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  • D Ghost
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    • May 2006
    • 9820
    #151
    Yeah let's make guns completely illegal and hand the gun market over to the black market, that will really create a safer place! <--- LOL

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      • L-Pink
        working on my tan
        • Mar 2005
        • 39151
        #152
        Originally posted by DamianJ
        The laws that make guns hard to get hold of?
        The guns are already here. When the losers and occasional student idiot want to obtain one what's to stop them?

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          • Dirty F
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            • Jul 2001
            • 59204
            #153
            Originally posted by DJ The Kid
            It takes a person to pull the trigger. There are tons of responsible individuals who own firearms, and have grown up around firearms for generations. Without incident.

            Let's not blame this on "easy access" to firearms. We all know the countries were it's illegal to own one, it's still not hard to get one. And if someone really wants to commit a crime using one, they WILL find it, whether it's illegal or not. It's just like a drug addict, just because it's illegal doesn't mean people don't do drugs or find them.

            Making guns illegal, just like drugs, or other things for that matter - like prostitution. Will have an even more negative impact on those situations.
            So buying a bazooka or any other weapon should be as easy as buying a gun right? Am i right?

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              • porno jew
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                • Nov 2006
                • 10166
                #154
                Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                Yeah let's make guns completely illegal and hand the gun market over to the black market, that will really create a safer place! <--- LOL
                actually it would.

                LOL!

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                  • D Ghost
                    null
                    • May 2006
                    • 9820
                    #155
                    Originally posted by Dirty F
                    So buying a bazooka or any other weapon should be as easy as buying a gun right? Am i right?
                    I think there are certain control policies that should be in place. Since there are many types of weapons this is not a black/white issue.

                    No, I don't think a Bazooka that you could fire from a distance and destroy half the school with is ok. And fully automatic weapons should have some more regulation.

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                      • D Ghost
                        null
                        • May 2006
                        • 9820
                        #156
                        They've shown that guns deter robbers and muggings too. I think in areas where gun ownership is legal. There are less burglaries.


                        They don't want to possibly get shot.

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                          • L-Pink
                            working on my tan
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 39151
                            #157
                            Originally posted by Dirty F
                            So what's the answer? More guns = not more gun violence? Is that your answer? Is it impossible to be pro guns and still be in touch with reality or what?
                            The problem is criminals and the occasional weak minded idiot. I don't see how to stop either one.

                            .

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                              • Dirty F
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                                • Jul 2001
                                • 59204
                                #158
                                Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                I think there are certain control policies that should be in place. Since there are many types of weapons this is not a black/white issue.

                                No, I don't think a Bazooka that you could fire from a distance and destroy half the school with is ok. And fully automatic weapons should have some more regulation.
                                Why? Bazookas don't kill?

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                                  • Dirty F
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 59204
                                    #159
                                    Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                    Yeah let's make guns completely illegal and hand the gun market over to the black market, that will really create a safer place! <--- LOL
                                    Yes it would you dumbass.

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                                      • Dirty F
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                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 59204
                                        #160
                                        Originally posted by L-Pink
                                        The problem is criminals and the occasional weak minded idiot. I don't see how to stop either one.

                                        .
                                        How about less guns? God, this is getting ridiculous.
                                        Why would holland have less gun violence? Because of less guns or less idiots?
                                        You probably are gonna amaze me again with your answer.
                                        Last edited by Dirty F; 02-27-2012, 01:53 PM.

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                                          • D Ghost
                                            null
                                            • May 2006
                                            • 9820
                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by Dirty F
                                            Why? Bazookas don't kill?
                                            You are right, it's the person using it.

                                            But when we're talking about a weapon that can do so much damage so quickly, and with more anonymity (hiding far off in the woods, where no one can see you and you can easily get away and never get caught)> this should be illegal.

                                            With hand guns, etc. You usually have to be at closer range. Unless you are an excellent shot or trained sniper (which I'm sure most of the population is not.) Where there is accountability as we can see today the suspect was caught.


                                            Again, this isn't a black and white issue. So quite treating it as such.

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                                              • georgeyw
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                                                • Jul 2005
                                                • 9865
                                                #162
                                                Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                                Yeah let's make guns completely illegal and hand the gun market over to the black market, that will really create a safer place! <--- LOL
                                                If it were tougher to get your hands on a gun, do you think the kid in this instance would have been able to do what he did?

