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Vendzilla 03-13-2012 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by potter (Post 18821612)
Gallup is the only source for presidential approval rating. Anything else is either right wing or left wing biased and total bullshit. Gallup has his approval rating rising right now.

/thread

People on both sides believe it's biased, I just don't put that much faith in polls, period

Lucy - CSC 03-13-2012 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 18818765)
You realize that there is no difference between what Obama has done and what Bush has done right?

Hush now some of these people believe there is a left and a right in American politics and that they are different parties.

Rochard 03-13-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18819848)
Gas production is up, Gas consumption is down, Prices according to supply and demand are NOT right.

Sure they are - when we are threatening war with Iran every chance we get.

TheSquealer 03-13-2012 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18819848)
Gas production is up, Gas consumption is down, Prices according to supply and demand are NOT right.

Prices are up largely because of both actual current instability and the threat of future instability in the Middle East. A commodity is beholden to the markets and investor concerns. Not sure how you believe the President of the USA is manipulating domestic retail gas prices without the rest of the world seeing it. It's not like gas prices are up in the US and down across Europe... retail prices are up all over the world.

:2 cents:

Vendzilla 03-14-2012 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18821770)
Sure they are - when we are threatening war with Iran every chance we get.

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18821839)
Prices are up largely because of both actual current instability and the threat of future instability in the Middle East. A commodity is beholden to the markets and investor concerns. Not sure how you believe the President of the USA is manipulating domestic retail gas prices without the rest of the world seeing it. It's not like gas prices are up in the US and down across Europe... retail prices are up all over the world.

:2 cents:

Take your :2 cents: and use it to Google a little

The middle east has jack shit to do with oil prices, you've just been fed bull shit so long, you're starting to enjoy the flavor.

According to this,Crude Oil and Total Petroleum Imports Top 15 Countries, as of November 2010, the top source of crude oil for the US is…Canada. Followed by Mexico. Indeed, of the top 15 countries that import oil to the US, 51.33% of them are in North America. If we add the rest of the Americas, 60.04% comes from there. If you combined the imports of the “West” (i.e. Canada and European nations), you have 34.28%. All in all, the United States got over 75% of its crude oil from non Arab states in November of 2010

Often when you hear talk about oil, you would get the impression that the US got all of its oil from the Middle East. If anything, most of it comes from elsewhere. And the biggest exporter of oil to the US is Canada.

The reason european nations prices are different is they get their oil from different places.

TheSquealer 03-14-2012 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 18822402)
Take your :2 cents: and use it to Google a little

The middle east has jack shit to do with oil prices, you've just been fed bull shit so long, you're starting to enjoy the flavor.

According to this,Crude Oil and Total Petroleum Imports Top 15 Countries, as of November 2010, the top source of crude oil for the US is?Canada. Followed by Mexico. Indeed, of the top 15 countries that import oil to the US, 51.33% of them are in North America. If we add the rest of the Americas, 60.04% comes from there. If you combined the imports of the ?West? (i.e. Canada and European nations), you have 34.28%. All in all, the United States got over 75% of its crude oil from non Arab states in November of 2010

Often when you hear talk about oil, you would get the impression that the US got all of its oil from the Middle East. If anything, most of it comes from elsewhere. And the biggest exporter of oil to the US is Canada.

The reason european nations prices are different is they get their oil from different places.

Again, oil is a commodity and supply and demand is only one factor which determines prices. When gas prices went up in the US, they went up all over the world at the same time including major oil producing countries like Russia where retail gas prices doubled.

That simple fact alone shows how out of touch you are and how silly your argument is, given the fact that you went on to make the argument that everyone gets their oil from different sources as evidence that retail gas prices are not connected... uhm.. so obviously there is a common connection in the market beyond what Obama is allegedly manipulating.

As has always been the case, instability in oil producing countries and their regions, causes instability in the market and prices. Its not exactly a something new.

Just because the government tells me the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, doesn't make it not true.


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