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globofun 02-25-2012 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by martinsc (Post 18780738)
I'm surprised.... there is quite a bit really business and advise giving on GFY lately....

It's a good start! :thumbsup

porno jew 02-25-2012 11:21 AM

1) research.
2) build.
3) seo / traffic.

2 is the easiest. if you fuck up 1 all your work will be wasted. 3 takes time and where most people give up because it is not instant gratification.

Dirty F 02-25-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18780906)
1) research.
2) build.
3) seo / traffic.

2 is the easiest. if you fuck up 1 all your work will be wasted.

Well doesn't that totally depend on what you want to do? People keep acting if a blog network = pure seo work only.
I've had plenty of blogs where i did nothing seo wise, just made a nice blog with nice content and normal link exchanged and they got good listings and decent seo traffic.

It's not as black and white as you trying making it look.
You can have a perfectly fine blog network without doing seo research before you start.

porno jew 02-25-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18780912)
Well doesn't that totally depend on what you want to do? People keep acting if a blog network = pure seo work only.
I've had plenty of blogs where i did nothing seo wise, just made a nice blog with nice content and normal link exchanged and they got good listings and decent seo traffic.

It's not as black and white as you trying making it look.
You can have a perfectly fine blog network without doing seo research before you start.

i'm talking keyword research. sure you can get lucky without it but just as many have just built out blogs based around keywords no one was looking for and thus failed.

there is no one approach i agree.

Dirty F 02-25-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18780918)
i'm talking keyword research. sure you can get lucky without it but just as many have just built out blogs based around keywords no one was looking for and thus failed.

there is no one approach i agree.

Still you make it act as if you don't do keyword research you need to be very lucky to get some se traffic or something. This is just not true.
You know way more about blogs than i do, i'm sure of that but what you are saying here is simply not correct.

porno jew 02-25-2012 11:36 AM

ok, sure. also people in adult could learn a lot by studying how mainstream people build their networks. they have some pretty refined approaches.

Dirty F 02-25-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18780933)
ok, sure. also people in adult could learn a lot by studying how mainstream people build their networks. they have some pretty refined approaches.

Why don't you show us some examples :Graucho

Dirty F 02-25-2012 11:42 AM

Jew, just wondering what do you consider seo research. What do you do before you register a domain? You don't have share any secrets or details i'm just trying to figure out what you consider a must do or else it will fail. Thanks.

Sly 02-25-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18780927)
Still you make it act as if you don't do keyword research you need to be very lucky to get some se traffic or something. This is just not true.
You know way more about blogs than i do, i'm sure of that but what you are saying here is simply not correct.

I don't think he is saying you'll have no success. I think you saying that you'll have much better success if you prepare and research first.

If you are going to work like a horse for several months, why not spend a day researching?

Dirty F 02-25-2012 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18780943)
I don't think he is saying you'll have no success. I think you saying that you'll have much better success if you prepare and research first.

If you are going to work like a horse for several months, why not spend a day researching?

Sure, but he started by saying "if you don't research you will fail". And that is not true.

porno jew 02-25-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18780941)
Jew, just wondering what do you consider seo research. What do you do before you register a domain? You don't have share any secrets or details i'm just trying to figure out what you consider a must do or else it will fail. Thanks.

keyword tools like google keyword tool and market samurai. keyword ideas, search volumes, serp competion and so on.

Dirty F 02-25-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18780976)
keyword tools like google keyword tool and market samurai. keyword ideas, search volumes, serp competion and so on.

Yeah i get that. I do that as well. But not what i mean.

Ah nevermind, it doesn't matter.

tonyparra 02-25-2012 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 18780302)
Simple numbers.

Month 1: make 5 blogs a day, for 24 days. 120 total.
Month 2: same thing, but pull in 10 dollars per blog from last month. 1200 total.
Month 3: same thing, 10 from last month, 5 two months ago. 1800
Month 4: 10/5/5 = 2400
5: 10/5/5/5 . 3000
6. 3600
7. 4200
8. 4800
9. 5400
10 6000
11 6600
12 7200

This assumes you have pounder that converts at 1:900 at 30 and occasional sales from posts. Occasional cams/dating sales. Also getting money from ads using plug rush or other ads.

It doesn't account for if one or more blogs actually ranks for a keyword and takes off. In theory you would want to invest 400 a month back into writing for the ones that are taking off.

After a year hire someone else to make the blogs. And keep doing so each time you can afford to do so. Scale...

Don't think it is possible? Medium pimping guys did it with far fewer blogs created a month.

Just have to do the work.

You know you got me thinking. I remember your post about being "too nice" to the surfer. I dont use popunders on any of my sites, i always assumed people just closed them, but really when i think about it all the biggest sites have them. Im going to start employing popunders.

porno jew 02-25-2012 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 18781376)
You know you got me thinking. I remember your post about being "too nice" to the surfer. I dont use popunders on any of my sites, i always assumed people just closed them, but really when i think about it all the biggest sites have them. Im going to start employing popunders.

those numbers might have worked in 2005-6 wont work that easy now.