                                                I'm tipping you will dance around a bit and blame the way the wind was blowing on the day.
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                                                  • Sly
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                                                    • Sep 2004
                                                    • 31376
                                                    #163
                                                    Listen everyone.

                                                    We Americans are stupid animals that like guns and killing each other. Just think, the fewer Americans there are the easier it will be for the rest of the world to rise up and conquer the evil that is America.

                                                    Sounds like a win for non-Americans. Recognize your victories!
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                                                      • Dirty F
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                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                        • 59204
                                                        #164
                                                        Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                                        You are right, it's the person using it.

                                                        But when we're talking about a weapon that can do so much damage so quickly, and with more anonymity (hiding far off in the woods, where no one can see you and you can easily get away and never get caught)> this should be illegal.

                                                        With hand guns, etc. You usually have to be at closer range. Unless you are an excellent shot or trained sniper (which I'm sure most of the population is not.) Where there is accountability as we can see today the suspect was caught.


                                                        Again, this isn't a black and white issue. So quite treating it as such.
                                                        Ah but with a gun you can kill 15 people AND get caught so that makes having a gun ok. Thanks. Now it finally is all clear to me.

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                                                          • L-Pink
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                                                            • Mar 2005
                                                            • 39151
                                                            #165
                                                            ?Guns in America: National Survey on Private Ownership and Use of Firearms,? by the Clinton administration?s Justice Department shows that between 1.5 and 3 million people in the United States use a firearm to defend themselves and others from criminals each year."

                                                            Good trade off for the occasional idiot that shoots someone.

                                                            .

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                                                              • Dirty F
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                • 59204
                                                                #166
                                                                Originally posted by Sly
                                                                Listen everyone.

                                                                We Americans are stupid animals that like guns and killing each other. Just think, the fewer Americans there are the easier it will be for the rest of the world to rise up and conquer the evil that is America.

                                                                Sounds like a win for non-Americans. Recognize your victories!
                                                                Like i said i have no problems with Americans owning as much guns as they want.
                                                                Last edited by Dirty F; 02-27-2012, 02:02 PM.

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                                                                  • georgeyw
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                                                                    • Jul 2005
                                                                    • 9865
                                                                    #167
                                                                    Originally posted by Sly
                                                                    Listen everyone.

                                                                    We Americans are stupid animals that like guns and killing each other. Just think, the fewer Americans there are the easier it will be for the rest of the world to rise up and conquer the evil that is America.

                                                                    Sounds like a win for non-Americans. Recognize your victories!
                                                                    I wouldn't go that far, you do however have a very different view on gun ownership to most other first world countries.

                                                                    Then in DJ's case a complete lack of understanding of the difference between 'quit' / 'quite' - 'where' / 'were'
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                                                                      • TheSquealer
                                                                        Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                        • Oct 2004
                                                                        • 26177
                                                                        #168
                                                                        Since its usually poor and dumb people shooting other poor and dumb people, guns are ok. I'm not saying killing people is ok... but within the context of the greater good and survival of good genes, not a bad deal. Sometimes you have collateral damage, but people also get hit by buses and by lightening. Life is a crap shoot, but at least in some instances, probability and chance is weighted against bad genes.
                                                                        Last edited by TheSquealer; 02-27-2012, 02:01 PM.
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                                                                        Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                                        Rochard

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                                                                          • Dirty F
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                            • 59204
                                                                            #169
                                                                            Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                            ?Guns in America: National Survey on Private Ownership and Use of Firearms,? by the Clinton administration?s Justice Department shows that between 1.5 and 3 million people in the United States use a firearm to defend themselves and others from criminals each year."

                                                                            Good trade off for the occasional idiot that shoots someone.

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                                                                            How come there is less gun violence in Holland than in the US? Would the fact there are less guns here have something to do with it?

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                                                                              • D Ghost
                                                                                null
                                                                                • May 2006
                                                                                • 9820
                                                                                #170
                                                                                Just like there are different classes of drugs that are legal/illegal, different schedules... it's the same with weapons.

