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03-14-2012, 09:53 AM

Porn is now over. Or it will be very soon.
http://www.xbiz.com/news/145588

Arizona looking to deem porn as prostitution with mandatory jail/prison sentence.

Looks like NWO taking over very soon.
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03-14-2012, 10:11 AM

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03-14-2012, 10:26 AM

So now the AZ and the LA porn guys will be heading to LV.

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03-14-2012, 10:36 AM

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03-14-2012, 10:49 AM

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03-14-2012, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by Radical Bucks

Porn is now over. Or it will be very soon.
http://www.xbiz.com/news/145588

Arizona looking to deem porn as prostitution with mandatory jail/prison sentence.

Looks like NWO taking over very soon.

Good move

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03-14-2012, 10:54 AM

Arizona law defines prostitution as "engaging in or agreeing or offering to engage in sexual conduct under a fee arrangement with any person for money or any other valuable consideration," according to the report.

Solo stuff wouldn't violate the law..
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03-14-2012, 11:03 AM

The land of free my ass

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03-14-2012, 11:08 AM

Thats true, is a movie ticket a "valuable consideration"? How about dinner?

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03-14-2012, 11:12 AM

All pornographers? I'll just hang out here and wait for them, then...
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03-14-2012, 11:21 AM

you can go to jail for prostitution ?

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03-14-2012, 11:22 AM

How much porn is shot in New Hampshire?

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03-14-2012, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by xxxupdate

you can go to jail for prostitution ?

In the "land of free"? Yes, you can! LOL

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03-14-2012, 11:29 AM

I wonder what lazycash thinks of this???

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03-14-2012, 11:30 AM

That is the law in most States in the USA ...
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03-14-2012, 11:31 AM

probably because everyone from California moved there, now they dont want to be known as the new porn capital

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03-14-2012, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by StripperCash

Arizona law defines prostitution as "engaging in or agreeing or offering to engage in sexual conduct under a fee arrangement with any person for money or any other valuable consideration," according to the report.

Solo stuff wouldn't violate the law..

Wrong.....

"Montgomery said the state law would prevent the establishment of a "pornography industry" to any degree."

Time to rethink the term solo when it means any pornography and sexual situations or acts... to ANY degree.
Solo masturbation is a sexual act. Therefor you will be prosecuted for these violations in Arizona. Its also in the works that porn will be soon be human trafficking.

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03-14-2012, 03:17 PM

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03-14-2012, 03:23 PM

The lawyer said in an official statement, "Furthermore, anyone involved in other aspects of producing pornographic movies, including soliciting individuals to appear, collecting a fee from the monies received by individuals solicited to appear by virtue of an agent relationship, transporting individuals from California to Arizona for the purpose of appearing in a pornographic movie, and/or establishing a venue for the filming and/or production of pornographic movies may be guilty of committing one or several felonies in the state of Arizona."

This means if a porn company pays for flights to and from anywhere in the US to perform in a pornographic performance is guilty of felonies. Also clearly states if you solicit to anyone from Arizona is guilty just the same, meaning not even having shot the the content yet. Arizona convicts just on the conspiracy to commit and which carries more time than the actual act itself.

Adult Talent Agents will be prosecuted as well. meaning Arizona will go after Derek of LADirect direct if he sends a model to Arizona for a sexual performance for money.

As case law: Max Hardcore sat in his California home while FLA decided to convict him for the violations in FLA.

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03-14-2012, 03:28 PM

I wonder if any of this has to do with that guy getting busted for trying to shoot underage girls a few months back.
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03-14-2012, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by sicone

I wonder if any of this has to do with that guy getting busted for trying to shoot underage girls a few months back.

Most likely has much to do with it just as well.

Just look at the harm that guy and BRCC has caused in the state of Arizona.
Girls getting kicked out of college, under age crimes and more.

Arizona will slam them and do everything to keep the porn industry out.

So yes, when creeps like that commit these offenses, everyone in the industry is labeled and targeted the same way.
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03-14-2012, 03:37 PM

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So yes, when creeps like that commit these offenses, everyone in the industry is labeled and targeted the same way.

So ridiculous. Lets ban alcohol and cars because some people can't use them correctly.

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03-14-2012, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by Radical Bucks

Porn is now over. Or it will be very soon.
http://www.xbiz.com/news/145588

Arizona looking to deem porn as prostitution with mandatory jail/prison sentence.

Looks like NWO taking over very soon.

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03-14-2012, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by Jakez

So ridiculous. Lets ban alcohol and cars because some people can't use them correctly.

Are you saying that it is ridiculous and comparing CP to alcohol use?
Be careful what you say next.
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03-14-2012, 04:09 PM

Where are the GFY Republicans here to chime in how they love their GOP?

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03-14-2012, 04:09 PM

Phoenix Forum may be interesting.
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03-14-2012, 04:20 PM

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03-14-2012, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by StripperCash

Arizona law defines prostitution as "engaging in or agreeing or offering to engage in sexual conduct under a fee arrangement with any person for money or any other valuable consideration," according to the report.

I guess then marriage will soon be illegal in Arizona.
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03-14-2012, 07:07 PM

Who was it that said this would not happen under Obama as President?

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03-14-2012, 07:10 PM

So basically, in order to shoot porn in AZ, you would need to find girls who aren't in it for the money. No problem there.. I've shot a few like that, though they're few and far between. But then the model release would be invalid "for good and valuable consideration"
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03-14-2012, 07:15 PM

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03-14-2012, 07:41 PM

But Can He Walk the Walk?

Tough talk isn't ever hard during an election year.

If he's going to actually get any convictions, he's got to convince the Arizona judges to turn around and change their reasoning.