Nicky 02-26-2012 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18781393)
those numbers might have worked in 2005-6 wont work that easy now.

$5 per blog per month average? I'd be pissed if I only made that...

porno jew 02-26-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 18782391)
$5 per blog per month average? I'd be pissed if I only made that...

it's not going to scale like that in such an orderly robotic fashion for a few reasons.

but if someone can do it more power to them. would like to see.

Nicky 02-26-2012 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18782395)
it's not going to scale like that in such an orderly robotic fashion for a few reasons.

but if someone can do it more power to them. would like to see.

You are right, ofc It's not going to look exactly like that, you have to consider a lot of factors and make good decisions along the way. Scale certain stuff etc but an average of $5 per blog is very much doable.

VenusBlogger 02-26-2012 12:54 PM

Blogs are the only way to go.

I suggest micro niches like someone else said.

Avoid CAMS or BABES sponsors. You will see 0:15,000 there.

mineistaken 02-26-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 18780302)
Simple numbers.

Month 1: make 5 blogs a day, for 24 days. 120 total.
Month 2: same thing, but pull in 10 dollars per blog from last month. 1200 total.
Month 3: same thing, 10 from last month, 5 two months ago. 1800
Month 4: 10/5/5 = 2400
5: 10/5/5/5 . 3000
6. 3600
7. 4200
8. 4800
9. 5400
10 6000
11 6600
12 7200

This assumes you have pounder that converts at 1:900 at 30 and occasional sales from posts. Occasional cams/dating sales. Also getting money from ads using plug rush or other ads.

It doesn't account for if one or more blogs actually ranks for a keyword and takes off. In theory you would want to invest 400 a month back into writing for the ones that are taking off.

After a year hire someone else to make the blogs. And keep doing so each time you can afford to do so. Scale...

Don't think it is possible? Medium pimping guys did it with far fewer blogs created a month.

Just have to do the work.

Theory ;)

shinmusashi44 02-26-2012 03:21 PM

Little update

Been doing research on sponsors and keywords. I'm working on a test site to get the hang of it. I should have it up some time later today.

Was wondering if its a good idea to also post a link to the sponsor in the post? And if so do you spell out the sponsors name for the link or just make one of the keywords the link. Cause right now I just have it where the pic links to the sponsor. Just wondering if you see high click rate with a link in the text.

shinmusashi44 02-26-2012 11:31 PM

Ok, finished up all my research and sponsor grabs. Also finished up my first site, slow start this morning. Took forever to get to writing, but once I started, it started to take shape. Became a lot easier after the first post, the first leap is always the scariest.

I'm going with black/ebony niches at first, but will branch out to more as time goes on. I'm gonna double up on the sub-niches, so 10 sites and 5 sub-niches.

Ok, so first site is a black teen girlfriend site http://realblackteengfs.com/ Tomorrow, I'll make another one.

martinsc 02-26-2012 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by shinmusashi44 (Post 18782865)
Little update

Been doing research on sponsors and keywords. I'm working on a test site to get the hang of it. I should have it up some time later today.

Was wondering if its a good idea to also post a link to the sponsor in the post? And if so do you spell out the sponsors name for the link or just make one of the keywords the link. Cause right now I just have it where the pic links to the sponsor. Just wondering if you see high click rate with a link in the text.

from my opinion:

linking from the picture - more traffic
linking the sponsors name or "JOIN [SPONSOR NAME]" - better ratios, less clicks
linking keywords - I use these for internal links :winkwink::winkwink:

:2 cents::2 cents:

shinmusashi44 02-27-2012 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by martinsc (Post 18783506)
from my opinion:

linking from the picture - more traffic
linking the sponsors name or "JOIN [SPONSOR NAME]" - better ratios, less clicks
linking keywords - I use these for internal links :winkwink::winkwink:

:2 cents::2 cents:

Thats pretty much what I figured, thanks.

Lykos 02-27-2012 05:30 AM

Nice thread !

shinmusashi44 02-29-2012 03:05 AM

I submitted realblackteengfs.com to adultblogresource.com and just finished up another black teen girlfriend site http://sluttyblackgirlfriends.com/

shinmusashi44 03-02-2012 12:12 AM

Started on 2 Black anal niches. http://ebonyanalfreaks.com/ and http://blackanalsistas.com/ no content yet. It seems its hard to find black/ebony anal sites with anal content. Almost all the site I find or people send say anal, but when you go to the content, its non-anal :( I'll keep looking...

lucas131 03-02-2012 08:27 AM

cool mate shimushishashi, any sales on there so far? :) have luck man! :thumbsup

shinmusashi44 03-02-2012 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 18796880)
cool mate shimushishashi, any sales on there so far? :) have luck man! :thumbsup

No sales yet, but its not really even been a week. I also haven't done any real link trades yet either. Thanks :)

shinmusashi44 03-03-2012 12:48 AM

I'm looking through Linkspun and was wondering about the do's and don'ts on the site, anyone use it? Also how the hell do you set your site up for people to request a trade from you? I only see where you can search for trades.

anexsia 03-03-2012 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by shinmusashi44 (Post 18799279)
I'm looking through Linkspun and was wondering about the do's and don'ts on the site, anyone use it? Also how the hell do you set your site up for people to request a trade from you? I only see where you can search for trades.