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                                                                                  • Sly
                                                                                    Let's do some business!
                                                                                    • Sep 2004
                                                                                    • 31376
                                                                                    #171
                                                                                    Non-Americans need to use their "lack of ignorance" that they are so proud of and try to understand why so many Americans believe guns are an essential right. Think of how our country was founded, how we became what we are, and what role guns played in that. Then add the basic human psychology of... you can't give people something and then take it away. Then recognize that this belief system has been ingrained in Americans for hundreds of years.

                                                                                    For those of you that don't know how America was found, read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War
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                                                                                      • D Ghost
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                                                                                        • May 2006
                                                                                        • 9820
                                                                                        #172
                                                                                        Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                        Ah but with a gun you can kill 15 people AND get caught so that makes having a gun ok. Thanks. Now it finally is all clear to me.
                                                                                        I didn't say it's ok to commit crimes with them. I'm saying there is accountability. And just like you have to register, and they can be traced to owner, who bought them, etc.

                                                                                        Imagine if they are illegal and black market, there is no accountability. Seems like you are ok with that. And easier for person to get away.

                                                                                        If the black market took over, there would be more crimes with guns, more blood shed.

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                                                                                          • TheSquealer
                                                                                            Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                                            • Oct 2004
                                                                                            • 26177
                                                                                            #173
                                                                                            Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                            How come there is less gun violence in Holland than in the US? Would the fact there are less guns here have something to do with it?
                                                                                            I've been all over the world and I would suggest that the biggest factor in levels of gun violence is cultural, not the presence or absence of guns or legality of gun ownership.
                                                                                            .
                                                                                            Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                                                            Rochard

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                                                                                              • DamianJ
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                                                                                                • Jul 2006
                                                                                                • 15808
                                                                                                #174
                                                                                                Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                                The guns are already here.
                                                                                                Get rid of them then.

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                                                                                                  • DamianJ
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                                                                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                                                                    • 15808
                                                                                                    #175
                                                                                                    Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                                                                                    Again, this isn't a black and white issue. So quite treating it as such.
                                                                                                    It is. If you have less guns, less people get shot. Black and white.

                                                                                                    It's really simple maths. Or math, as you say.

                                                                                                    But please post a link to something proving that wrong.

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                                                                                                      • Sly
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                                                                                                        • Sep 2004
                                                                                                        • 31376
                                                                                                        #176
                                                                                                        Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                                        Get rid of them then.
                                                                                                        Pretty good idea. I suggest after that we get rid of drugs and alcohol.
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                                                                                                          • Dirty F
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                                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                                            • 59204
                                                                                                            #177
                                                                                                            Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                                                                                            I didn't say it's ok to commit crimes with them. I'm saying there is accountability. And just like you have to register, and they can be traced to owner, who bought them, etc.

                                                                                                            Imagine if they are illegal and black market, there is no accountability. Seems like you are ok with that. And easier for person to get away.

                                                                                                            If the black market took over, there would be more crimes with guns, more blood shed.
                                                                                                            Well isnt that odd. In Holland only criminals have guns and still there is WAY less gun violence. Jeesh, almost looks like you are talking right out of your ass! Who would've expected that from a dumb little piece o fshit who defended his credit card banging boss for months while lying straight into the face of all the affiliates who paid for your shitty job.
                                                                                                            Last edited by Dirty F; 02-27-2012, 02:08 PM.

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                                                                                                              • D Ghost
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                                                                                                                • May 2006
                                                                                                                • 9820
                                                                                                                #178
                                                                                                                Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                                                How come there is less gun violence in Holland than in the US? Would the fact there are less guns here have something to do with it?
                                                                                                                I don't think it has to do with guns being illegal. There are other factors.

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                                                                                                                  • TheSquealer
                                                                                                                    Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                                                                    • Oct 2004
                                                                                                                    • 26177
                                                                                                                    #179
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by DamianJ

                                                                                                                    It's really simple maths. Or math, as you say.
                                                                                                                    Thanks for that. I read up to "maths" and thought "what the hell is this foreigner talking about in his savage native tongue?" Then continued reading and saw you added the translation which was a big help to me personally.

