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  • u-Bob
    there's no $$$ in porn
    • Jul 2005
    • 33063

    #1

    Google and Facebook blocked by the Danish child pornography filter

    ... .

    in the morning of 1 march 2012, about 8000 websites, including google and
    facebook, were blocked by the danish child pornography (cp) filter. When the
    customers of the affected isps, siminn denmark and tele greenland, made
    google searches or accessed their facebook pages, they were met by the stop
    page for the danish cp filter. The stop page warns people that they are
    trying to access websites with cp content, and that even viewing such
    content is illegal under the danish law.

    The danish cp filter is implemented using dns hijacking (dns redirection).
    The participating isps (which are all mainstream isps with private customers
    in denmark) receive a list of domains to be blocked from the danish police,
    and the isps implement this list in their dns resolvers. This is done in a
    completely automatic process, and the isps believe that the danish police is
    responsible for the domains on the blocking list (although the police
    usually claim that they are merely simply providing a "service" to the isps,
    so the legal ramifications of who is responsible for what remain unclear).

    The police made a serious error when they added the 8000 legitimate domains
    to the blocking list, including google.com and facebook.com. The error only
    affected two smaller isps in denmark, because they were the first to do the
    daily cp list update on their dns resolvers, but this was sheer luck. It
    could just as well have affected tdc, the largest danish isp. The vigilant
    technical support staff at siminn denmark immediately alerted the danish
    police about the error, so that the blocking list was not pushed to the rest
    of the danish isps.

    The danish police have issued a public statement about their error and made
    some comments to journalists. A police officer was investigating a number of
    websites, and by accident he copied the list with 8000 legitimate domains to
    a file directory that was used for updating the cp domain blocking list. The
    human error combined with sloppy procedures escalated into something that
    can almost be described as a "kill switch" for the internet in denmark.
    Attempts to censor the internet always create an artificial single point of
    failure.
    ...
  • lucas131
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    • Aug 2004
    • 11475

    #2
    yeah, there we go, censorship because you have no skills to block the problematic content, so block everything ... ill stupids

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    • Markul
      Likes Pie
      • Dec 2007
      • 12403

      #3
      Not true.
      But.... I pulled out...

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      • u-Bob
        there's no $$$ in porn
        • Jul 2005
        • 33063

        #4
        Originally posted by Markul
        Not true.
        which part?

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        • Markul
          Likes Pie
          • Dec 2007
          • 12403

          #5
          Wait. That did happen, but only for people in certain parts of the country.
          But.... I pulled out...

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          • u-Bob
            there's no $$$ in porn
            • Jul 2005
            • 33063

            #6
            Originally posted by Markul
            Wait. That did happen, but only for people in certain parts of the country.
            Yes, as I explained in OP the staff at one of the ISPs that updated their list first caught the problem and this way they prevented the problem from spreading to other ISPs.

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            • u-Bob
              there's no $$$ in porn
              • Jul 2005
              • 33063

              #7
              Danish police apologizing: http://www.politi.dk/da/aktuelt/nyhe...kortvarigt.htm

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              • AdultEUhost
                ORLY?
                • Oct 2005
                • 2579

                #8
                It's pretty clear though that while everyone was enthusiastic about the internet at first, more and more people are seeking ways to regain control as they realize it's not always in their favor. Things ranges from download tax to country wide firewalls to shutting down websites or seizing domain names. Welcome in 2012
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                • Markul
                  Likes Pie
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 12403

                  #9
                  Originally posted by u-Bob
                  Yes, as I explained in OP the staff at one of the ISPs that updated their list first caught the problem and this way they prevented the problem from spreading to other ISPs.
                  Yea I remember having a laugh at the office, we weren't affected. Amateurs.
                  But.... I pulled out...

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                  • MPGdevil
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 1210

                    #10
                    Shit happens. At least they are very active and one of the leading countries when it comes to catch the real criminals.

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                    • u-Bob
                      there's no $$$ in porn
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 33063

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MPGdevil
                      Shit happens. At least they are very active and one of the leading countries when it comes to catch the real criminals.
                      http://ak-zensur.de/2010/09/looking-away.html

                      In 2010 AK Zensur thoroughly examined 167 internet domains that were blocked in Denmark and Sweden. Only three domains contained CP pictures, and two of those were found on the Danish CP list leaked to Wikileaks in 2008. This means that the websites had been on-line for more than two years, despite the fact that the Danish police had investigated the sites and put them on the Danish CP block list in 2008 or earlier. AK Zensur was able to take down the three CP websites by sending a few emails to the hosting providers. If the Danish police are just adding domains to the CP block list, without taking any further action, they are providing a "valuable" early-warning system to the organized crime organizations that are behind the distribution of CP content.

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                      • rowan
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Mar 2002
                        • 17393

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MPGdevil
                        Shit happens. At least they are very active and one of the leading countries when it comes to catch the real criminals.
                        How is blocking a site to prevent "consumers" accessing it catching a criminal? Blocking a CP site in one small country is not going to make one bit of difference to the children who are abused in order to create the content, nor does it do anything about the guys that distribute it...

                        Given that it's a discover-add model I would guess that there's a large number of sites which haven't been blocked, and of those that are blocked, they were probably online for months before anyone realised they existed.

                        It's a flawed model. Go after the root cause, rather than band-aiding over the result as soon as you become aware of it.

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