 11:54 AM

that is when the next one is due
Chuck Pick 3/26/2012 11:55 AM

yeah, that sounds okay, but what makes you think that will even happen since she's not answering emails or responding to icq now. just curious
SUPER DEREK 3/26/2012 11:55 AM

my word my oath
SUPER DEREK 3/26/2012 11:55 AM

you will get paid
SUPER DEREK 3/26/2012 11:55 AM

i assure you
Chuck Pick 3/26/2012 11:56 AM

okay, we'll see. Not much else can be done. It's more a matter of getting paid on time than just getting paid. Money is sort of needed when it's expected not when some rogue accountant decides she's going to send checks
Chuck Pick 3/26/2012 11:56 AM

That's okay though. I can wait for that as long as it comes and this doesn't become a new trend
SUPER DEREK 3/26/2012 11:57 AM

I will not become a new trend.
SUPER DEREK 3/26/2012 11:57 AM

it will
Chuck Pick 3/26/2012 11:57 AM

Okay, that sounds good.
Chuck Pick 3/26/2012 11:57 AM

Talk to you soon
Chuck Pick 3/26/2012 11:57 AM

And thanks
SUPER DEREK 3/26/2012 11:57 AM

your welcome
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:22 AM

Hey hey hey
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:22 AM

Maddy is back
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:23 AM

i tried your other icq
Chuck Pick 3/29/2012 8:23 AM

I can't remember how to get on that icq
Chuck Pick 3/29/2012 8:23 AM

lost the password
Chuck Pick 3/29/2012 8:23 AM

I don't need to talk to her, right?
Chuck Pick 3/29/2012 8:23 AM

It's handled, correct?
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:25 AM

its handled yes..but in the future she handles all payments
Chuck Pick 3/29/2012 8:25 AM

that's not a comforting thought
Chuck Pick 3/29/2012 8:26 AM

or something that makes me confident in the programs
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:26 AM

to have direct access to accounting
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:26 AM

thats a positive thing
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:27 AM

no red tape
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:27 AM

bam
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:27 AM

i run the program
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:27 AM

she does the payments
Chuck Pick 3/29/2012 8:27 AM

it only works when they reply back to you and when they do it with the correct information
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:28 AM

ok so there you have it
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:28 AM

she is back
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:28 AM

you have direct access
Chuck Pick 3/29/2012 8:28 AM

all i want her to do is get the checks in the mail on time. don't understand why that isn't done and have to cover myself with less converting programs now to prepare for this in the future just in case
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:28 AM

never have a payment issue again
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:28 AM

she will do that
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:29 AM

thanks for your feedback we will apply this
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:29 AM

were human mistakes happen like losing a login to an icq
Chuck Pick 3/29/2012 8:29 AM

thank you for not ignoring me at least even if i did have to wait for checks (still waiting of course)
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:30 AM

great
Chuck Pick 3/29/2012 8:30 AM

yeah, but me losing my log in doesn't cost you. it costs me.
Chuck Pick 3/29/2012 8:30 AM

anyway, thnks for the help. sincerely
SUPER DEREK 3/29/2012 8:38 AM

your welcome
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 1:52 PM

how are you doing
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 1:52 PM

i wanted to check in on you
Chuck Pick 4/2/2012 1:53 PM

good, still waiting for your checks
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 1:53 PM

they will come madeline sent them out
Chuck Pick 4/2/2012 1:55 PM

she must have done it today and forget to set it in payments
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 1:55 PM

yea
Chuck Pick 4/2/2012 1:55 PM

yeah
Chuck Pick 4/2/2012 1:56 PM


SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 1:56 PM

besides the check stuff you hanging in thier
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 1:57 PM

would really like you to crack that 200$ mark per period
Chuck Pick 4/2/2012 1:57 PM

sure. I don't need money. I live off the fat of the land
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 1:57 PM

nice!
Chuck Pick 4/2/2012 1:57 PM

i cracked 200 dollars 2 checks back but never got it
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 1:57 PM