                                                                                                                    Last edited by TheSquealer; 02-27-2012, 02:09 PM.
                                                                                                                    .
                                                                                                                    Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                                                                                    Rochard

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                                                                                                                      • Dirty F
                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                        • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                        • 59204
                                                                                                                        #180
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                                                        I've been all over the world and I would suggest that the biggest factor in levels of gun violence is cultural, not the presence or absence of guns or legality of gun ownership.
                                                                                                                        Stats don't agree with you. And i tend to believe stats.

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                                                                                                                          • Dirty F
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                                                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                            • 59204
                                                                                                                            #181
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                                                            Pretty good idea. I suggest after that we get rid of drugs and alcohol.
                                                                                                                            Page 5 and you still didn't realize this thread is about guns? That's pretty goddamn dumb.

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                                                                                                                              • georgeyw
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                                                                                                                                • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                • 9865
                                                                                                                                #182
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by JohnnyClips
                                                                                                                                LOL I knew it- the debate is on guns...just unreal how propagandized the public is. Its downright scary!
                                                                                                                                Wait, are you the guy who pulled a gun on an old lady whilst walking your dog?
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                                                                                                                                  • Sly
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                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                    • 31376
                                                                                                                                    #183
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                                                                    Page 5 and you still didn't realize this thread is about guns? That's pretty goddamn dumb.
                                                                                                                                    You all seem to be suggesting that banning guns will solve a problem.

                                                                                                                                    I point you to prohibition and the war on drugs. Laws do not change cultural mentality. Afghanistan, Iraq, and countless other African/Middle Eastern wars prove this as well.
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                                                                                                                                      • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                                                        #184
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                                                                        In Holland only criminals have guns
                                                                                                                                        Incorrect. What an odd distortion of the truth.

                                                                                                                                        "There are about 80,000 people with a gun license in the Netherlands."

                                                                                                                                        http://qsi.cc/blog/archives/000144.html

                                                                                                                                        I dont think you even understand your own country and its gun use LOL

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                                                                                                                                          • porno jew
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                                                                                                                                            • Nov 2006
                                                                                                                                            • 10166
                                                                                                                                            #185
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                                                                            You all seem to be suggesting that banning guns will solve a problem.

                                                                                                                                            I point you to prohibition and the war on drugs. Laws do not change cultural mentality. Afghanistan, Iraq, and countless other African/Middle Eastern wars prove this as well.
                                                                                                                                            yes they do. prohibitions against smoking have had a great effect.

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                                                                                                                                              • D Ghost
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                                                                                                                                                • May 2006
                                                                                                                                                • 9820
                                                                                                                                                #186
                                                                                                                                                A drunk driver kills someone. We better ban alcohol completely too. Because we know how well that worked in the 1920s, hahahaha....

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                                                                                                                                                  • georgeyw
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                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                                                    • 9865
                                                                                                                                                    #187
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by JohnnyClips
                                                                                                                                                    In order to ban guns you would need people with guns to ban the guns and that makes NO logical sense. Ergo you can't ban guns. Simple.
                                                                                                                                                    Wah?

                                                                                                                                                    Gun amnesty. Simple.
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                                                                                                                                                      • Shotsie
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                                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2011
                                                                                                                                                        • 1208
                                                                                                                                                        #188
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                                                                                        How come there is less gun violence in Holland than in the US? Would the fact there are less guns here have something to do with it?
                                                                                                                                                        Are you really trying to compare The Netherlands to the United States?

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                                                                                                                                                          • DamianJ
                                                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                                            • 15808
                                                                                                                                                            #189
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by JohnnyClips
                                                                                                                                                            You can't ban anything. Just because you make something "illegal" doesn't mean diddly squat. It only makes the issue or problem 10 times worse. Do we have any enlightened people here?
                                                                                                                                                            Do you keep missing the pretty pictures I post showing you're totally wrong?

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                                                                                                                                                              • L-Pink
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                                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                                                                • 39151
                                                                                                                                                                #190
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by georgeyw
                                                                                                                                                                Wah?

                                                                                                                                                                Gun amnesty. Simple.
                                                                                                                                                                here?

                                                                                                                                                                .

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Sly
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                                                    • 31376
                                                                                                                                                                    #191
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                                                                                                                    yes they do. prohibitions against smoking have had a great effect.
                                                                                                                                                                    That's a terrible example. There has been a huge stigma around cigarettes for several decades now and also a huge education program that revolves around teaching people not to smoke.

