Cold blooded murder in front of his daughter...this guy deserves to fry

[Phoenix]

http://www.ksdk.com/news/world/artic...ass-for-murder


Outrage over last month's shooting death of an unarmed teen in Florida has put a new focus on the state's "Stand Your Ground" law. The widow of a man shot dead in front of his daughter, says it is a free pass for murder.

When David James, an Iraq War veteran, escaped combat in the Middle East unscathed, his wife Kanina breathed a sigh of relief.

"I would worry about him but I thought he'd be safe here," she said.

Kanina was wrong; and now wants to know why Trevor Dooley, a 71-year-old retired bus driver, shot her husband in broad daylight, right front of their eight-year-old daughter. Dooley claims it was self defense. Kanina James calls it murder.

[Just Alex]

Lets hear what bigots brassmonkey and sin a lot have to say.

Any cries of racism here? Black guy shoots white guy. How come we didn't hear about this one in 2010?

[AllAboutCams]

was he black

[Just Alex]

was he black

No, black guy shot white guy on basketball court. No big deal, shit happens all the time.
Close this topic, lets talk about Trevon kid.

[sperbonzo]

There was no big media push about it, and nobody on GFY seems to care...



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[WiredGuy]

Wow, that's awful.
WG

[Bryan G]

What a fucked up Law.

[sperbonzo]

What a fucked up Law.

The law isn't fucked up.... (a person should be allowed to defend themselves) the way it's being applied improperly is fucked up. By pulling his weapon out prior to being attacked, Dooley is committing aggravated assault, and therefore not able to say that he was defending himself.



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[Just Alex]

There was no big media push about it, and nobody on GFY seems to care...



....interesting....





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Ofcourse there wasn't much push. Black guy killing war veteran in the park. How boring, yawn.

How come out racial experts aren't commenting in this topic?

[Just Alex]

The law isn't fucked up.... (a person should be allowed to defend themselves) the way it's being applied improperly is fucked up. By pulling his weapon out prior to being attacked, Dooley is committing aggravated assault, and therefore not able to say that he was defending himself.



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Has Dooley been sentenced? This happened in 2010, right?

[sperbonzo]

Has Dooley been sentenced? This happened in 2010, right?

Still in trial....




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[Bryan G]

The law isn't fucked up.... (a person should be allowed to defend themselves) the way it's being applied improperly is fucked up. By pulling his weapon out prior to being attacked, Dooley is committing aggravated assault, and therefore not able to say that he was defending himself.



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Ok its not fucked up if someone else has a gun and is trying to shoot you. Its fucked that you can use a gun to shoot someone because they are throwing punches at you.

[Phoenix]

Ok its not fucked up if someone else has a gun and is trying to shoot you. Its fucked that you can use a gun to shoot someone because they are throwing punches at you.

Exactly, you dont deserve to shoot someone dead..because they were going to punch you.

Which btw is not what happened here...the vicitm was sticking up for another kid, who the shooter was bullying.

piece of shit all around

[Spunky]

That's too fucked up,terrible

[jimmycooper]

That's some really fucked up shit. Props to Mayors Giuliani and Bloomberg for getting those fucking things out of here and keeping them out of here.

[RandazzoXXX]

Difference in this situation is that charges WERE made and the case is going to trial. In the Zimmerman case no charges were filed.

[tonyparra]

Difference in this situation is that charges WERE made and the case is going to trial. In the Zimmerman case no charges were filed.

Thank you. There a difference between 2 grown men and a grown man and a teenager also. One guy was not told by police to stand down. If it wasnt self defense then the 71 yr old deserves to pay for his crimes. And with the case going to trial he probably will.

[brassmonkey]

regardless of race murder is fucked up. its final. this was not racially charged. correct me if im wrong.

[just a punk]

What a fucked up Law.

It's ok. You have a right to kill, just make sure you don't hack someones phone with naked images. Course if you don't want to face a life sentence for that.

Gotta love the US laws.

