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Old 02-08-2003, 01:33 AM   #1
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TGP's

I am thinking of making a TGP (hey, we only have about 10 million of them, lol)

What do I need to start it up?
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Old 02-08-2003, 01:41 AM   #2
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Old 02-08-2003, 01:44 AM   #3
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I am thinking of making a TGP (hey, we only have about 10 million of them, lol)

What do I need to start it up?
Lot's of time to waste.....thats what you need......

Like soul said...."Please dont"
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Old 02-08-2003, 01:48 AM   #4
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bakit? I do nto have plans to be all super large or really compete with anybody. Just bring in a few bucks -- nothing major.

Just wanna see what the fuss is over, nothing special.
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Old 02-08-2003, 01:54 AM   #5
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Old 02-08-2003, 01:56 AM   #6
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I am thinking of making a TGP (hey, we only have about 10 million of them, lol)

What do I need to start it up?
Why are you starting one if you have no idea what they require to run?
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Old 02-08-2003, 02:03 AM   #7
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Why are you starting one if you have no idea what they require to run?
See my post above as to why. But I figure I would see what they required and then go from there. I have plenty of time - thats nto an issue. I figure hosting costs would be low - no real hosted pictures and such. So even a ton of hits would not mean that much bandwidth.

Like I said - nothing major. I am not looking to be the next Hun or anything, just a small time thing.
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Old 02-08-2003, 02:06 AM   #8
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See my post above as to why. But I figure I would see what they required and then go from there. I have plenty of time - thats nto an issue. I figure hosting costs would be low - no real hosted pictures and such. So even a ton of hits would not mean that much bandwidth.

Like I said - nothing major. I am not looking to be the next Hun or anything, just a small time thing.
spend time collecting bottles your worhtless!

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Old 02-08-2003, 02:07 AM   #9
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Why are you starting one if you have no idea what they require to run?
If that rule applied to the adult internet there would not be 10% of the people here.

People put things up, they learn fast or go out of business.
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Old 02-08-2003, 02:11 AM   #10
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spend time collecting bottles your worhtless!

thats not what my mommy says

lol, but really. I promote a few sites and all that, do pretty good. But I figure there is thousands of TGPs for a reason.. I mean if they did not make money then why is there so many of them?
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thats not what my mommy says

lol, but really. I promote a few sites and all that, do pretty good. But I figure there is thousands of TGPs for a reason.. I mean if they did not make money then why is there so many of them?
Becasue its mad trendy to make -.03 cents a day.
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Old 02-08-2003, 02:16 AM   #12
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But I figure there is thousands of TGPs for a reason.. I mean if they did not make money then why is there so many of them?
I've seen that posted soooo many times adn every time it cracks me up.

Take a very deep breath, sit down, think about it and the answer to why that is so very wrong should eventually come to you.



Flipping burgers at McD's will make you ten times the amount per hour than starting a new TGP with the knowledge you have does. However looks like you're one of those who'll have to try it before you believe it
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Old 02-08-2003, 02:40 AM   #13
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Flipping burgers at McD's will make you ten times the amount per hour than starting a new TGP with the knowledge you have does. However looks like you're one of those who'll have to try it before you believe it
Maybe, maybe not. But does everybody have all the knowledge when they first started their TGPs? Or their paysites? I doubt it. Every single person on this board was at the point I am at now, and some still are. All I am doing is looking for that knowledge.. is there something wrong with it?

Just looking for some pointers, that all.
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Old 02-08-2003, 02:48 AM   #14
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Maybe, maybe not. But does everybody have all the knowledge when they first started their TGPs? Or their paysites? I doubt it. Every single person on this board was at the point I am at now, and some still are. All I am doing is looking for that knowledge.. is there something wrong with it?

Just looking for some pointers, that all.
Then try it and find out. Like I say you haven't the sense to believe it until you try and fail so best you do so and get it out of your system. More advice you probably wont take - GFY isn't the best place to ask very basic newbie questions.

"Maybe, maybe not?" There's no question about it fool. Again, go try it and see. It has fuck all to do with having all the knowledge and totally to do with the fact you will make no or VERY little money for a very, very long time (if ever) by doing it, just like every other idiot newbie who thinks the streets of porn really are lined with gold.

WTF though. I gain nothing by telling you this and am not going to get into a pisssing match with yet another newbie who hasn't the sense to take good advice when given. Have fun losing money, I'll leave you to it.
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Old 02-08-2003, 02:57 AM   #15
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Make a TGP2 site along with it that way you can get double frustrated!

Might as well start up a link list too!

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Old 02-08-2003, 03:07 AM   #16
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No every single person on this board was not at the point that you are now.

Some decided to launch TGPs at a point when the TGP market was not as oversaturated as it is now.

Some decided to launch TGPs when they had more experience than you do now. Some decided to do it when they controlled more traffic than you probably do.

The bottom line is that now the TGP market is so oversaturated that half of them could disappear over night and no-one would miss them.

So please - don't do it.

But if you choose to then just remember that we all tried to tell you not to.
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Old 02-08-2003, 04:05 AM   #17
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Is it really that bad?