                                                                                                                                                                    The same would need to be done for guns and it would take many decades to make any impact at all. Not to mention, guns are not a consumable good. Cigarettes you buy, often daily (same with drugs and alcohol), guns you own for good. Gun owners are not getting rid of guns unless they want to get rid of them.
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                                                                                        #192
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Shotsie
                                                                                                                                                                        Are you really trying to compare The Netherlands to the United States?
                                                                                                                                                                        this article does it, and as it shows, Netherlands has its fair share of both violence and lots of licensed gun owners. And dont forget the huge amount of UNLICENSED gun owners. Article even says, by european standards getting a gun in netherlands, is easy...

                                                                                                                                                                        http://qsi.cc/blog/archives/000144.html
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                                                                                                                                                                          • georgeyw
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                                                                                                                                                                            #193
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by DJ The Kid
                                                                                                                                                                            A drunk driver kills someone. We better ban alcohol completely too. Because we know how well that worked in the 1920s, hahahaha....
                                                                                                                                                                            Wait, so a kid can take a beer to school with the intention of shooting another kid? Interesting.
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                                                                                                                                                                              • georgeyw
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                                                                                                                                                                                #194
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                                                                                                                here?

                                                                                                                                                                                .
                                                                                                                                                                                It worked here.
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • DamianJ
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 15808
                                                                                                                                                                                    #195
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                                                                                                                    You all seem to be suggesting that banning guns will solve a problem.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Well I've proven less guns = less people killed with guns. It's not really suggesting anything. It's demonstrable.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                                                                                                                    I point you to prohibition and the war on drugs.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Yes, worldwide the war on drugs has failed. But in countries with strict gun control, MANY MANY less people per 100k get shot.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Fact.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Dirty F
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                        #196
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                                                                                                                        Incorrect. What an odd distortion of the truth.

                                                                                                                                                                                        "There are about 80,000 people with a gun license in the Netherlands."

                                                                                                                                                                                        http://qsi.cc/blog/archives/000144.html

                                                                                                                                                                                        I dont think you even understand your own country and its gun use LOL
                                                                                                                                                                                        Yes you dumbass i'm aware there is a group of people with guns in Holland other than criminals. Yes, i should've pointed that out but i highly doubt there is anybody here who doesn't understand that just like any other country we have gun clubs who practice shooting as a sport.

                                                                                                                                                                                        These aren't the gun owners as they as in the US. With a bunch of small guns within hand reach to "protect" their home.
                                                                                                                                                                                        They don't conceal them while going out. They don't have them with them in the car etc etc.
                                                                                                                                                                                        These are mostly people with rifles that only are used for sports once a week.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Still it doesn't change the fact that there are way less guns per 1000 people in Holland with results in way less gun violence. Something that is still really fucking hard to understand for hicks like you.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • TheSquealer
                                                                                                                                                                                            Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 26177
                                                                                                                                                                                            #197
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                                                                                                                            Stats don't agree with you. And i tend to believe stats.
                                                                                                                                                                                            I'm too lazy to look. I mean that a culture that is more aggressive in nature, where major violence/violent crimes is more common is more likely to own guns and more likely to shoot people with them. Just like the USA... gun violence is largely limited to very shitty areas.
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                                                                                                                                                                                            Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • L-Pink
                                                                                                                                                                                                working on my tan
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 39151
                                                                                                                                                                                                #198
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by georgeyw
                                                                                                                                                                                                It worked here.
                                                                                                                                                                                                ALL of your citizens voluntarily turned over their firearms? Every one of them?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • D Ghost
                                                                                                                                                                                                    null
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • May 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 9820
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #199
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Interesting. Mexico has only 15 guns per 100 people. And US 88 per 100. But the Firearm homicides per capita is higher in Mexico.



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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Fletch XXX
                                                                                                                                                                                                        GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 60840
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #200
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Yes you dumbass
                                                                                                                                                                                                        tell me again WHY did you ask me to remove you off ignore when this is all you do?



                                                                                                                                                                                                        "oh fletch ive been such a dick trolling you I do it for no reason and I know ive been a douche" basically your words... LOL

                                                                                                                                                                                                        now you pissed because I actually discuss something with you and prove you wrong?

                                                                                                                                                                                                        LOLz

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