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Old 04-10-2012, 10:14 PM   #1
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CCBILL vs ALL OTHERS

I have a client in asia, and wanted to accept payments in his project.
He has Registered llc in europe.

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Visa will only allow registration for those clients who can provide proof of residence in the EU, US, or Canada.
it means he has to relocate to europe for ccbill to accept visa cards for him.

All others (segpay,commercegate,zombaio) says

Documents of LLC registered in europe will work for him to process visa.

verotel says

Dont need Europe llc .

why so much difference in policies ?
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Old 04-10-2012, 10:23 PM   #2
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It is the anomaly of processing. Seems like your client would be fine with the others so who cares?
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Old 04-10-2012, 10:26 PM   #3
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It is the anomaly of processing. Seems like your client would be fine with the others so who cares?
he is interested in ccbill because the ccbill's affiliate system, and lots of webmasters trust it.

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Old 04-10-2012, 10:28 PM   #4
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he is interested in ccbill because the ccbill's affiliate system, and lots of webmasters trust it.

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Is he a big dollar client?
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Old 04-10-2012, 10:33 PM   #5
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Is he a big dollar client?
nope., he is small scale.
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Old 04-10-2012, 10:33 PM   #6
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ccbill is stuck in the 1990s
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Old 04-10-2012, 10:35 PM   #7
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nope., he is small scale.
Well send him my way if he wants to get bigger.
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Well send him my way if he wants to get bigger.
sure will do once this project takes off
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Check with Cathy at Segpay she may be able to help. http://segpay.com
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I have a client in asia, and wanted to accept payments in his project.
He has Registered llc in europe.

CCbill says


it means he has to relocate to europe for ccbill to accept visa cards for him.

All others (segpay,commercegate,zombaio) says

Documents of LLC registered in europe will work for him to process visa.

verotel says

Dont need Europe llc .

why so much difference in policies ?

By the way, Beaner is his man if he wants to grow his business

The perfect setup for your client would be: Setup with CCBill and it's affiliate system + Sliiing as backend affiliate software enhancer.

WHY ?

1- Affiliates trust CCBill more than any other billers however their system is kind of dated
2- That's where Sliiing can help and put some steroids in CCBill's affiliate program!


Quickly, here are some benefits for your client if he decides to use Sliiing along with CCBill:

a) Ability to offer any other credit card biller (Sliiing has an integrated cascade function)
b) Ability to offer european Direct Pay with recurring, international telephone billing, sms billing. Sliiing tracks sales and pays your affiliates for you.
c) Sliiing offers promotion tools for his affiliates.
d) Sliiing offers much better stats than CCBill's
e) Sliiing is 100% compatible with CCBill's links. Nothing to change on the server's configuration, Sliiing just work in the background

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Old 04-11-2012, 01:01 AM   #11
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Check with Cathy at Segpay she may be able to help. http://segpay.com
Thanks, i already talked with her, and she was very helpful.

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By the way, Beaner is his man if he wants to grow his business

The perfect setup for your client would be: Setup with CCBill and it's affiliate system + Sliiing as backend affiliate software enhancer.

WHY ?

1- Affiliates trust CCBill more than any other billers however their system is kind of dated
2- That's where Sliiing can help and put some steroids in CCBill's affiliate program!


Quickly, here are some benefits for your client if he decides to use Sliiing along with CCBill:

a) Ability to offer any other credit card biller (Sliiing has an integrated cascade function)
b) Ability to offer european Direct Pay with recurring, international telephone billing, sms billing. Sliiing tracks sales and pays your affiliates for you.
c) Sliiing offers promotion tools for his affiliates.
d) Sliiing offers much better stats than CCBill's
e) Sliiing is 100% compatible with CCBill's links. Nothing to change on the server's configuration, Sliiing just work in the background

looks good., will check it out.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:07 AM   #12
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By the way, Beaner is his man if he wants to grow his business

The perfect setup for your client would be: Setup with CCBill and it's affiliate system + Sliiing as backend affiliate software enhancer.

WHY ?

1- Affiliates trust CCBill more than any other billers however their system is kind of dated
2- That's where Sliiing can help and put some steroids in CCBill's affiliate program!


Quickly, here are some benefits for your client if he decides to use Sliiing along with CCBill:

a) Ability to offer any other credit card biller (Sliiing has an integrated cascade function)
b) Ability to offer european Direct Pay with recurring, international telephone billing, sms billing. Sliiing tracks sales and pays your affiliates for you.
c) Sliiing offers promotion tools for his affiliates.
d) Sliiing offers much better stats than CCBill's
e) Sliiing is 100% compatible with CCBill's links. Nothing to change on the server's configuration, Sliiing just work in the background

Definitely had to Q F T

There is no reason on God's green earth why one should not use sliiing to at the very least help improve the efficiency of your stats.

Without accurate and detailed stats you are taking shots in the dark. Get your stats platform set up and then you will better be able to track,manage, and understand what traffic leads are optimal for you to convert.

Can't say enough good things about sliiing, as they seem to take more pride and more interest in helping you "actually" grow and improve your business with some extremely robust tools.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:24 AM   #13
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Set him up with a proper affiliate system that will give him everything he needs, allow him to run his business how he sees fit, and grow with his business.

https://www.toomuchmedia.com/pp_nats.htm

You can get a fully featured CRM/affiliate system for basically the same price as the one man operation scripts out there which are not providing you anywhere near the same functionality as NATS will.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:30 AM   #14
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CCBill's backend tools like data link are head and shoulders above the rest. These are the things you may not notice at first, but when you try to do something beyond the basics later it can really make a difference. Even something as simple as adjusting it to use modern encryption for passwords can be very difficult with other billers. With CCBill it is ten minutes from start to finished and tested. Their system is just far better engineered and more feature rich, allowing for things like variable prices.

I would double check with about the European LLC. If you open an account for the LLC and show proof that the LLC is in Europe, it may not matter where a member of the LLC is. Don't ask about an account for someone outside of Europe who has a Europe LLC, ask about an account for an LLC in Europe. The LLC happens to have a member outside of Europe, but the account is for the LLC, not for the person.

If the LLC may run into similar problems in the future, it could add a minority partner, even a 1% member, who is in Europe. That's a key element of what an LLC is for - to provide a structure for multiple people ("members") to have a business together.
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Old 04-11-2012, 07:59 AM   #15
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I have a client in asia, and wanted to accept payments in his project. He has Registered llc in europe.

CCbill says


it means he has to relocate to europe for ccbill to accept visa cards for him.

All others (segpay,commercegate,zombaio) says

Documents of LLC registered in europe will work for him to process visa.

verotel says

Dont need Europe llc .

why so much difference in policies ?
CCBill is the biggest and best. Perhaps they experienced massive fraud originating in Asian regions from people opening an LLC online and pretending to be located in the US, EU or Canada who knows?

The last thing I'd do is try to circumvent their safeguards.
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