[Test] Paxum vs Redpass: ATM withdrawal comparison

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  • u-Bob
    there's no $$$ in porn
    • Jul 2005
    • 33063

    #1

    [Test] Paxum vs Redpass: ATM withdrawal comparison

    Step 1: Ordered a Redpass and Paxum Mastercard.
    Step 2: Rolled the dice to determine which card I should test first.
    Step 3: Drove to the bank.
    Step 4: Waited in line at the ATM.
    Step 5: Withdrew 50 euros using my new Redpass card.
    Step 6: Withdrew 50 euros using my new Paxum card.

    Here are the results:

    Redpass:


    Paxum:

    Comparison:
    Redpass fee: $ 3
    Paxum fee: $ 2

    Exchange rate used by Redpass: 1.3104 (50 euros cost me $ 65.52)
    Exchange rate used by Paxum: 1.3498 (50 Euros cost me $ 67.49)




    - Used my Paxum card immediately after I used my Redpass card. (I withdrew money using my Paxum card less than 1 minute after I used my Redpass card)
    - Used an ATM operated by BNP Paribas Fortis.
  • Klen
    • Aug 2006
    • 32235

    #2
    So redpass fee was less despise having higher atm fee?

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    • u-Bob
      there's no $$$ in porn
      • Jul 2005
      • 33063

      #3
      Originally posted by KlenTelaris
      So redpass fee was less despise having higher atm fee?
      yes, looks like it. The paxum atm fee was $2 and the redpass atm fee was $3, but the exchange rate used by redpass was more favorable.

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      • AdultEUhost
        ORLY?
        • Oct 2005
        • 2579

        #4
        for larger amounts the gain could be quite high with better currency rates, the $1 difference in fee doesn't really matter then.
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        • Klen
          • Aug 2006
          • 32235

          #5
          Well nice but almost nobody uses redpass of sponsors so no use of it so far.

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          • porno jew
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Nov 2006
            • 10166

            #6
            the last time i used paxum i took out 140 cad at the atm and in the the fees were close to $10.

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            • journalism
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2011
              • 395

              #7
              So let's move to redpasS?

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              • Freaky_Akula
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2005
                • 3670

                #8
                All most all programs that matter offer paxum. How many offer redpass?

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                • Chosen
                  • Aug 2001
                  • 63151

                  #9
                  When Paxum just started they've had pretty good exchange rates for foreign transactions.
                  Too bad things have changed. And this makes me think that the same may happen to RedPass as soon as they get enough cardholders...

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                  • seeandsee
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                    • Mar 2006
                    • 50945

                    #10
                    Why exchange rates are not centralized?
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                    • fuzebox
                      making it rain
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 22352

                      #11
                      withdrawing an amount that low on any atm card is a waste

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                      • V_RocKs
                        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 32449

                        #12
                        Originally posted by fuzebox
                        withdrawing an amount that low on any atm card is a waste
                        Right... But his point is that if you withdrew $1000 you are looking at 10's of dollars difference in exchange rate.

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                        • AdultEUhost
                          ORLY?
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 2579

                          #13
                          Originally posted by seeandsee
                          Why exchange rates are not centralized?
                          because it is a great money maker for all financial institutions
                          especially companies like paypal make good money on this
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                          • Michael O
                            More Cowbell
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 10607

                            #14
                            Originally posted by seeandsee
                            Why exchange rates are not centralized?
                            The exchange rate for MasterCard is set for all cards based on the previous days bank rate. So its the same for everyone issuing MasterCards since MasterCard sets the rate.
                            If you check xe.net the rate on March 7th were 1.31

                            Issuing banks then have the option of adding a flat fee for for ATM transactions, a surcharge on exchange rate or a combination of both.

                            RedPass only charge a flat fee of $3 and have no surcharge on the exchange rate and do not plan on adding one.
                            Last edited by Michael O; 03-08-2012, 01:49 PM.
                            Truth Teller

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                            • Michael O
                              More Cowbell
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 10607

                              #15
                              Bump and if any company wants to do a deal that will save both you and your affiliates money let me know.
                              I will be in Phoenix and available on email 7 days a week. [email protected]
                              Truth Teller

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                              • KingNigel
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 1756

                                #16
                                Is it possible to fund a RedPass account with a mastercard? Is it possible to fund a RedPass account with a Paxum mastercard?
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                                • journalism
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2011
                                  • 395

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by KingNigel
                                  Is it possible to fund a RedPass account with a mastercard? Is it possible to fund a RedPass account with a Paxum mastercard?
                                  Good question.