[tonyparra]

I dont care about race of any person in either case, all i care about is what is right. When something happens to me, (ie my uncle being robbed at gunpoint in the next door apartment by black kids 15-17yrs old a few weeks ago ) I want justice: either legal (which i prefer) or if necessary street.

What about Trayvons parents? Do you have children? Ask yourself that question. Should they just shut the fuck up? After not getting answers from the local PD should they just go home and be good niggas and not cause a ruckus? What if your normal 17 yr old boy left at halftime of a basketball game to get his little brother some candy and himself some tea. And never came back. What would you do? Do you think black people are really that much different from you? People like you make it about race. ALL i care about is facts, and justice. I dont care what your crime stats say or bank account reads . In the end no one else will either. Raising your children, giving them what you didnt have (if you understand that part), being a man that stands for something thats what counts. The rest is just bullshit.

I feel for victims of crime across all spectrum's, I watch first 48 and watch young black men (whites and latino are well represented also) destroy themselves and other peoples lives. I read the effects of long term molestation at the hands of priest (who are 98% white). A victim is a victim. Everything i have learned on the streets and in life tells me Zimmerman is not a victim neither is this Dooling.

[Just Alex]

regardless of race murder is fucked up. its final. this was not racially charged. correct me if im wrong.

Of course it wasn't. Black guy going after 12 year old white kid with the gun in his hand. How could it possibly be racial? I'm surprised you fuckers haven't twisted this shit in to racial case because it was white guy protecting white kid from role model African American who was scared to death of them crackers running around.

[Just Alex]

It's ok. You have a right to kill, just make sure you don't hack someones phone with naked images. Course if you don't want to face a life sentence for that.

Gotta love the US laws.

Show me oneperson that got life for this type of crime. Just one person who got sentenced.

[just a punk]

Show me oneperson that got life for this type of crime. Just one person who got sentenced.

[brassmonkey]

Of course it wasn't. Black guy going after 12 year old white kid with the gun in his hand. How could it possibly be racial? I'm surprised you fuckers haven't twisted this shit in to racial case because it was white guy protecting white kid from role model African American who was scared to death of them crackers running around.

how can i twist a case that is in the courts? you having a breakdown? too much coffee?

[Trend]

Here is a recent horrible one..

Couple met and married within a month and stayed together for 65 years... only to be parted after home invader beat wife to death

* Nancy Strait, 85, was sexually assaulted and battered to death by 20-year-old Tyrone Dale
* Her husband Bob, 90, suffered a broken jaw and broken ribs in attack



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[tonyparra]

That law is fucked up, i have a few people i would like to take down to florida The cases are eerily similar, I wanted justice for both victims. I dont believe deadly force was necessary or appropriate in either case. Dooley looked fine for someone who had been choked by a much bigger and stronger man. If James wife wanted too she can cause a shit storm, however Ill never judge a victim on their actions following a traumatic event. At least in this case it was broad daylight and witnesses who saw that his hands was on his arms.

[brassmonkey]

Here is a recent horrible one..

Couple met and married within a month and stayed together for 65 years... only to be parted after home invader beat wife to death

* Nancy Strait, 85, was sexually assaulted and battered to death by 20-year-old Tyrone Dale
* Her husband Bob, 90, suffered a broken jaw and broken ribs in attack



Read more

yeah fucked up stuff its happening everywhere and its not about the race. most of it is different income levels. he's not going to go into the ghetto and try to break in because there's nothing there.

[Trend]

I think it's a shame that we need the law but I'll be these people would say " We need a law like that"

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) ? There have been six mob attacks, in all, since February.

[Trend]

I'll put it this way. I have a license to carry concealed. If a mob or an individual attacks my wife, my children or me.. even if it's a punch .. I will 100% shoot to kill and then grab a snack.

[jigga]

I dont care about race of any person in either case, all i care about is what is right. When something happens to me, (ie my uncle being robbed at gunpoint in the next door apartment by black kids 15-17yrs old a few weeks ago ) I want justice: either legal (which i prefer) or if necessary street.