12/15/09 08/01/09 - 11/30/09 $655.59
01/15/10 12/01/09 - 12/31/09 $247.55
01/29/10 01/01/10 - 01/15/10 $124.32
02/15/10 01/16/10 - 01/31/10 $123.06
02/26/10 02/01/10 - 02/15/10 $123.69
04/08/10 02/16/10 - 03/15/10 $203.49
05/05/10 03/16/10 - 04/15/10 $211.32
05/19/10 04/16/10 - 04/30/10 $150.14
05/28/10 05/01/10 - 05/15/10 $151.46
06/29/10 05/16/10 - 06/15/10 $196.85
07/14/10 06/16/10 - 06/30/10 $258.98
08/16/10 07/01/10 - 07/31/10 $302.01
10/13/10 08/01/10 - 09/30/10 $351.14
11/01/10 10/01/10 - 10/15/10 $105.20
11/16/10 10/16/10 - 10/31/10 $130.13
12/01/10 11/01/10 - 11/15/10 $122.43
01/16/11 11/16/10 - 12/31/10 $106.46
02/16/11 01/01/11 - 01/31/11 $141.44
03/16/11 02/01/11 - 02/28/11 $135.22
04/16/11 03/01/11 - 03/31/11 $112.78
05/01/11 04/01/11 - 04/15/11 $107.35
06/01/11 04/16/11 - 05/15/11 $150.19
07/01/11 05/16/11 - 06/15/11 $134.54
08/01/11 06/16/11 - 07/15/11 $158.65
08/22/11 07/16/11 - 07/31/11 $118.96
08/31/11 08/01/11 - 08/15/11 $131.27
09/16/11 08/16/11 - 08/31/11 $162.83
10/05/11 09/01/11 - 09/15/11 $129.87
10/13/11 09/16/11 - 09/30/11 $188.63
11/04/11 10/01/11 - 10/15/11 $101.91
11/15/11 10/16/11 - 10/31/11 $144.53
11/28/11 11/01/11 - 11/15/11 $123.57
12/12/11 11/16/11 - 11/30/11 $122.87
01/03/12 12/01/11 - 12/15/11 $131.97
01/31/12 12/16/11 - 01/15/12 $163.96
02/16/12 01/16/12 - 01/31/12 $112.54
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 1:58 PM

there is your history of payments
Chuck Pick 4/2/2012 1:58 PM

oh you meant 200 on one cycle
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 1:58 PM

yes!
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 1:58 PM


Chuck Pick 4/2/2012 1:58 PM

i remember once way way back getting like over 800 bucks from you guys when little lupe was launched
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 1:59 PM

ya no kidding
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 1:59 PM

pre tube days
Chuck Pick 4/2/2012 1:59 PM

oh also you stopped at her last payment which was like over a month ago
Chuck Pick 4/2/2012 1:59 PM

at that 112 thing
Chuck Pick 4/2/2012 2:00 PM

you should look at the bottom with 3 fucking payments that haven't been payed yet
Chuck Pick 4/2/2012 2:00 PM

paid yet
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 2:01 PM

one isnt due yet
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 2:02 PM

but will get all your monies no question
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 2:02 PM

my oath to you
Chuck Pick 4/2/2012 2:02 PM

so we're batting 2 out of 3 against me? LOL
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 2:02 PM

no battles
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 2:02 PM

its all you
Chuck Pick 4/2/2012 2:02 PM

Dude she should have sent them by know. What the fuck is she doing working there?
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 2:02 PM

ha
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 2:03 PM

i dont know
Chuck Pick 4/2/2012 2:03 PM

it's all me. I just want my money but it's all me. You don't know why she hasn't sent them but I should trust I will get them.
Chuck Pick 4/2/2012 2:03 PM

Is she fucking the CEO or whatever the fuck he's called?
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 2:10 PM

sorry
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 2:10 PM

pardon me
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 2:10 PM

i missed it
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 2:10 PM

ceo what?
Chuck Pick 4/2/2012 2:11 PM

I don't know. It doesn't matter. she'll either send the check or she won't but i won't put all my teen traffic to you guys until she's long gone and someone else has bought out your company
SUPER DEREK 4/2/2012 2:12 PM

ok

+1



8chara

Sorry but reading that is like watching two retards play chess.

It really is that simple

Reading over your ICQs makes it look like you were the one that starts with needless insults, and Derek seems to be trying to be nice, and since he isn't in accounting, then he is just doing his best to act as a go-between on something he doesn't have control over.


