Do some websites run at a loss with affiliates? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

papill0n · 03-16-2012, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

papill0n
This message is hidden because papill0n is on your ignore list.

If he's posted anything but his usual childish babble, can someone quote it please.

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For a little while, people can start free forums full of pirated content, Tubes and other means to get traffic. Ultimately they're teaching the surfer to not pay for the product they rely on for their sales. Which has led us to 3/17/2012 when a free hosted tube is worth shit money selling traffic. Because the people in the business lost the plot form the beginning.

People are not stats, clicks on a banner, uniques hitting a web page. They are people. People that porn sellers need to keep happy if they want them to keep buying. And the stats, clicks, uniques are all telling you the same thing today. They are happier taking the free product rather than paying.

If you convert 1-100 surfers on a website, that's losing 99%. If you convert 1-,1,000 that's losing 0.99%. Not clicks on a banner, surfers who hit any porn site.

PRs Tube would be the tool of the century if it got 1-1,000 to buy something. Which shows you how low porn has shrunk.

Still what do I know, you guys who know so much made this all possible.

papill0n besides making stupid posts, what do you do for a living? Come on stand up and show us where your business is. Not on a piracy forum is it? Saw the same nick and loge there, which made me wonder.

not much paul

this morning I scraped google for a list of all dvtimes mainstream hosting customers and mailed them some links

you ?

Paul Markham · 03-17-2012, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by garce

Wow. I'm just stunned that anyone would give this asshat a straight answer.

Adam maybe an asshat, but it's a very good question given todays market.

Paul Markham · 03-17-2012, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by papill0n

not much paul

this morning I scraped google for a list of all dvtimes mainstream hosting customers and mailed them some links

you ?

Woke up very early and had a bad night last night. Morning was lots of coffee, breakfast, posting here and then taking the dog for a walk, later going to the hairdressers, then shopping then cooking lunch. Then we might go to the home ware store here as I need to fix a new shower and shelf. Maybe go for a walk again in the afternoon. The day will be spent with the family and I will go to see Eva's Mum.

I would be silent with nothing to say if this business was booming. As it's clearly in decline and for years I've pointed out some mistakes, like thinking traffic is so important, I now am fully justified to post saying where we went wrong. Do you think if it would of been better if I had never said anything about where we were going wrong. Like so many others?

Yes you need traffic. We just lost the idea that traffic is people and they are not at the beck and call of us. And that today has cost us dearly, we taught traffic (people) not to buy. Using many different methods. Free content in what ever form it takes, bad sites, scamming customers and other things. Now people are leaving the buying mode.

Make money while you can. If you have enough to retire on then good, if not plan for a the future.

papill0n · 03-17-2012, 12:42 AM

listen dickhead if you realize that you need traffic and its so easy to get then why dont you just stfu and get yourself some ?

porno jew · 03-17-2012, 12:46 AM

why give advice when no one wants it? no one literally gives a fuck.

Paul Markham · 03-17-2012, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by papill0n

listen dickhead if you realize that you need traffic and its so easy to get then why dont you just stfu and get yourself some ?

Listen dickhead. I get traffic without even working for it. Admittedly not a lot now as I stopped working 3.5 years ago. Still get some though.

You don't need traffic as much as you need sales and that's people buying. Something online porn lost site of and now paying the price. Traffic isn't the solution or goal. Sales are.

So STFU and go do some work fucktard. You need the money I don't and that must get stuck in your throat.

VenusBlogger · 03-17-2012, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Affiliates will always be around in some way as long as they have traffic. I already make more overall on average by selling my traffic or sending it to cams or dating rather than sending it to paysite sponsor programs. Do you really think I'm going to go for 20% revshare instead of 50% when I already make more by selling the traffic instead? Complete with the cross sales, signing members up to dating programs on the pre-join form via API, and the member area upsells, shaving, etc. too?

In the days where piracy rules affiliates don't even need sponsors if they want to be dishonest. All they need do is steal your content and toss it up on a tube while selling the traffic or putting up dating sponsors. I would think twice before pissing on your affiliates too much. Half of you already encourage it anyway by sucking the cocks of those who steal from you.

Where do you sell your traffic? Just wondering..

I tried all those exo, plugriush and all those sites, but they make cents.... with the same traffic I send to a paysite and get 15 revshare...

I can't see how you make more by selling your traffic.

Also cam sponsors don't convert, 0:15,000 unless you less some cookie stuffing, or shitty software spamming people on msn or facebook or shit like that... And I fI need to do that, I would rather switch over to another business... It's pathetic to do those shitty things to try to grab a sale.

DamianJ · 03-17-2012, 03:26 AM

Nice to see Paul's stopped lying about Papillion being on his made up ignore list.

Didn't take long.

Also I wager he will continue posting here all day as he is lying about going out.

Roald · 03-17-2012, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by VenusBlogger

Where do you sell your traffic? Just wondering..

I tried all those exo, plugriush and all those sites, but they make cents.... with the same traffic I send to a paysite and get 15 revshare...

I can't see how you make more by selling your traffic.

Also cam sponsors don't convert, 0:15,000 unless you less some cookie stuffing, or shitty software spamming people on msn or facebook or shit like that... And I fI need to do that, I would rather switch over to another business... It's pathetic to do those shitty things to try to grab a sale.

Yes we get it, you are not able to convert cams. Do you really have to post that in every thread?!?

03-17-2012, 12:42 AM	#54
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	listen dickhead if you realize that you need traffic and its so easy to get then why dont you just stfu and get yourself some ?

03-17-2012, 12:46 AM	#55
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	why give advice when no one wants it? no one literally gives a fuck.

03-17-2012, 03:26 AM	#58
DamianJ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land Posts: 15,808	Nice to see Paul's stopped lying about Papillion being on his made up ignore list. Didn't take long. Also I wager he will continue posting here all day as he is lying about going out.