Yeah let's make guns completely illegal and hand the gun market over to the black market, that will really create a safer place! <--- LOL
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So buying a bazooka or any other weapon should be as easy as buying a gun right? Am i right?It takes a person to pull the trigger. There are tons of responsible individuals who own firearms, and have grown up around firearms for generations. Without incident.
Let's not blame this on "easy access" to firearms. We all know the countries were it's illegal to own one, it's still not hard to get one. And if someone really wants to commit a crime using one, they WILL find it, whether it's illegal or not. It's just like a drug addict, just because it's illegal doesn't mean people don't do drugs or find them.
Making guns illegal, just like drugs, or other things for that matter - like prostitution. Will have an even more negative impact on those situations.Comment
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I think there are certain control policies that should be in place. Since there are many types of weapons this is not a black/white issue.
No, I don't think a Bazooka that you could fire from a distance and destroy half the school with is ok. And fully automatic weapons should have some more regulation.Comment
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Why? Bazookas don't kill?I think there are certain control policies that should be in place. Since there are many types of weapons this is not a black/white issue.
No, I don't think a Bazooka that you could fire from a distance and destroy half the school with is ok. And fully automatic weapons should have some more regulation.Comment
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How about less guns? God, this is getting ridiculous.
Why would holland have less gun violence? Because of less guns or less idiots?
You probably are gonna amaze me again with your answer.Last edited by Dirty F; 02-27-2012, 01:53 PM.Comment
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You are right, it's the person using it.
But when we're talking about a weapon that can do so much damage so quickly, and with more anonymity (hiding far off in the woods, where no one can see you and you can easily get away and never get caught)> this should be illegal.
With hand guns, etc. You usually have to be at closer range. Unless you are an excellent shot or trained sniper (which I'm sure most of the population is not.) Where there is accountability as we can see today the suspect was caught.
Again, this isn't a black and white issue. So quite treating it as such.Comment
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If it were tougher to get your hands on a gun, do you think the kid in this instance would have been able to do what he did?
I'm tipping you will dance around a bit and blame the way the wind was blowing on the day.TripleXPrint on Megan Fox
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Listen everyone.
We Americans are stupid animals that like guns and killing each other. Just think, the fewer Americans there are the easier it will be for the rest of the world to rise up and conquer the evil that is America.
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Ah but with a gun you can kill 15 people AND get caught so that makes having a gun ok. Thanks. Now it finally is all clear to me.You are right, it's the person using it.
But when we're talking about a weapon that can do so much damage so quickly, and with more anonymity (hiding far off in the woods, where no one can see you and you can easily get away and never get caught)> this should be illegal.
With hand guns, etc. You usually have to be at closer range. Unless you are an excellent shot or trained sniper (which I'm sure most of the population is not.) Where there is accountability as we can see today the suspect was caught.
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?Guns in America: National Survey on Private Ownership and Use of Firearms,? by the Clinton administration?s Justice Department shows that between 1.5 and 3 million people in the United States use a firearm to defend themselves and others from criminals each year."
Good trade off for the occasional idiot that shoots someone.
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Like i said i have no problems with Americans owning as much guns as they want.Listen everyone.
We Americans are stupid animals that like guns and killing each other. Just think, the fewer Americans there are the easier it will be for the rest of the world to rise up and conquer the evil that is America.
Sounds like a win for non-Americans. Recognize your victories!Last edited by Dirty F; 02-27-2012, 02:02 PM.Comment
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I wouldn't go that far, you do however have a very different view on gun ownership to most other first world countries.Listen everyone.
We Americans are stupid animals that like guns and killing each other. Just think, the fewer Americans there are the easier it will be for the rest of the world to rise up and conquer the evil that is America.
Sounds like a win for non-Americans. Recognize your victories!
Then in DJ's case a complete lack of understanding of the difference between 'quit' / 'quite' - 'where' / 'were'TripleXPrint on Megan Fox
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Since its usually poor and dumb people shooting other poor and dumb people, guns are ok. I'm not saying killing people is ok... but within the context of the greater good and survival of good genes, not a bad deal. Sometimes you have collateral damage, but people also get hit by buses and by lightening. Life is a crap shoot, but at least in some instances, probability and chance is weighted against bad genes.Last edited by TheSquealer; 02-27-2012, 02:01 PM..
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How come there is less gun violence in Holland than in the US? Would the fact there are less guns here have something to do with it??Guns in America: National Survey on Private Ownership and Use of Firearms,? by the Clinton administration?s Justice Department shows that between 1.5 and 3 million people in the United States use a firearm to defend themselves and others from criminals each year."
Good trade off for the occasional idiot that shoots someone.