What about Trayvons parents? Do you have children? Ask yourself that question. Should they just shut the fuck up? After not getting answers from the local PD should they just go home and be good niggas and not cause a ruckus? What if your normal 17 yr old boy left at halftime of a basketball game to get his little brother some candy and himself some tea. And never came back. What would you do? Do you think black people are really that much different from you? People like you make it about race. ALL i care about is facts, and justice. I dont care what your crime stats say or bank account reads . In the end no one else will either. Raising your children, giving them what you didnt have (if you understand that part), being a man that stands for something thats what counts. The rest is just bullshit.

I feel for victims of crime across all spectrum's, I watch first 48 and watch young black men (whites and latino are well represented also) destroy themselves and other peoples lives. I read the effects of long term molestation at the hands of priest (who are 98% white). A victim is a victim. Everything i have learned on the streets and in life tells me Zimmerman is not a victim neither is this Dooling.

[brassmonkey]

I'll put it this way. I have a license to carry concealed. If a mob or an individual attacks my wife, my children or me.. even if it's a punch .. I will 100% shoot to kill and then grab a snack.

yeah from a prison candy machine can you fight?

[tonyparra]

I'll put it this way. I have a license to carry concealed. If a mob or an individual attacks my wife, my children or me.. even if it's a punch .. I will 100% shoot to kill and then grab a snack.

You will shoot to kill for a punch, In a 1 on 1 fight? Interesting, as long as your are drawing that weapon at the same speed no matter who the person is Im fine with that. You will have to deal with the consequences of that and if you are fine with that I am too.

I think a mob is totally different. But you have as much right to life, liberty, and property as the next guy. No one should be allowed to deprive you by for example: walking to the store, following and chasing you, cutting you off, questioning you, threatening you with a gun. I think you have all rights to protect your space and family.

[moeloubani]

Ok its not fucked up if someone else has a gun and is trying to shoot you. Its fucked that you can use a gun to shoot someone because they are throwing punches at you.

Fuck that nonsense. We aren't gorillas fighting in the forest, we are human beings and our best tools for defending ourselves aren't our hands. You can keep trying to hit someone with your hands to hurt them but me on the other hand will use the technology inside a gun to deliver a much more effective blow.

If I have a gun and someone punches me then damn right I'm going to shoot them. I might not aim for the head but hey I might aim and hit the head I wouldn't see anything wrong with it as long as I was minding my business and someone attacked me.

If I don't have a gun sure I'll use my hands but that's only after I've looked around and seen that there weren't any knives, rusty screwdrivers or glass that I could use.

You will shoot to kill for a punch, In a 1 on 1 fight? Interesting, as long as your are drawing that weapon at the same speed no matter who the person is Im fine with that. You will have to deal with the consequences of that and if you are fine with that I am too.

I think a mob is totally different. But you have as much right to life, liberty, and property as the next guy. No one should be allowed to deprive you by for example: walking to the store, following and chasing you, cutting you off, questioning you, threatening you with a gun. I think you have all rights to protect your space and family.

Obviously in the case of the guy following someone and confronting them and then shooting them it should be illegal.

[Trend]

You will shoot to kill for a punch, In a 1 on 1 fight? Interesting, as long as your are drawing that weapon at the same speed no matter who the person is Im fine with that. You will have to deal with the consequences of that and if you are fine with that I am too.

I think a mob is totally different. But you have as much right to life, liberty, and property as the next guy. No one should be allowed to deprive you by for example: walking to the store, following and chasing you, cutting you off, questioning you, threatening you with a gun. I think you have all rights to protect your space and family.

For a punch.. ..for a kick... absolutely. Anyone remember this video?

Imagine you are there with your daughter and this unfolds.

A punch, a kick a bb to the temple can kill. If I or my family is attacked in any way. I will absolutely use the weapons I am licensed to use. I would argue that you are morally obligated to use deadly force if you fear for the life of your loved ones or yourself.

[Trend]

yeah from a prison candy machine can you fight?

Where I live, an unprovoked attack = fear for my life. I'd be grabbing snacks from the comfort of my home.

Let me ask .. why should I need to know how to fight?

