Another American Gun Success Story

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Texas Courthouse Shooting: Two Dead, Three Injured

This is the second courthouse shooting to happen in the past week. On March 7, a shooting outside the Tulsa County Courthouse in Oklahoma left one deputy and three others injured. A barefoot man went to the courthouse plaza and began shooting randomly.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-court...5#.T2Dr6BGPWT4

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Saw this today...

A 3-year-old boy fatally shot himself with a gun he found in a car while his family stopped for gas early Wednesday in Tacoma, police said. It was western Washington's third recent shooting by a child.

"It is incredible in light of the other ones," said Tacoma police Officer Naveed Benjamin. "You would think people would take more care, not less."

The Tacoma-area family had stopped for gas about 12:30 a.m. The father put his pistol under the seat and got out to pump gas while the mother went inside the convenience store, Benjamin said.

They left their son and their infant daughter in the car. The boy climbed out of his child seat, found the gun and shot himself in the head, police said. He was declared dead at a hospital. The girl was not injured.

Detectives questioned the parents and have called the shooting a tragic accident, Benjamin said. The father has a concealed weapons permit, and no charges are anticipated, he said.

Washington does not have a law specifically concerning child access to firearms.

The shooting follows the death of the 7-year-old daughter of a Marysville police officer in Stanwood on Saturday when a sibling found a gun and fired while the parents were out of their car. And on Feb. 22, an 8-year-old girl was critically wounded in a Bremerton classroom when a gun fired inside the backpack of a 9-year-old boy as he put it on a desk.

"It's another tragedy in a very short period of time," Benjamin said.

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It highlights the need for people to secure guns, he said.

"You can't predict what children are going to do," he said. "You need to unload and lock it up if you're not carrying it. ... It's really not that hard to practice firearm safety."

Twenty-seven states have some form of law to prevent child access to firearms, but Washington is not one of them. Such laws can include criminal penalties for adults who allow children to get their hands on guns, according to the San Francisco-based group Legal Community Against Violence.

State lawmakers considered a measure in the regular legislative session that ended Friday that would have required additional testing of gun locks and safes before the equipment is distributed to law enforcement officers for home use. The bill was prompted by the 2010 death of a Clark County deputy's 3-year-old son. The toddler took a gun from a department-issued safe, which the family insisted was faulty.

News of the latest shooting caused Washington Cease Fire Executive Director Gregory Roberts to groan, "Oh no."

"We think guns are dangerous, but they are not treated as dangerous by our society or by laws or by our regulations," he said. "We regard guns as some sort of sacred object that should not be subject to regulation."

The Seattle organization is currently running a campaign of ads on buses urging people to think twice about owning guns. People with guns in their home or car are more likely to injure or kill a family member or loved one than to use it against an intruder, he said.

"Unfortunately we've been saying the same thing over and over because we see the same thing happening over and over," Roberts said.

In Saturday's shooting, off-duty Marysville police Officer Derek Carlile had parked the family van near Stanwood City Hall, and he and his wife were out of the vehicle when one of their children found the loaded gun and fired. The shot hit 7-year-old Jenna Carlile, and the girl, the oldest of their four children, died Sunday at a Seattle hospital.

The 8-year-old Bremerton girl, Amina Kocer-Bowman, remained in serious condition at Harborview Medical Center in Seattle after nearly dying in the accidental shooting at Armin Jahr Elementary, where a classmate brought a handgun to class. Authorities believe the boy took the .45-caliber gun from the glove compartment of a car while visiting his mother and her boyfriend at their home. He lives with an uncle.

The 9-year-old pleaded guilty last week to reckless endangerment and was sentenced to probation and counseling. He is expected to testify against his mother, Jamie Lee Chaffin, and her boyfriend, Douglas L. Bauer, who were charged Tuesday with felony assault.

Chaffin and Bauer each could face up to five years in prison if convicted.

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[papill0n]

i dont care what any idiot says

who wants to live in a society where everyone carries weapons and its so easy to take a life or have yours taken

fuck that

[jimmycooper]

It's not like that where I live.

http://m.nypost.com/p/news/local/man...2UNhxkP36ZYAgJ

[GFED]

It's not like that where I live.

http://m.nypost.com/p/news/local/man...2UNhxkP36ZYAgJ

now that's a sad story...