What does the average TGP bring in?
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Old 02-08-2003, 04:08 AM   #18
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i'd say it'd be pretty damn hard to "average" tgp income
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I am currently buying TGP sites. If anybody wants to part with their TGP sites then email me with the following details:

domain name
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Do not factor in such things as software as all I want are domains/designs.
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Old 02-08-2003, 06:25 AM   #20
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Then try it and find out. Like I say you haven't the sense to believe it until you try and fail so best you do so and get it out of your system. More advice you probably wont take - GFY isn't the best place to ask very basic newbie questions.

"Maybe, maybe not?" There's no question about it fool. Again, go try it and see. It has fuck all to do with having all the knowledge and totally to do with the fact you will make no or VERY little money for a very, very long time (if ever) by doing it, just like every other idiot newbie who thinks the streets of porn really are lined with gold.

WTF though. I gain nothing by telling you this and am not going to get into a pisssing match with yet another newbie who hasn't the sense to take good advice when given. Have fun losing money, I'll leave you to it.
Foolio, read my sig. I was fortunate enough to start my adult biz before I ever visited a board like this. I didn't have anyone to talk shit and tell me I wouldn't make money for a long, long time. I made money my first day in the business.

No a TGP is not a very good way to get in the biz but it's bullshit to think you can't make money. I jumped in, and tried shit till it worked. I do that with any business. COMMON FUCKING SENSE. If you don't make any money fix it. If you don't get traffic fix it.

I don't do TGP so I can't give you any pointers aside from don't listen to this It'll never work bullshit. If you have any damn sense at all nothing about this business is hard. Just learn as you go. You'll be ok.
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Foolio, read my sig. I was fortunate enough to start my adult biz before I ever visited a board like this. I didn't have anyone to talk shit and tell me I wouldn't make money for a long, long time. I made money my first day in the business.

No a TGP is not a very good way to get in the biz but it's bullshit to think you can't make money. I jumped in, and tried shit till it worked. I do that with any business. COMMON FUCKING SENSE. If you don't make any money fix it. If you don't get traffic fix it.

I don't do TGP so I can't give you any pointers aside from don't listen to this It'll never work bullshit. If you have any damn sense at all nothing about this business is hard. Just learn as you go. You'll be ok.
Very well said. You'll find a lot of people on this board saying "Dont do this, dont do that" because it conflicts with what they're doing.
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Very well said. You'll find a lot of people on this board saying "Dont do this, dont do that" because it conflicts with what they're doing.
Yea, I'm sure some just don't want anyone competing at all, and some are just selfish, but I really think some of these people are just completely retarded.
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hit me up via email, I will help you with what little knowledge I have with TGP's.

But since I make money of the ones I do have, and off of very limited traffic. I will share.

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Maybe FOOL-io is just taking the piss?
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Foolio, read my sig. I was fortunate enough to start my adult biz before I ever visited a board like this. I didn't have anyone to talk shit and tell me I wouldn't make money for a long, long time. I made money my first day in the business.

No a TGP is not a very good way to get in the biz but it's bullshit to think you can't make money. I jumped in, and tried shit till it worked. I do that with any business. COMMON FUCKING SENSE. If you don't make any money fix it. If you don't get traffic fix it.

I don't do TGP so I can't give you any pointers aside from don't listen to this It'll never work bullshit. If you have any damn sense at all nothing about this business is hard. Just learn as you go. You'll be ok.
Why quote me? I never said he wont make money in this business. I said he wont make money from a TGP and then you start harping on about bullshit. Learn to read and grasp the basic ideas put forward in a post and you may find you wont need to make a prat of yourslef by quoting stuff out of context. Seems to be the only bullshit here is the pointless drivel you seem to spout.
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Maybe FOOL-io is just taking the piss?
I was wondering the same. It's been fun though
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Very well said. You'll find a lot of people on this board saying "Dont do this, dont do that" because it conflicts with what they're doing.
Yes, very well said stocktrader23. And I agree notjoe. I figure there is a reason some of these peep are trying to get me not to do it so hard. But if thats their honest thoughts then cool. But whats the need to try to tell peep they are stupid for wanting to try something.

I am not trying to 'break into the biz' as I have been in the biz for some time now, just different aspects of it. I figure it like this, when I submit my stuff to a TGP I have a 1 in 50 chance of getting clicked on (or 1 in however many updates they have for the day). So if I start my own TGP I can stuff it with my already made pages. The only actuall work I would have to do on the already made pages is to throw my TGP banner in there as well. And I would put as much or little effort into it as I think I need to make. The experience and knowing how it works is worth something.

But the cost of running a TGP would have to be low - you host very little amount of pics - just a few banners and stuff -- nothing major. Text uses very little bandwidth. So its what? $8 to reister domain and $100 or so for a year of hosting (remember I am not aiming to be larger than life here). And I am not trying to pay rent with the TGP - so if it does not make loads of cash - so what? I have tons of free time so thats not an issue. But if I do not try how would I know? How would you know its not worth it?


