The new Sara Swirls Site!

Not true. The owner can send the $ to Sliiing and then Sliiing will make the payouts.

Sounds crazy but true.

Nice work...

every site that i had promoted moved to sliing no more sales

and recently a website moved there and a week later moved out when i asked why they did that[moved out] they babbled but i think they realized they would loose a lot of affiliates

Sliiing is very unclear for affiliates. IMHO it is ideal system for shaving.

Oh I don't use Sliiing and honestly that was one of the reasons. The rep said we could send the affiliate money to Sliing and then Sliiing would pay it out to affs. I thought that was so bizarre. There's no way I'm wiring money to some guy/company in Germany so HE can wire my affs. WTF I would just do it myself. LOL So I never went any further with it.

Some people are happy with Sliiing tho.

Looks good! Best of luck with it.

what looks good, best of luck with what?.... a bitches site that leaks, tied to a program nobody trusts

Don?t worry, he simply makes posts. Poor guy trays make money on signature.

I think not! Sliiing was created BY an affiliate that wanted to create the best thing FOR affiliates from an affiliates perspective... Shaving is not part of it!

I think it's no problem to use sliiing and pay out affiliates yourself... Just like it is no problem to use for example Epoch and payout your affiliates yourself...

What i understand of it is that it's just an extra service... I too think it's a little detour but it is intended to relieve the program if wanted... For some (smaller programs) it's just less hassle to pay the whole affiliate amount to one party (sliiing) instead of paying hundreds? affiliates manually. We all know that a small program trying to walk away from a 3rd party biller is a huge headache. A small program (a program with no or little budget for employees) wanting to go the Merchant-account-route as a step to more control and further growth... i think it's only doable with sliiing.

That's just plain bullshit and here is why : 99% of my customers use Sliiing as affiliate program enhancer. This means that : affiliates still use CCBill's links, CCBill track the referrals and pay the affiliates. The fact that they use Sliiing or not doesn't change anything in the conversion ratio. It even gives you, as an affiliate, more chance to get your referrals tracked as there is a double tracking system. If Sliiing didn't catch it, CCBill does, if CCBill didn't catch it, Sliiing does.

If a site stops converting for you, maybe should you start asking yourself what YOU are doing wrong.


In 6 years, I have had 2 customers that tried Sliiing and stopped using it : 1 time because they did an error while installing. It was 6 years ago, the system was quite new and they lost trust in it. The second time was 1 month ago : The webmistress is new in the business and didn't expect a certain adaptation time, she got 1 complain from an affiliate and panicked. After 1 month of used, she cancelled. Was her decision founded? I don't think so but it is her business. That's it. All other customers are happy customers. And if they are not happy, I am more than glad to help them and enhance my script following their suggestions & requirements until they are satisfied.

Your sir, seem to be running a smear campaign against Sliiing. I have yet to understand why. In any cases, it is totally unfounded. If you have any issues with Sliiing, just message me privately and I will do my best to help you out.

Thank you sir and you are absolutely right: It is impossible for a sponsor to shave when using Sliiing.


And thanks again! You are 100% right. In 99% of the cases, Sliiing is used as affiliate program enhancer, meaning that CCBill (or Epoch, or Verotel) still tracks and pays the affiliates for all their referrals. I currently have only 2 customers that uses Sliiing as stand alone affiliate program. In this case, Sliiing alone is responsible to track the referrals and the sponsor pays the affiliate himself.

As extra service, if the sponsor needs it, we offer the payout services : Instead of sending payouts to 50 affiliates, he sends us 1 payment and we do pay the affiliates for him. The service is free and is only available to help the sponsors that need it. Again, no shaving is possible. Sliiing is running on our server and the sponsors do not have access to the db. They just can not shave no matter how they use Sliiing (as stand alone or program enhancer)

One last thing : We did everything we could to code a script that is easy to use and to understand. And we are updating the script every month following recommendations from our customers AND from the affiliates using our software. If ever you have any questions or are unsure about anything : Just ask me and I will do everything in my power to help you out.

Looks nice, hope you will have some extra xmas sales during the holidays

T minus 30 days until an off the wall rant about "Insert processor here" is shaving her sales, scrubbing good members, etc. etc. etc.

After the looniness on this board why anyone would process for this bat shit crazy bitch is beyond silly

Sara Swirls don’t use on join page not ccbill, not verotel. Affiliates won’t be payed not ccbill, not slling. So Sara is cheating bitch not only in privat life but in business. Why this site isn’t banned?

Where is SwirlsGirl these days?