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Old 03-08-2012, 10:19 AM   #1
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Amercians, damn we suck! Kony 2012

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2009 Oil find sparks new hope for Uganda's people
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...ergy-companies

2011 US President Barack Obama in October 2011 announced he was sending 100 special forces soldiers to Uganda to help track down Kony.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17295078

While there will be some truth in the Kony propaganda, no doubt the real agenda is Western control of oil; Invisible Children is the way they sell it to us
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2009 Oil find sparks new hope for Uganda's people
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...ergy-companies

2011 US President Barack Obama in October 2011 announced he was sending 100 special forces soldiers to Uganda to help track down Kony.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17295078

While there will be some truth in the Kony propaganda, no doubt the real agenda is Western control of oil; Invisible Children is the way they sell it to us
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It makes a lot more sense when you study the recent history of the region and what's been going on, not just Uganda, in particular the newly formed South Sudan.
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I watched the entire video while I worked on blogs. I read about it on the news this morning, and I can see why it's going viral.

This is what I've been telling people for years. Everyone is all concerned about what's happening in the Middle East while we completely ignore what's happening in Africa. What's happening in Uganda is just one of the problems.

For the US, our interests aren't in the Middle East. We get our fucking oil from Canada and Mexico. Fuck the Middle East. Future generations will judge us by our lack of inaction in Africa.
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That "charity" have an affiliate program? Those guys are making some $$$$ scamming gullible internet people.
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That "charity" have an affiliate program? Those guys are making some $$$$ scamming gullible internet people.
And what facts do you have to back up allegations? Do you not think this guy would be toast if that was true?
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Here's some interesting bits...

The James Bond film, Casino Royale... Remember the Guerrilla group that wanted to invest their money... That was the LRA, Kony's boys.

Seems that last year Rush Limbaugh denounced any action against the LRA being as they were "Christians". LOL.
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And what facts do you have to back up allegations? Do you not think this guy would be toast if that was true?
http://c2052482.r82.cf0.rackcdn.com/...pdf?1320205055

They seem to spend the vast majority of their funds on travel and filming expenses. That's fine I suppose but people should be aware that money they donate is most likely just going to making more slick Youtube videos than actually helping anything.
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Here's some interesting bits...

The James Bond film, Casino Royale... Remember the Guerrilla group that wanted to invest their money... That was the LRA, Kony's boys.

Seems that last year Rush Limbaugh denounced any action against the LRA being as they were "Christians". LOL.
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They seem to spend the vast majority of their funds on travel and filming expenses. That's fine I suppose but people should be aware that money they donate is most likely just going to making more slick Youtube videos than actually helping anything.
Why do you think they are spending money on these things? Let's think about this for a while.
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Why do you think they are spending money on these things? Let's think about this for a while.
It's your money, spend it however you want if you were planning to donate to them.

Myself I'm just a hardened skeptic and it takes a little more than an emotional, slick video to move me. I have no problem at all with the cause itself but there is a history in recent decades of charities supposedly going to aid causes in Africa that squander the money and do very little actual good. Live Aid comes to mind quickly.

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I love reading about shit like this. The Basque is a great example - Sir Lanka is another.
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The cause is good and those attempting to show them as scam artists only giving 20% I may remind you that's a great deal more than many organizations that are well known.

In the end whether you feel that someone else should be the target or not - he IS a target and even if one child is stolen and used either for army or prostitution I think it's worth the hassle to free them don't you if it was your kid?
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interfering in africa always causes more problems than it solves.
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someone should go read about the charity promoting this video.
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Saw the video yesterday and it's awesome. it's crazy how much attention it's getting. Even old ladies posting it on their Facebook page. Companies should hire this guy to make their activism videos.
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someone should go read the rebuttal to the charity promoting the video ;)

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Just think if Everyone got behind the problems in the USA.....
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From here http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/r...at-s-the-story

Ugandan journalist Angelo Izama was born in Kampala, Uganda and is currently a Knight Fellow at Stanford University. He specializes in security issues in Central Africa, and argues for a more nuanced and complex look at the region than the picture painted by Invisible Children.

Izama says there's a crucial natural resource angle that's being overlooked, pointing out that Uganda recently discovered "significant deposits of oil" near its border with the DRC. "This is the one game changer in the history of conflict in that region" Izama said. He said joint military operations are increasingly concentrated in the oil-rich area.

"One of my issues with Invisible Children is that by providing such a truncated vision, and an unreal one, of what's happening today in our area right now, they missed the opportunity to cast this in much more broader and much more significant terms."

Izama pointed out that the Ugandan military ? which the Obama administration legally committed itself to assisting one year after the oil discovery ? has been increasing its oil-related security operations.

"For Uganda to exploit oil on that border region, it has to run a very large security operation. Part of that includes securing the border against rebels groups including the LRA, the Allied Democratic Forces, Congolese militias and several other Sudanese and Congolese groups that are all operating in that area," he said. "LRA is actually a minority."

"Governments that are motivated by exploiting solely this resource can be pretty excessive in their choice of policies. I think that Invisible Children really lost that wonderful opportunity," Izama added. "The big story in Uganda is about the oil."

Izama believes Invisible Children was mistaken in "going back into history and casting this in terms of what happened five, six years ago, which is no longer the case."

"If they had taken the story to where it is now, which is DRC, I think that you could still raise the question of Kony's atrocities, which are still ongoing now, but also raise the important issues that come with that, including the fact that DRC is where in 90s six or seven armies fought. Those are resource wars."
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Izama says there's a crucial natural resource angle that's being overlooked, pointing out that Uganda recently discovered "significant deposits of oil" near its border with the DRC. "This is the one game changer in the history of conflict in that region" Izama said. He said joint military operations are increasingly concentrated in the oil-rich area.
So now suddenly there is oil there and we'll have to send troops so we can take it. You know, just like we did in Iraq. And Afghanistan.
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What a waste of resources, you are saying that a soveriegn country can't find and kill one man? So we have to step in? Wait I'm pretty sure that's what got us into trouble before, going into other countries and trying to help. Fuckem. Seems to me this over simplified problem and solution should be taken care of internally, that's why our government officials didn't want to bother before.
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it seem its the Ugandans that suck more than Americans. Misleading thread title
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So now suddenly there is oil there and we'll have to send troops so we can take it. You know, just like we did in Iraq. And Afghanistan.
With most of Africa it's far easier, but this Kony guy seems to be causing a nuisance, his techniques are effective. If necessary they could always create a new country where the oil is and put it under United Nations control, like they've just done with South Sudan, making the official language English. This viral video seems to be going well enough though
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So these bleeding heart activists are trying to raise millions of dollars for all of these programs to help the people of Uganda? Why not pay one of Kony's cronies(unintentional rhyme) to kill him? That would cost about 50 bucks and a carton of Marlboro smokes.
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What a waste of resources, you are saying that a soveriegn country can't find and kill one man? So we have to step in? .
That's the first thing that entered my mind. Someone knows where he is, so a bullet can find his skull and solve this "problem".
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