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                                  • Chosen
                                    • Aug 2001
                                    • 63151

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by KingNigel
                                    Is it possible to fund a RedPass account with a mastercard? Is it possible to fund a RedPass account with a Paxum mastercard?
                                    I seriously doubt it

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                                    • martinsc
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jun 2005
                                      • 27047

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by AdultEUhost
                                      because it is a great money maker for all financial institutions
                                      especially companies like paypal make good money on this
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                                      • porn500
                                        Registered User
                                        • Oct 2011
                                        • 94

                                        #20
                                        Wow, amazing.

                                        So PAXUM lies in several threads stating that there is NO MARKUP fee what so ever.

                                        I really hope more programs will offer red pass after this...
                                        Jacob
                                        Program Manager

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                                        • signupdamnit
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2007
                                          • 6697

                                          #21
                                          I don't think much of either one. It's just not useful for your average US or Canadian affiliate. Worse some sponsors seem to be making backroom deals to try to push affiliates into it. There's one in particular who used to offer free ACH. Well they stopped their free ACH and replaced it with some Payoneer based ACH solution and started sending out full color promos with the checks trying to get people to sign up for Payoneer. As if we're stupid and we don't realize what is going on. Why the hell should I pay an annual fee and all sorts of other transaction fees to some middle man to get MY money? It's almost like paying some homeless bum on the street to act as a middle man for you when you go make a withdrawal from your bank. It's stupid. I get why certain affiliates who don't have checks or ACH as a reasonable option might want it but for the rest of us it's useless. Then we also have Paypal already which usually works fine for sponsor payments.
                                          Last edited by signupdamnit; 03-09-2012, 09:07 AM.

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                                          • MrCain
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jun 2006
                                            • 3332

                                            #22
                                            Paxum had a huge head start. I doubt they'll loose it over this. How many Paxum users actually use the ATM card to withdraw their funds compared to those that withdraw their money using let's say wire transfers?
                                            Sigmund

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                                            • Chosen
                                              • Aug 2001
                                              • 63151

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by MrCain
                                              How many Paxum users actually use the ATM card to withdraw their funds compared to those that withdraw their money using let's say wire transfers?
                                              I don't get what you're trying to say...

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                                              • CaptainHowdy
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Dec 2004
                                                • 94733

                                                #24
                                                You're moving too fast for me ...

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                                                • MrCain
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jun 2006
                                                  • 3332

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Chosen
                                                  I don't get what you're trying to say...
                                                  I use my Paxum account to aggregate small payments from several programs. I then wire those funds to my bank account. I imagine most affiliates do the same unless they like to spend their time going to an ATM every day.
                                                  Sigmund

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                                                  • cherrylula
                                                    lol
                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                    • 15969

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Michael O
                                                    Bump and if any company wants to do a deal that will save both you and your affiliates money let me know.
                                                    I will be in Phoenix and available on email 7 days a week. [email protected]
                                                    Hey is the free card promo still going on? I need to do that.

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                                                    • Chosen
                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                      • 63151

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by MrCain
                                                      I use my Paxum account to aggregate small payments from several programs. I then wire those funds to my bank account. I imagine most affiliates do the same unless they like to spend their time going to an ATM every day.
                                                      I'm pretty confident that most affiliates withdraw money from ATM
                                                      Should we make a poll?

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                                                      • u-Bob
                                                        there's no $$$ in porn
                                                        • Jul 2005
                                                        • 33063

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Chosen
                                                        I'm pretty confident that most affiliates withdraw money from ATM
                                                        Should we make a poll?
                                                        done: http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1060608

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                                                        • Chosen
                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                          • 63151

                                                          #29
                                                          Voted

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                                                          • blofer80
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                            • 932

                                                            #30
                                                            I like redpass

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                                                            • Michael O
                                                              More Cowbell
                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 10607

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by KingNigel
                                                              Is it possible to fund a RedPass account with a mastercard? Is it possible to fund a RedPass account with a Paxum mastercard?
                                                              Sorry missed your question first time around.
                                                              We do not allow any credit card loads because of the risk involved, its not worth the headaches.
                                                              Truth Teller

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                                                              • OneWhoKnows
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Aug 2005
                                                                • 873

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Michael O
                                                                Sorry missed your question first time around.
                                                                We do not allow any credit card loads because of the risk involved, its not worth the headaches.
                                                                Good decision. See here for more info http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1061034

                                                                Sorry for the laughs btw, I know it's not funny for the EnjoyBucks owner who got $12k taken off his Paxum account because some guy 3 or more steps up the ladder was a carder and Paxum passed it on to the very last part of the chain.

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                                                                • CaptainHowdy
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                  • 94733

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I love my empty Paxum account ...

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                                                                  • Nicolas
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                                    • 1497

                                                                    #34
                                                                    So who offers redpass payouts?


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                                                                    • OneWhoKnows
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Aug 2005
                                                                      • 873

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Nicolas
                                                                      So who offers redpass payouts?
                                                                      So far:

                                                                      Serious Cash
                                                                      WTF Bucks

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