I'm not saying who is right or wrong here, but the ICQs don't seem to help the OPs allegations....

If I edited it I would be doing what he says I was doing and lying or making things look my way so I had to let it go on and on and on... I was going to splice...

But also I really don't care what people think of me personally. I just want my money and to show that he's a lying sack of shit

I don't care how smooth he talks. I want to get paid. What is wrong with you people. I get paid, story is over. He gets paid to buffer. Why shouldn't he earn his money?

Don't you realize when you back guys like him, no one is going to sell your junk for you cause they think you are justifying him not paying people?

On a good note though, guys like you might make him jump in here again and come up with some new stories LOL

I'm not justifying anything. People should get paid on time. When that doesn't happen, the person that is in account management takes the heat. I get it. I'm just telling you how you come across from the very beginning of the conversation, that's all.


.:2 cents:

I didn't know there was any drama with Sarah and Fleshlight. Does that explain why she's not around here? I don't think one incident where she fought on the wrong side due to information she didn't have is a terribly high hurdle to overcome, but I never used the program and missed the drama entirely.

Anyway about this thread.. Derek seems to be really posting professionally and it's impossible to not respect that. Just imagine if he were your employee. Wouldn't you want him to keep his cool and make whatever offers he could towards resolution? It's not simple when you're in between the affiliate and the department that the affiliate has a problem with is all I can tell you. I do hope it resolves in everyones favor.

That's fine. I don't plan on winning any personality contests. That's his job not mine and I understand that too. But there is no excuse for not paying on time and to top it off he came in here saying I was lying about what he told me. He's the fucking liar in case anyone else is going through this.

Just trying to prove him wrong, save some people a lot of aggravation and maybe get my money (which I'm sure is a dead issue) but I can at least cost them a little something even if it's just a mosquito bite

Dude, if you're going to make threats...

YOU have until MIDNIGHT...

http://members.shaw.ca/cyberdogs/pics/sheepguy.jpg


..to send me $500 bucks or I show your face.

at least do it right.

That's the problem though. This goes back a month. You saw the dates and he has come up with every lie imaginable. I just want people to know. That's all.

Yes, it's good if you run a program to have a cocksucker like Derek lying for you, but it's not good for affiliates and certainly not good for the biz.

This needs to follow him. Like it did that Sarah chick if that's how it happened

The best way to deal with this is probably to collect teen revenue content off the torrents and use it to promote other teen sponsors. I have some decent teen traffic still.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Funny that yesterday you posted on another forum that everyone here on GFY was little stupid newbs and you were banned so could not post for yourself.

AMAZING what changes in a day .... :upsidedow

I'm all for seeing people get paid being that dirty cunt whore Brandi Love ripped me off THOUSANDS of dollars not a few hundred like you are out of but really you need to get a better handle on yourself and reality as your acting like you are the first person that's not been paid and this is the only time shit like this has ever happened.

And then what? In case you haven't noticed, jobs aren't easy to come by these days.

That's true and you should keep that in mind. I still love your forum, but didn't I say post on GFY "for" little stupid newbs as opposed to saying everyone here is a stupid little newb. Just curious how I worded it cause I don't want to be like Derek and call you a liar if you aren't lying.

Yeah, I just read it after posting my question and you are taking this out of context. What I did email to you was I went from the Guppy to the White Whale, meaning your forum to this one.

I don't give a fuck who he works for. I just want my money. He can suck cock from a dirty back alley as far as I'm concerned.

I think you are jealous I can work a room and you want me back but don't know how to ask LOL :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Also, why would you let this guy off the hook cause it's only a few hundred bucks LOL. Does he really suck cock that good?

No I think your doing just fine here on your own just like you did at the other forum. Start out strong and become more of a loose cannon losing credibility as time goes on.

Again hope you get paid but also hope you get some fresh meds too with your money.

Derek buys a lot of people beers at conventions.

Never said you should let anyone off the hook your just acting like a fool when you can bring attention to the matter in a more professional way. I have said it time and time again I hope you get paid I hate to see people not get paid but your just acting like a fucking clown how can you expect anyone to take you seriously.

