Looks like it's time to stop sending my mobiles to juicyads

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  • signupdamnit
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2007
    • 6697

    #1

    Looks like it's time to stop sending my mobiles to juicyads

    $1 ecpm for Great Britain mobiles? Tell me this is an April fools joke.

    You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.
  • baryl
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2011
    • 1086

    #2
    That ship has sailed. Probably better to send mobile traffic yourself to sponsors.

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    • Klen
      • Aug 2006
      • 32235

      #3
      i think it's everywhere around that price.

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      • signupdamnit
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2007
        • 6697

        #4
        Originally posted by KlenTelaris
        i think it's everywhere around that price.
        I see Trafficshop is selling for $5.79. $1 makes me think I am just being taken advantage of.

        I think the ship has sailed too. It's no longer worth it to redirect it at the rates they are offering. Not to mention the potential risk if Google ever penalizes for it.
        Last edited by signupdamnit; 04-01-2012, 11:03 AM.

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        • jimmycooper
          Confirmed User
          • May 2010
          • 4016

          #5
          Just do a buy whenever you see the cpm drop. It's an opportunity.

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          • notjoe
            Confirmed User
            • May 2002
            • 5599

            #6
            What you don't realize is this. You are also sending non-unique mobile hits to JuicyAds. I'm sure they have more than one person buying mobile traffic. They're selling your 'raw' hits as 'uniques' to buyers who have never received that surfer before, which is true. Imagine this:

            You send one visitor. That visitor manage to get sent there another 4 times. You get paid for 1 unique hit. JuicyAds sells 5 unique hits, 1 unique to each of their buyers. You're getting fucked more than you originally thought!

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            • arock10
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2006
              • 6217

              #7
              Originally posted by notjoe
              What you don't realize is this. You are also sending non-unique mobile hits to JuicyAds. I'm sure they have more than one person buying mobile traffic. They're selling your 'raw' hits as 'uniques' to buyers who have never received that surfer before, which is true. Imagine this:

              You send one visitor. That visitor manage to get sent there another 4 times. You get paid for 1 unique hit. JuicyAds sells 5 unique hits, 1 unique to each of their buyers. You're getting fucked more than you originally thought!
              They have a URL back for non unique traffic so you can send it where ever you want. Good job spreading false info though
              Sup

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              • anexsia
                Confirmed User
                • May 2010
                • 5735

                #8
                Would be nice to have my juicy ads mobile eCPM up around $6-7 again instead of $4 and $5

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                • Klen
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 32235

                  #9
                  Originally posted by anexsia
                  Would be nice to have my juicy ads mobile eCPM up around $6-7 again instead of $4 and $5
                  Not going to happen ever.Reason why back was up to 10$ cpm is was german traffic which was cost around 60$ per cpm,and now it dropped to 20$ cpm.

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                  • notjoe
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2002
                    • 5599

                    #10
                    Originally posted by arock10
                    They have a URL back for non unique traffic so you can send it where ever you want. Good job spreading false info though
                    Far from false. I just went to their website. The URL back they have is only if you have your own detection script in place and will not work with the JS code they provide.

                    Next, I will provide a quote from their site. "Advanced Method: Redirect URL (with Return URL)
                    Do you already have a Mobile redirection script, or plan on writing your own? Use our Redirect URL client with your existing Mobile solution to send us only the traffic you want to sell. We send what we dont sell to the Return URL provided."

                    There is absolutely no mention of any 'non unique' traffic getting sent back. It simply states that any traffic which cannot be sold. To me, that means that a 'raw' that I send them, which they don't pay for, can still be sold to someone else, but, since their system appears to calculate uniques/raw based on what you send them and not which campaign you send to, you're getting fucked.

                    I could be wrong

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                    • signupdamnit
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 6697

                      #11
                      Originally posted by notjoe
                      Far from false. I just went to their website. The URL back they have is only if you have your own detection script in place and will not work with the JS code they provide.

                      Next, I will provide a quote from their site. "Advanced Method: Redirect URL (with Return URL)
                      Do you already have a Mobile redirection script, or plan on writing your own? Use our Redirect URL client with your existing Mobile solution to send us only the traffic you want to sell. We send what we dont sell to the Return URL provided."

                      There is absolutely no mention of any 'non unique' traffic getting sent back. It simply states that any traffic which cannot be sold. To me, that means that a 'raw' that I send them, which they don't pay for, can still be sold to someone else, but, since their system appears to calculate uniques/raw based on what you send them and not which campaign you send to, you're getting fucked.

                      I could be wrong
                      I think there is also a cookie of some sort (juicynomobile=1) which gets set somehow on your domain and this cookie tells them not to keep taking the hits. Not entirely on this though.