[SuckOnThis]

I'll put it this way. I have a license to carry concealed. If a mob or an individual attacks my wife, my children or me.. even if it's a punch .. I will 100% shoot to kill and then grab a snack.

Interpretation: I'm a scared pussy so afraid of my own shadow I cannot leave the house without a gun.

[tony286]

There was no big media push about it, and nobody on GFY seems to care...



....interesting....





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maybe your new with google so I will help you
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...iw=954&bih=929

[Just Alex]

Can't read English, do you?
Sentencing was scheduled for July 23

You have time machine or something? Come back on 24th and tell me how much he actually got.

[Just Alex]

how can i twist a case that is in the courts? you having a breakdown? too much coffee?

You have no problem twisting it before court, so I see no problem here. Take a look at sin a lot. Everything to him is racist. U have some catching up to do, son.

[Just Alex]

Can't read English, do you?
Sentencing was scheduled for July 23

You have time machine or something? Come back on 24th and tell me how much he actually got.

Ye, suck put that no-one here heard about it. And it happened back in 2010.
But Trevon get the spotlight.

[moeloubani]

Interpretation: I'm a scared pussy so afraid of my own shadow I cannot leave the house without a gun.

I'm Canadian so I can't have a gun when I go out but if I could I would. Saying someone that has a gun is a pussy is like saying that someone who uses a car to get around is lazy.

Guns are tools.

[Rochard]

I don't know who was black or who was white in this case.

Seems to me a man was playing basketball with his daughter when an armed man crossed the street to confront the man about a very minor problem. Man pulls a gun and the basketball player, now facing a gunman, attacks him. The man with the gun started the confrontation and escalated it by pulling out his gun.

What a fucked up law.

[Phoenix]

I'll put it this way. I have a license to carry concealed. If a mob or an individual attacks my wife, my children or me.. even if it's a punch .. I will 100% shoot to kill and then grab a snack.

dude you are crazy.
i have kids, of course id protect them. but if some crazy asshole smacked or punched my wife or kids, i dont think i deserve to shoot them dead. MAybe 200 years ago...but not anymore. Take it as a righteous beating, and break his arm or something, but to shoot someone dead? lol
have fun in jail, hope you are good at making new friends.

[Phoenix]

I don't know who was black or who was white in this case.

Seems to me a man was playing basketball with his daughter when an armed man crossed the street to confront the man about a very minor problem. Man pulls a gun and the basketball player, now facing a gunman, attacks him. The man with the gun started the confrontation and escalated it by pulling out his gun.

What a fucked up law.

that is pretty much how it went down...the shooter was a piece of shit...race doesnt come into it..unless you look at his reasons for harassing the skateboarder.

[brassmonkey]

Where I live, an unprovoked attack = fear for my life. I'd be grabbing snacks from the comfort of my home.

Let me ask .. why should I need to know how to fight?

to defend your family without killing someone.

[V_RocKs]

I'm a GFY lawyer and have been practicing for a lot of years... I can't pin down a real number cause I's drunk...

Anyway... Ban him!

[astronaut x]

This happened about 1/4 mile from my house.

Very unsettling to know the guy is still living there.

[astronaut x]

I don't know who was black or who was white in this case.

Seems to me a man was playing basketball with his daughter when an armed man crossed the street to confront the man about a very minor problem. Man pulls a gun and the basketball player, now facing a gunman, attacks him. The man with the gun started the confrontation and escalated it by pulling out his gun.

What a fucked up law.

I agree, It is completely fucked up.

[Just Alex]

I don't know who was black or who was white in this case.

Seems to me a man was playing basketball with his daughter when an armed man crossed the street to confront the man about a very minor problem. Man pulls a gun and the basketball player, now facing a gunman, attacks him. The man with the gun started the confrontation and escalated it by pulling out his gun.

What a fucked up law.

No, the black guy walked over to 12 year old kid who was skateboarding yelling profanity and showing his gun. The Marine went out there and tried to stop fine black man. Then fine black man shot him.

[Just Alex]

This happened about 1/4 mile from my house.

Very unsettling to know the guy is still living there.

He spent 1 day in jail. How fucking racist is that?