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Non-Americans need to use their "lack of ignorance" that they are so proud of and try to understand why so many Americans believe guns are an essential right. Think of how our country was founded, how we became what we are, and what role guns played in that. Then add the basic human psychology of... you can't give people something and then take it away. Then recognize that this belief system has been ingrained in Americans for hundreds of years.
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I didn't say it's ok to commit crimes with them. I'm saying there is accountability. And just like you have to register, and they can be traced to owner, who bought them, etc.
Imagine if they are illegal and black market, there is no accountability. Seems like you are ok with that. And easier for person to get away.
If the black market took over, there would be more crimes with guns, more blood shed.Comment
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I've been all over the world and I would suggest that the biggest factor in levels of gun violence is cultural, not the presence or absence of guns or legality of gun ownership..
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Well isnt that odd. In Holland only criminals have guns and still there is WAY less gun violence. Jeesh, almost looks like you are talking right out of your ass! Who would've expected that from a dumb little piece o fshit who defended his credit card banging boss for months while lying straight into the face of all the affiliates who paid for your shitty job.I didn't say it's ok to commit crimes with them. I'm saying there is accountability. And just like you have to register, and they can be traced to owner, who bought them, etc.
Imagine if they are illegal and black market, there is no accountability. Seems like you are ok with that. And easier for person to get away.
If the black market took over, there would be more crimes with guns, more blood shed.Last edited by Dirty F; 02-27-2012, 02:08 PM.Comment
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Wait, are you the guy who pulled a gun on an old lady whilst walking your dog?Originally posted by JohnnyClipsLOL I knew it- the debate is on guns...just unreal how propagandized the public is. Its downright scary!TripleXPrint on Megan Fox
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You all seem to be suggesting that banning guns will solve a problem.
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Incorrect. What an odd distortion of the truth.
"There are about 80,000 people with a gun license in the Netherlands."
http://qsi.cc/blog/archives/000144.html
I dont think you even understand your own country and its gun use LOL
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yes they do. prohibitions against smoking have had a great effect.Comment
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Wah?Originally posted by JohnnyClipsIn order to ban guns you would need people with guns to ban the guns and that makes NO logical sense. Ergo you can't ban guns. Simple.
Gun amnesty. Simple.TripleXPrint on Megan Fox
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Do you keep missing the pretty pictures I post showing you're totally wrong?Originally posted by JohnnyClipsYou can't ban anything. Just because you make something "illegal" doesn't mean diddly squat. It only makes the issue or problem 10 times worse. Do we have any enlightened people here?Comment
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That's a terrible example. There has been a huge stigma around cigarettes for several decades now and also a huge education program that revolves around teaching people not to smoke.
The same would need to be done for guns and it would take many decades to make any impact at all. Not to mention, guns are not a consumable good. Cigarettes you buy, often daily (same with drugs and alcohol), guns you own for good. Gun owners are not getting rid of guns unless they want to get rid of them.Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted
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this article does it, and as it shows, Netherlands has its fair share of both violence and lots of licensed gun owners. And dont forget the huge amount of UNLICENSED gun owners. Article even says, by european standards getting a gun in netherlands, is easy...
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Well I've proven less guns = less people killed with guns. It's not really suggesting anything. It's demonstrable.
Yes, worldwide the war on drugs has failed. But in countries with strict gun control, MANY MANY less people per 100k get shot.
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Yes you dumbass i'm aware there is a group of people with guns in Holland other than criminals. Yes, i should've pointed that out but i highly doubt there is anybody here who doesn't understand that just like any other country we have gun clubs who practice shooting as a sport.Incorrect. What an odd distortion of the truth.
"There are about 80,000 people with a gun license in the Netherlands."
http://qsi.cc/blog/archives/000144.html
I dont think you even understand your own country and its gun use LOL
These aren't the gun owners as they as in the US. With a bunch of small guns within hand reach to "protect" their home.
They don't conceal them while going out. They don't have them with them in the car etc etc.
These are mostly people with rifles that only are used for sports once a week.
Still it doesn't change the fact that there are way less guns per 1000 people in Holland with results in way less gun violence. Something that is still really fucking hard to understand for hicks like you.Comment
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I'm too lazy to look. I mean that a culture that is more aggressive in nature, where major violence/violent crimes is more common is more likely to own guns and more likely to shoot people with them. Just like the USA... gun violence is largely limited to very shitty areas..
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tell me again WHY did you ask me to remove you off ignore when this is all you do?


"oh fletch ive been such a dick trolling you I do it for no reason and I know ive been a douche" basically your words... LOL
now you pissed because I actually discuss something with you and prove you wrong?
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