And to 'The Other Steve' who said "No every single person on this board was not at the point that you are now. " you are full of shit. You are trying to tell me some people were born with the the knowledge of how to make TGP's? Fuck off - I said " But does everybody have all the knowledge when they first started their TGPs? " So fuck off dude, read what I fucking posted. There was a point when the HUN had no fucking idea what to do, what is so hard to understand about that? And why hate on me? What do you gain from it?

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Maintaining and updating a quality TGP takes a lot of time and effort. At this point in time, there are so many of them that it is not really worth that effort, if you're new to the tgp/trading biz and still have a lot to learn.

A better option would be to find something original, and try to be large in that. The Hun didn't become what he is today by doing what everyone else did, and neither will you.
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Why quote me? I never said he wont make money in this business. I said he wont make money from a TGP and then you start harping on about bullshit. Learn to read and grasp the basic ideas put forward in a post and you may find you wont need to make a prat of yourslef by quoting stuff out of context. Seems to be the only bullshit here is the pointless drivel you seem to spout.
Do you have short attention span or something? I quoted you because you were the main one telling him he won't make money just because he doesn't enought knowledge on TGP's. I wouldn't want the knowledge most TGP owners here have being that most of them don't make money. Here are a couple of your statements to that effect.


"Flipping burgers at McD's will make you ten times the amount per hour than starting a new TGP with the knowledge you have does. However looks like you're one of those who'll have to try it before you believe it "

How would you know? He may be one of the few people that have more common sense and business sense than a stick. Yea, most people don't make money at a TGP but most people don't make money in any biz they do on their own simply because they don't have the mind for it. If I decided to start a TGP today I guarantee you I wouldn't be waiting a long time to make Burger King wages at it. I would fix the fucker and make some cash. Simple as that.

"Then try it and find out. Like I say you haven't the sense to believe it until you try and fail so best you do so and get it out of your system. More advice you probably wont take - GFY isn't the best place to ask very basic newbie questions. "

Could it be he doesn't have the sense to listen to the "that won't work" attitude of you and 90% of this board. Just because you can't handle it doesn't mean nobody can. If you are good with business you can make pretty much anything work. A TGP can be run to make a profit from the start. Not saying someone with no knowledge knows how to do that but someone with common sense can figure out what needs to change pretty fast.

About GFY not being the best place to ask, it is the best place to ask. Yes, you have to deal with 20 assholes when you post a question but one or two serious responses help alot. As you can see someone answered and offered help. Someone that is making a profit on a TGP. But that can't be possible from what you seem to think.

"There's no question about it fool. Again, go try it and see. It has fuck all to do with having all the knowledge and totally to do with the fact you will make no or VERY little money for a very, very long time (if ever) by doing it, just like every other idiot newbie who thinks the streets of porn really are lined with gold.
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No question about it eh? Are you that ignorant? Has all the fuck to do with the knowledge? It doesn't have to have shit do do with TGP knowledge. You can easily ask questions and read message boards and the likes to find out all you would ever need to know about TGP's and how they work. What you do have to have is some sense in your fucking head to start with. Asking people that currently run them is one of the most obvious things to do but you seem to think that simply by asking you don't have the knowledge to do it. Like I said, I got in the adult business after checking out an affiliate site. I made money the same fucking day. Didn't need to know squat about how to get traffic blah blah blah. I tried something, when it didn't work I corrected it. Once again COMMON SENSE. And if you haven't noticed by now that the streets of porn are really lined with gold you are in the wrong business.


"WTF though. I gain nothing by telling you this and am not going to get into a pisssing match with yet another newbie who hasn't the sense to take good advice when given. Have fun losing money, I'll leave you to it."

Then why open your mouth? He asked for some pointers which some people will be glad to give him. Pointers on starting a TGP. Not pointers on what not do do. He didn't ask for people to tell him we wouldn't make money and even said that may be so. You assume he won't make anything and you may or may not be right.
But talking shit for asking a question is something I doubt he was looking for.

Which brings us back to your last post.

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Why quote me? I never said he wont make money in this business. I said he wont make money from a TGP and then you start harping on about bullshit. Learn to read and grasp the basic ideas put forward in a post and you may find you wont need to make a prat of yourslef by quoting stuff out of context. Seems to be the only bullshit here is the pointless drivel you seem to spout.
Lemme break it down.

1) I quoted you because you were the one talking shit.
2) You did say he wouldn't make money in this biz. He doesn't have the "knowledge".
3) I do grasp the basic ideas put forward. Your idea is he won't make money in TGP. How the fuck would you know. If you still don't think your posts looked to be saying he wouldn't make money in this biz in any way I'm sorry you have the comprehension of a 3rd grader.
4) Pointless drivel is something you shouldn't be speaking about.


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Foolio - you asked for peoples opinions and you got honest opinions from both sides.

It seems though that you really only wanted to hear one side so you dismiss people like Tipsy and me as "full of shit" and "haters".


Well that's your perogative to listen to whichever point of view you want but don't think for a moment that those of us who suggested that you might be making a mistake were full of shit or 'haters' or even trying to prevent another competitor from entering the TGP field because at least two of us were not.

I seriously do wish you well and be sure to come back here in 12 months and tell us all how you're going because it would be nice to hear a TGP success story for a change so I do hope you can prove us 'haters' wrong.
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