                      You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                      • notjoe
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2002
                        • 5599

                        #12
                        Originally posted by signupdamnit
                        I think there is also a cookie of some sort (juicynomobile=1) which gets set somehow on your domain and this cookie tells them not to keep taking the hits. Not entirely on this though.

                        I've seen that cookie but I have no idea what it does or what it is for. There doesn't appear to be any documentation on that. Still, I think a Campaign rollover would be ideal. Keep sending them mobile traffic until they can't sell that surfer to someone, then set that cookie.

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                        • jimmycooper
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2010
                          • 4016

                          #13
                          Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                          Not going to happen ever.Reason why back was up to 10$ cpm is was german traffic which was cost around 60$ per cpm,and now it dropped to 20$ cpm.
                          It likely won't ever get back up to $60 but I was getting at least a $42 cpm for German mobile both yesterday and Friday. My overall cpm was $9.27 on January 6th and $9.30 on March 20th. Hardly the end of the world. Maybe the overall rates dropped bc this guy decided to send them his 45-50 hits

                          http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1062344

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                          • Jakez
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 5656

                            #14
                            Originally posted by notjoe
                            Far from false. I just went to their website. The URL back they have is only if you have your own detection script in place and will not work with the JS code they provide.

                            Next, I will provide a quote from their site. "Advanced Method: Redirect URL (with Return URL)
                            Do you already have a Mobile redirection script, or plan on writing your own? Use our Redirect URL client with your existing Mobile solution to send us only the traffic you want to sell. We send what we dont sell to the Return URL provided."

                            There is absolutely no mention of any 'non unique' traffic getting sent back. It simply states that any traffic which cannot be sold. To me, that means that a 'raw' that I send them, which they don't pay for, can still be sold to someone else, but, since their system appears to calculate uniques/raw based on what you send them and not which campaign you send to, you're getting fucked.

                            I could be wrong
                            So far today I've been paid for 9,700 redirects sent to JuicyAds and 70,000 redirects sent to another broker using JuicyAds' return url. They are not selling your raw traffic, they do not even want it. In fact they probably don't even use a good chunk of your unique redirects because they have been run through them not too long ago. Stop spreading false information.
                            Last edited by Jakez; 04-01-2012, 05:52 PM.
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                            • notjoe
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2002
                              • 5599

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jakez
                              So far today I've been paid for 9,700 redirects sent to JuicyAds and 70,000 redirects sent to another broker using JuicyAds' return url. They are not selling your raw traffic, they do not even want it. In fact they probably don't even use a good chunk of your unique redirects because they have been run through them not too long ago. Stop spreading false information.

                              Hey Douchebag, I think you quoted the wrong post. Let me share with you how this hole posting thing works. I make a post, you reply to that post, I reply to your post and you reply to mine. It's a chain of events. You would think that would be simple enough to follow, right?

                              Seeing as you appear to be oblivious to the post you've quoted, i'll quote it again for you.


                              Originally posted by notjoe
                              Far from false. I just went to their website. The URL back they have is only if you have your own detection script in place and will not work with the JS code they provide.

                              Next, I will provide a quote from their site. "Advanced Method: Redirect URL (with Return URL)
                              Do you already have a Mobile redirection script, or plan on writing your own? Use our Redirect URL client with your existing Mobile solution to send us only the traffic you want to sell. We send what we dont sell to the Return URL provided."

                              There is absolutely no mention of any 'non unique' traffic getting sent back. It simply states that any traffic which cannot be sold. To me, that means that a 'raw' that I send them, which they don't pay for, can still be sold to someone else, but, since their system appears to calculate uniques/raw based on what you send them and not which campaign you send to, you're getting fucked.

                              I could be wrong
                              Unless you know the inner workings of how their shit works, especially with using their provided JS code rather than their redirect link, I suggest you shut the fuck up. Thanks.

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                              • CyberHustler
                                Masterbaiter
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 28731

                                #16
                                “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                • Jakez
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2004
                                  • 5656

                                  #17
                                  Oh Christ here we go, maybe I should have quoted this one then?

                                  Originally posted by notjoe
                                  What you don't realize is this. You are also sending non-unique mobile hits to JuicyAds. I'm sure they have more than one person buying mobile traffic. They're selling your 'raw' hits as 'uniques' to buyers who have never received that surfer before, which is true. Imagine this:

                                  You send one visitor. That visitor manage to get sent there another 4 times. You get paid for 1 unique hit. JuicyAds sells 5 unique hits, 1 unique to each of their buyers. You're getting fucked more than you originally thought!
                                  They do not want your raw traffic, whether they use it or not. I have never used the Javascript code, but I am sure they are paying for whatever traffic of yours they use. You are saying they are scamming everyone so have fun proving that. Like I said, stop posting false information.

                                  Originally posted by notjoe
                                  I could be wrong
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