An open letter to all the idiots on GFY and B&B

Spot on.

Well lets see if I'm wrong.

Is porn revenue more or less than it used to be? LESS
Are there more or less skilled pornographers working in porn? LESS
Are people paying more or less for great content? LESS
Are there more or less skilled shooters working in porn today? LESS
Are there more or less message boards? LESS
Are there more or less posts on the boards?LESS

Have we ALL seen the good old days go? Without a doubt.

And that's the truth. Dean couldn't sell to magazines as Viv, Micheal, Jack, Steve, Suze did time and time again. Now he's got a few sets under his belt he might find bigger fish to fry elsewhere. The days he earned $6,000 shooting 2 sets. Are few and far between. If ever.

That wasn't a great price, it was the norm. Which is why the guys shooting like the ones who got multiple sets published monthly never came here to earn what Dean does.

What ever excuses you want to come up for the decline of porn, few but pirates and those who weren't earning very much 2005-2007 would not love to turn the clock back. That's as far as I would like to turn it back, 2005 was my best year.

I don't care if it gets turned back. Because I was an asshole to Squealer and others like him. I could concentrate on shooting content that made better money then his idea would ever make. Problem is people believe his illogical lies. I forgot who he was, he didn't make that much of an impression on me and his story was largely lies. Or he's the most stupid person for hanging around me all day.

Unlike most here. I experienced a time when spending $25,000 shooting a single scene of no great importance was possible and very profitable. A time when a porn shop would turn over $2-$3 million a year. At a huge profit margin. Sounds small, multiply it by 100 for just one chain. A time when piracy was a prick in the profits, not a slash or chopping off of them.

Maybe it was a time when there were less people all earning more per person. Or maybe if you count all the shops, video sales, rental, mail order, magazines, cable TV, phone ads, hotel chains, etc. You realise it can never be replaced by porn online, not with the free sector or piracy.

Maybe it was a time people were paying big bucks for below average content. Pity Dean couldn't get to it. He worked for Steve Hicks, so he knew where the real money was.

Now Rochard, debate the points I posted and show where I got it wrong. Didn't you used to own a paysite?

I'm actually starting to feel sorry for Paul. He's so desperate for recognition yet after being called out and caught as a liar time after time he just doesn't understand that he doesn't have any credibility at all. To top it all off his mail order bride doesn't even want anything to do with him. Can't blame her really. As if she's going to bring her friends around him so he can creep on them too.

It's pathetic Paul but you made the bed you're being forced to lay in.

I don't usually get sucked into these things, but how come everyone seems to get sucked in? Is it a "pile on" factor or something? I've just never seen so many replies to a person people claim is not worth time replying, or words to that effect.

Anyway, good luck. ? Or something.

when everyone think you are wrong, chances are, you are wrong.

Here are some random reasons why internet porn doesn't seem to be selling as much as it used to:
1) When internet porn started, that's when content creation for the internet started too, which meant porn was new to everyone that saw it at the start and took a while for things to get oversaturated and higher quality to make the older porn seem worthless to buy.
2) Much more webmasters are promoting the same thing since more people have computers and are in need of making a few extra bucks these days and hosting is super cheap compared to the 90s (Affiliate marketing got me out of poverty)
3) Blackhat and cookie stuffing cheaters
4) Some 'webmasters' just suck and like to complain about it even if they've never made money in the past either..
5) Internet connection speed is much better than before so promoting only image FHGs doesn't quite cut it anymore by itself..
6) There's a lot more to do on the internet nowaday than just research and jerk off like it used to be...

The point is if you have good content and promote it well with good selling text, minimal leaks on the page, frequent members area updates, great landing page with clear info of what the surfer is getting, and know how to promote your niche, then you can make good money. The amount of money that people spend on porn is determined by how good you are at selling.. ;)

I don't think tubes are the problem..

Go up Mr. P. all support from the south islands for you

Then why did you come to see me and subject yourself and your assistant to such a failure. Who's also a person who you found terrible?

Explanations are due. Still everyone believes you.

Hey Paul, I bet when your family hear about your plan to turn over 16 bucks a day things will get better!

Yes, everyone does, because you lied and he proved you to be a liar. As have I, as have many people.

Thanks for the reply rather than the abuse.

Not true. When the Internet started was in the 50s. The history of the Internet began with the development of computers in the 1950s. Until the introduction of Digital Cameras it was mostly scans off pages from magazines or slides. Which were mostly produced by professionals like me. The first affordable ones were around 1998 if my memory serves me right. There were ones before, but very expensive. Olympus and Nikon were early in this race.

It wasn't till then that online shooters could afford a digital camera.
Agreed. We have 10,000s of affiliates between the creators/publishers and customers. Do they make the same money the offline retail made? I very much doubt it. Never met an affiliate worth what some retail pornographers are worth. They were not people living in the Philippines. ;)

Online has been a boom for all the cheaters, scammers, freeloaders, pirates, etc.
It can still make them some money. They have 0 investment, 0 to lose, yet moan. Go figure.

Yes the speed online and the competition to give porn away has slashed online income. Speed was a silver line, on base metal for most.

True, once the "free" is taken out of the Internet. It will become what it should be. Culture needs to change, people who think "If it's online it should be free." Are dinosaurs. The Internet is business. We can entertain to get traffic to sell advertising. But we can't keep giving the product away for free. Someone somewhere has to pay. Which is why today offline retail mainstream is rushing to get online. I just ordered a $800 data storage unit. Can't frigging pirate that or give it away.

True. But it comes down to the producer of the product to create something that will convert and retain traffic. In porn that's for the elite group of sites. Most can\t afford it and it's cheaper to spend more on traffic and less on the product in some sphere of the Internet.

For porn Tubes are the problem along with piracy. If a shooter spends the money to fly to Bali with the top crew and talent to create the greatest porn. Online can't afford it. DVDs did many times. Digital Playground and a few others, could never support their production on Internet sales alone.

1 thing you got wrong, another we disagree on, the rest.

don't you get it? no one gives a fuck what you say? nobody?