LOL, thanks dude. No hard feelings, but you did take that out of context. I mean read it again. You posted it.

You should me happy as a pig in shit I'm outing these guys if you really got screwed for that much. By the time they are done I'll probably be owed that much on their stats too.

Dude there is no fun or WEB TRAFFIC in being professional. This is the age of reality tv. Wake the fuck up!!!

That dog in your sig is too cool

Smutnut, you sound like such an emo douche. It seems like they are trying to work with you to get you paid. Its been like what, 30 days? Are you going to be evicted or something over 5 bills? Name calling and threats to hack... what are you like 15 years old.

How does someone try and get you paid, you fucking moron? You either pay or you don't. What planet do you live on? This one is earth

Always these stupid comment from program promoters and AGAIN let me remind you and alert others reading that if this is your attitude, let your affiliates beware!!! Be fucking very very Aware LOL!!!

Just out of curiosity, has anyone here ever seen me come on here and piss on like Pimproll or Nasty Dollars or Dog Fart or even Bang Brothers (who always paid even though I can't convert them and mins might be years apart)?

You know why you haven't, cause those are professional companies who don't try and get you paid. They pay you. I missed a check from Nasty Dollars once and it was back to me before the next pay out. Once I had to email Dogfart cause their check was late. It actually was and he gave a good reason and I had it within a couple days.

You see? I understand mistakes.

I also know a complete lying piece of shit when I see one. Just saying.

Thanks. I just read the entire thread. I did note that once the OP spoke to Sarah who had helped put together some solution, he actually praised her hard work. Though I have to say I sure wouldn't have wanted to be in her position with that mess. :helpme

Anyway, don't want to clutter up this thread with off topic remarks any more. Hopefully still everything works out all around here.

Dude, clutter it up all you want. Long as people remember Derek Smout is a lying piece of shit you can clutter this thread with anything. It doesn't mean anything anyway. :1orglaugh

I haven't read the entire thing but I've read most of the ICQ log. I'm all for getting paid on time and not taking any bullshit from sponsors but I think you have to be reasonable too. If you catch someone lying in person about when a payment was sent you should pull links immediately and unconditionally. There's no sense wasting time arguing about it or making threats. Better to just take action.

Dude...everyone (well, almost) here knows that they're just stringing him along. More then once in those logs does Derek try to get him to keep sending them traffic. That's all that was.

He is exactly right. Derek is just someone who sold himself out to act as an insulator for those who are actually in control but don't what us all to know.

Search for a thread from HollywoodChris just a week or two ago. Same situation. He's a front man for a shady operation that we already know about. This isn't new news. This isn't someone ranking on someone else just for shits and giggles. This is an organization of scumbags and it should be made known as often as possible.

It's obvious, again by this thread, that some people have no idea about what happen and the gravity of the situation.

I can't believe this. The whore is actually getting back to me now. This has to be cause of this forum. I fucking swear you guys are Gods.

Should I respond or let her hang?

Hey Smut - I totally agree in that you should and MUST get paid (maybe with interest) - and do agreed financially that you have been mistreated. My only question is this - often I see rep's that don't act on their own outside of the company - could Derek simply be following orders when he brings this to his superiors and is merely parroting what they say to him?

If that was the case then it's the company management that's the problem and Derek is caught in the middle never knowing the truth.

okay they paid me. i think they might have paid me for shit they didn't even actually owe me yet. so this is how you get your money from them. just so everyone can know.

or you could be professional.

Yes, I'm certain Derek could be and now that I just got paid, no hard feelings, but this is what it took. Think about it. Is it a coincidence? This site has huge traffic and whatever they are doing they didn't want to deal with that. I don't know how long I would have been waiting but you shouldn't have to beg for your cash.

Anyways, if they haven't paid you start a thread and rip them a new ass here. Most other forums don't have this kind of power I don't think

fuck that faggot. people beware.

Man, you really irritate me.

Doesn't that work both ways?

Anyways, they paid me. So squeaky wheels get the oil it looks like.

Just so anyone who is owed anything and has the stamina should know, you can get your cash. It's just a nightmare

People should hire me. I can work a fucking room. Maybe I should start a service to collect money for affiliates. That looks like it's going to be important in the future and the future is now