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mmm yeah!
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so this is how search engine traffic converts in porn today
![]() traffic sent to the site latinasextapes.com from mofoscash not even a single fucking $1 trial this shit is retarded. this is what it looks like across the board with several other sponsors too its not just mofos (sorry for puttin on blast but it is what it is). i don't even bother to check my porn stats anymore that is how pathetic it's gotten. shits weak son. i mean do you guys really still slang shit that converts at piss poor ratios like 1:20k or what? ![]() 100% targetted search engine traffic straight from google, yahoo, bing, whatever..... 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I need a beer
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Dog eat dog world out there bro.keep plugging away
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i agree. i could show you some stupid ratios from search traffic. got worse as the year progressed.
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mmm yeah!
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i mean are sponsors just so hard up for dough they shave all the sales and shit or what? is that really how bad this industry is right now? the tubes obviously play a huge part but god damn this is absurd. dating isn't any better and neither are cams considering they are plastered all over the tube sites. how the fuck do you guys make a living in this industry anymore? is it all illegally obtained traffic through various different social networks and mail or what? because thats the only places i've seen revenue coming from.
t minus 10 seconds before the trolling and ballers come in saying mcdonalds is hiring. i do aight but obviously this hasn't been my main source of income for some time now and it isn't hard to see why. |
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mmm yeah!
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even the fucking cams are free. any joe blow can hit up myfreecams.com cop a free show, bust a nut, and be out without droppin a dime. the dating game has obviously lost it's appeal but sales can be had here and there. still the frees to sales ratios have flown through the roof on those too.
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mmm yeah!
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i'm not new to the game i know what i'm doing i've made 100's of thousands from this shit. it's just not worth the effort anymore when it converts like dog shit. |
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mmm yeah!
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Let's do some business.
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mmm yeah!
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mmm yeah!
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as far as im concerned thats free fucking cam entertainment for many potential cam customers that will now never sign up for cams that actually do have affiliate programs.
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Let's do some business.
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i am always interested in the join hits.
you have 2000 or so. makes you wonder what stops those 2000 joining. is it they do not want to join? do they not have the means to join (ie credit cards)? are they from countries such as china who cannot buy?
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I should also add that using FHGs in any form lowers my conversion ratios significantly.. They're just utter crap designed to brand, be pretty and NOT to convert. Half the time you have to fucking hunt on them to find a damn link to the paysite.
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So Fucking Lame
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700 Submits and not one sale?
Even if it were the worst traffic in the world, some people wanted to join and 700 entered bogus credit card info or were declined without a single approval? I've seen lots of submits that didn't go through but you should have at least 7 to 10 sales based on the worst numbers I've seen... Until this very moment, I guess. |
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mmm yeah!
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Germany:0:412$0.00 Brazil:0:389$0.00 Turkey:0:384$0.00 United Kingdom:0:359$0.00 (those are uniques) majority of the traffic 90-95% is people who are able to buy shit |
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i don't use fhg's and i host all the content i promote
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Let's do some business.
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Me either, the one I linked to is the same setup. $1 per free (no email even) join or 20% revshare.
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So Fucking Banned
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Where is your traffic coming from? ALL U.S.? Or...? The submit to join is awfully high it seems. I asked a program about the same issue and was told all my join page hits, 90%, were Chinese mainland...
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The other thought is that mofoscash siters will be promoted by millions of sites, many inc tubes and have been promoted for years.
I think often we think we have the only sites, and that people have only used the web today. many of those going to your sit(s) may have been on lots of sites first, and may have already joined a mofoscash site. Thus your trying to sell somthing that has already been sold to them. its like selling ice-cream to somone walking into your shop with two bags full of tubs of ice-cream. but to be honest, why would anyone join these days? I go on xhamster each day these days, more than enough porn. in fact there is so much i do not bother with other tube sites. its like a few days ago i thought just for interest, lets see what midget porn there was. loads. i watched for fun. a few years ago i may have googles midget porn and ended up joining a site to see it. it makes me giggle when some webmasters post a lot of rubish such as 'people will want to join a site as its better quality than tubes'????? do not be sooo daft. one other thought is that the main paysite is often top in google anyway. so they probably get the sales without even having to split it with the affiliate.
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switch up sponsors. yeah mofos is hella oversaturated as is heavily promoted on manwin tubes.
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mmm yeah!
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shit dude i have a list of sponsors that are in the same boat. some better than others but overall dismal at best. i don't really care to discuss this any further i'm gonna crash and get some work done in the morning.
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good night.
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you should see my Kinky Dollars, How I Got Rich, and FYC ratios, now they are BAD.
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Porn and especially cams are too expensive and everyone is trying to draw from the same, shrinking pool of whales.
It's a like a casino with nothing but high roller tables and $50 slot machines wondering why the fuck they're bankrupt. |
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That many submits and no sales? Is it PPS?
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Some of the keywords you claim to rank for are not that generic, so if those specific keys are sending you a good amount of traffic I don't see why you shouldn't be making sales.
The clients we are working with always want to shoot for the saturated ranks that in reality don't convert as well as micro-niche, the few we convince about moving away from generic are very happy with the sales ratios. If you want me to take a peek at the site and the actual ranks key per key feel free to hit me up as I'm curious also now why you're not converting.
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At the begininng of month ,something happened. No sales here also. Suddenly, like thunder ,after last month conversion 1:813 .
People don't want to talk about it here, but when I personally speak with webmasters, they told me same. I know that some idiot will now come and say it it making record month, but that's shit because I' ve opened my eyes wide and from what I read here, most of people are complaining, directly or indirectly. Is it possible that industry simply died this month? I've looked into my previous years stats (nifty), and this month was never so bad. I don't need nifty, I feel it when I see my inbox without sales
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Google sends shit traffic to adult sites
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Over 700 submits and over 2,000 join hits. What makes you think it ISN'T converting? Have you tried a test signup or two?
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You know what. I'm just going to speak my mind and I don't give a shit what comes from it. You and other affiliates can't just be idiots. You've sent 13,000 unique hits from search engine traffic and you see over 700 submits and 2,000 join hits. What exactly do you think might be going on here? You need to watch your traffic more and when you see a sponsor who consistently doesn't perform you need to pull all your links and blacklist that company.
I suspect there are many players who just keep their affiliate programs up to see how much money they can take from poor affiliates don't know any better. Find some of the few sponsors left who need you and send them traffic. They are still out there. |
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Affiliate managers usually have a secret ability to convert sales retroactively. So talk to yours, maybe he'll convert a few for you.
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just like anything, you have to specialize to see the numbers work right.... the porn internet bubble has burst.
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ONe thing to consider now days is not just the content and getting it up and getting the traffic, its where are you sending it. Now more than ever you need to check the tours. Check the join pages look for whats being done with your traffic.
You also might want to consider some of the smaller sites with for this case, latina content.
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I suspect your best buddy pr0 can give you some helpful hints, he's still converting at 1:21 across the board.
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here's a thought... do you guys realize how general the term latina is? niche, niche, niche is all I can say... there are too many options for surfers now, you have to specialize and niche it down as much as possible.
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I recently had a sponsor hit me up and ask why I stopped sending traffic. I told him his competitor started converting better and his conversions suddenly went bad. Suddenly they were three times what they were the first six months and I was sending them traffic for free. Wouldn't you know it for the next two weeks after telling him that they converted like 1998 with the little traffic I was sending. Wisely I kept things the same to see what would happen and whether it would last. Wouldn't you know it no new sales for months with the same traffic. Gee I wonder what happened there?
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