[jimmycooper]

now that's a sad story...

Why's that sad? We don't like it when middle americans bring firearms into our city. Particularly Manhattan.

[papill0n]

Why's that sad? We don't like it when middle americans bring firearms into our city. Particularly Manhattan.

umm yeah but she went from one american state to another you wouldnt think that something that was perfectly fine in one state would get you locked down for years in another

[Rochard]

Pretty soon all of the courthouses will have it's own police force, and every judge his own security team.

[Sly]

umm yeah but she went from one american state to another you wouldnt think that something that was perfectly fine in one state would get you locked down for years in another

Every state has different laws. I don't think non-Americans, and even many Americans, appreciate how different each of the different regions of the country really are. I have lived in three different regions and each has been vastly different with very different laws.

[suesheboy]

Every state has different laws. I don't think non-Americans, and even many Americans, appreciate how different each of the different regions of the country really are. I have lived in three different regions and each has been vastly different with very different laws.

I live in 3 states and have a carry permit and the laws vary greatly state to state. What I do in FL can put me in jail in NC. I open carry in TN and NC and in Florida if I accidentally flash my piece or print I can be in big trouble.

[jimmycooper]

umm yeah but she went from one american state to another you wouldnt think that something that was perfectly fine in one state would get you locked down for years in another

Tennessee and New York might as well be two different countries. Especially NYC.

Every state has different laws. I don't think non-Americans, and even many Americans, appreciate how different each of the different regions of the country really are. I have lived in three different regions and each has been vastly different with very different laws.

So true. From a cultural standpoint, NYC has much more in common with a non-American city such as London than it does with anywhere in Tennessee.

This thread should be titled "Another Middle American Gun Success Story."

I'd even go so far as to say that NYC is much, much more culturally similar to Toronto or Montreal than Toronto or Montreal is to where PJ lives in Nunavot. I've never been to Toronto but have been to Montreal many times and seal clubbing did not seem to be very popular.

[Choker]

I live in 3 states and have a carry permit and the laws vary greatly state to state. What I do in FL can put me in jail in NC. I open carry in TN and NC and in Florida if I accidentally flash my piece or print I can be in big trouble.

Nah, Florida passed a amendment that excludes momentary accidental exposure of your gun. IE guy bends over to tie his shoes and his gun is visible he doesnt get charged. But if he flashes it on purpose to scare someone then yeah his ass goes to jail.

[DragonsGirls]

Why's that sad? We don't like it when middle americans bring firearms into our city. Particularly Manhattan.

Obviously it is much better to allow local punks carrying illegal guns to enter Manhattan...instead of middle Americans who are being polite, well-meaning, and actually tried to do the right thing to carry a gun into Manhattan.

I read that story and understand her technical guilt, but do not see any moral or intentional guilt on her part. I'd agree, that makes it a sad story, not a story of great police work.

On the other hand, we don't have that problem here in the Philippines. It is a "be nice or be dead" policy. You never know who has a gun....it could very well be the drunk jeepney driver who just cut you off on the road, so keep your mouth shut.

[jimmycooper]

Another sad story of gun violence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

Yeah, I think I also saw something about that on YouTube.

[GFED]

She's due back in court March 19th. Good luck to her. What a waste of time and money for her and the state.

[Tom_PM]

It's not like that where I live.

http://m.nypost.com/p/news/local/man...2UNhxkP36ZYAgJ

Great illustration why "zero tolerance" means zero common sense. Technically broke law, yes. Intent to break law, NO. SO clearly no. So absolutely no. Zero tolerance is a phrase that should never need to be used and I don't even blame 9/11 for it. It's just lazy and inhuman in cases like this. And overall, I'm FOR strict regulations, not bans, but regulations. But for the love of god, don't be pricks about it.
I also think the best memorial for 9/11 would have been to immediately reconstruct them to original specs, but whatever.

[AaronM]

In other news....

H.R. 822 is gaining some ground.

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=7158

[martinsc]

we live in a fucked up world in a fucked up time.....

[L-Pink]

Traveling safely thru areas with variable gun policies is all part of your "situational awareness" or lack there of.

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