In the Taylor case from 1990, they had no problems with the California cases that hold that the activity essential to making explicit videos is not prostitution. Taylor was a peep show dancer and the court said that her conduct was miles away from what the California Supreme Court protected in Freeman.

Read the cases for yourself. They are all here. http://www.xxxlaw.com/articles/porno....and.porn.html

It's the best indication we have of how Arizona judges would rule. I think this prosecutor has an uphill battle whether he knows it or not.

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03-14-2012, 07:42 PM

I would never live in that shitty state. I always have to force myself to go to the show. That town sucks balls.

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03-14-2012, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by Joe Obenberger

Tough talk isn't ever hard during an election year.

If he's going to actually get any convictions, he's got to convince the Arizona judges to turn around and change their reasoning.

In the Taylor case from 1990, they had no problems with the California cases that hold that the activity essential to making explicit videos is not prostitution. Taylor was a peep show dancer and the court said that her conduct was miles away from what the California Supreme Court protected in Freeman.

Read the cases for yourself. They are all here. http://www.xxxlaw.com/articles/porno....and.porn.html

It's the best indication we have of how Arizona judges would rule. I think this prosecutor has an uphill battle whether he knows it or not.

They might not be able to win a conviction, but they sure can make life hell. Constant raids, computer and content seizures, etc.

So again, I wonder if this is something they'd pursue if you were caught in the act, or if all it would take is finding a video on the internet and issuing a warrant based on that.
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03-14-2012, 08:19 PM

Just think about what he risks politically if, after all that inflammatory language, he loses the case on First Amendment grounds - and how he'll be labeled as the prosecutor who hung up the Welcome Sign for porn by taking an unnecessary case to court.

If he has any common sense, he won't direct any arrests or take any such case to court unless he's got something else in the case that's a slam dunk, guns, drugs, underage, off camera criminal misbehavior, or the like. It would not surprise me if he's on the prowl for something like that now. I think he wants to scare the porn industry away, endear himself to the moral right, but take as few chances as possible in an election year. It's always possible that someone's recklessness might hand him those things on a silver platter.

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03-14-2012, 09:15 PM

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So basically, in order to shoot porn in AZ, you would need to find girls who aren't in it for the money. No problem there.. I've shot a few like that, though they're few and far between. But then the model release would be invalid "for good and valuable consideration"

it would be easy to get around the money part. the talent can be paid for something else and shoot the video for "free" but it doesn't sound that simple according to the "establishing a venue for the filming and/or production" part.

"Furthermore, anyone involved in other aspects of producing pornographic movies, including soliciting individuals to appear, collecting a fee from the monies received by individuals solicited to appear by virtue of an agent relationship, transporting individuals from California to Arizona for the purpose of appearing in a pornographic movie, and/or establishing a venue for the filming and/or production of pornographic movies may be guilty of committing one or several felonies in the state of Arizona."

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03-14-2012, 09:18 PM

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03-14-2012, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by dgraves

it would be easy to get around the money part. the talent can be paid for something else and shoot the video for "free" but it doesn't sound that simple according to the "establishing a venue for the filming and/or production" part.

"Furthermore, anyone involved in other aspects of producing pornographic movies, including soliciting individuals to appear, collecting a fee from the monies received by individuals solicited to appear by virtue of an agent relationship, transporting individuals from California to Arizona for the purpose of appearing in a pornographic movie, and/or establishing a venue for the filming and/or production of pornographic movies may be guilty of committing one or several felonies in the state of Arizona."

The trick of paying for something legal to get around the prostitution statutes has been tried. When it goes to court, it doesn't work anywhere. For example, the DeBartolo case discussed and linked here, and the Texas cases it cites. http://www.xxxlaw.com/state-laws/prost-primer.html

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03-14-2012, 10:33 PM

Joe, you do not know how Arizona operates. Arizona's conviction rates is 98.9% positive.
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03-14-2012, 11:09 PM

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03-14-2012, 11:38 PM

Just wondering. Is anyone concerned about AZ law enforcement hanging around the Phoenix Forum?
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03-15-2012, 01:01 AM

Originally posted by Radical Bucks

Are you saying that it is ridiculous and comparing CP to alcohol use?
Be careful what you say next.

Whatever you're implying isn't what I meant. I'm saying if a person, who may be a pornographer, chooses to abuse children, they shouldn't be made an example for all pornographers. Just as someone drinking shouldn't be seen as a drunk driver.

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03-15-2012, 04:27 AM

"Under Arizona law, anyone paid to appear in a pornographic movie may be guilty of the crime of prostitution, which carries mandatory jail time as well as the possibility of other penalties," Montgomery said.

Arizona law defines prostitution as "engaging in or agreeing or offering to engage in sexual conduct under a fee arrangement with any person for money or any other valuable consideration," according to the report.

Montgomery made it clear the welcome mat is not out for porn in the Grand Canyon State.

The lawyer said in an official statement, "Furthermore, anyone involved in other aspects of producing pornographic movies, including soliciting individuals to appear, collecting a fee from the monies received by individuals solicited to appear by virtue of an agent relationship, transporting individuals from California to Arizona for the purpose of appearing in a pornographic movie, and/or establishing a venue for the filming and/or production of pornographic movies may be guilty of committing one or several felonies in the state of Arizona."

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03-15-2012, 04:31 AM

i dont think this will go the distance.
too many lawmakers love porn.

if it does go the distance though...how does this fair for CCbill?

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03-15-2012, 04:50 AM

>> collecting a fee from the monies received by individuals

isn't ccbill located in Phoenix?

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03-15-2012, 04:58 AM

Originally posted by Phoenix

if it does go the distance though...how does this fair for CCbill?

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>> collecting a fee from the monies received by individuals

isn't ccbill located in Phoenix?

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03-15-2012, 05:42 AM

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