You'll be listed on the trade search results...every time you login to linkspun you get bumped up the list since it shows trades of people that have logged in most recently.

Link Spun is a fantastic tool but you just gotta use the block button and block the people with link farms, spam sites, shitty sites, etc. You'll basically figure out who the good traders are there.

shinmusashi44 03-03-2012 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18799282)
You'll be listed on the trade search results...every time you login to linkspun you get bumped up the list since it shows trades of people that have logged in most recently.

Link Spun is a fantastic tool but you just gotta use the block button and block the people with link farms, spam sites, shitty sites, etc. You'll basically figure out who the good traders are there.

Ok, so do you just add your sites to "manage pages" and thats all to get them to show in the trade area? Thanks for the help.

anexsia 03-03-2012 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by shinmusashi44 (Post 18799289)
Ok, so do you just add your sites to "manage pages" and thats all to get them to show in the trade area? Thanks for the help.

Yup, they will show up in the trade area...just add all of your blogs so people have some to pick from. Wait until you get tons of blogs, then you'll see hundreds of requests every day and curse having to go through them all :) Congrats though, your blogs look great...figure out what makes sales and scale up! There's also a forum on Link Spun that has some good advice and V_Rocks is always willing to help.

Dirty F 03-03-2012 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by shinmusashi44 (Post 18795678)
Started on 2 Black anal niches. http://ebonyanalfreaks.com/ and http://blackanalsistas.com/ no content yet. It seems its hard to find black/ebony anal sites with anal content. Almost all the site I find or people send say anal, but when you go to the content, its non-anal :( I'll keep looking...

Yeah, it's easy for people to say you should do micro niches only but try to fill up 300 blogs with micro niches...

I suggest you do both big niches and micro niches. And mix it up a bit.

shinmusashi44 03-03-2012 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18799685)
Yeah, it's easy for people to say you should do micro niches only but try to fill up 300 blogs with micro niches...

I suggest you do both big niches and micro niches. And mix it up a bit.

Yeah I cam to that when looking for black anal, I found like 10 good sites, but when you go to the content, its mostly non-anal, what the hell people :mad: so after a few updates I'll be out of content. So looks like these will be mostly dead sites till I get more content. But I can at least add it to the pile of sites and that never hurts.

shinmusashi44 03-03-2012 05:15 AM

Alright BlackAnalSistas.com is finished. Submitted to some 15 blog directories and on linkspun.

Django 03-03-2012 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinsc (Post 18780738)
I'm surprised.... there is quite a bit really business and advise giving on GFY lately....

One of the best thread imo, Nicky started a good one also months ago but I have not seen it lately :thumbsup

shinmusashi44 03-03-2012 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Django (Post 18799835)
One of the best thread imo, Nicky started a good one also months ago but I have not seen it lately :thumbsup

Yeah, when people aren't arguing over what seo is better or what that other person is doing wrong, you can get some good info :1orglaugh

shinmusashi44 03-03-2012 07:19 AM

Ok got another one done ebonyanalfreaks.com about to add to linkspun and do some scheduled post.

Dirty F 03-03-2012 07:42 AM

Are those blog dirs bringing you any traffic? I personally don't do those type of exchanges. Not saying its right or wrong, just wondering.

Dirty F 03-03-2012 07:51 AM

I can't believe you guys don't outsource the writing part.
I just don't understand how your time can be worth so little.

shinmusashi44 03-03-2012 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18799884)
Are those blog dirs bringing you any traffic? I personally don't do those type of exchanges. Not saying its right or wrong, just wondering.

As of right now, I'm not seeing any real traffic. I give it a little and see if I need to find something new. What type do you do?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18799895)
I can't believe you guys don't outsource the writing part.
I just don't understand how your time can be worth so little.

Is there a good option to outsource the writing that doesn't break the bank? I'd like to know, I'd be happier If I didn't have to write.

beks001 03-03-2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Django (Post 18799835)
One of the best thread imo, Nicky started a good one also months ago but I have not seen it lately :thumbsup

If you are looking for a good blog thread check this out too. I actually posted stats too.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=18799968#post18799968

Barefootsies 03-03-2012 08:45 AM

Thanks for sharing top notch. Interesting read.

:thumbsup

anexsia 03-03-2012 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18799884)
Are those blog dirs bringing you any traffic? I personally don't do those type of exchanges. Not saying its right or wrong, just wondering.

They bring traffic but to be honest I've only ever had a few sales with them...I submit my blogs to directories because it seems to get the blogs indexed and ranking fast while the ones I don't submit don't see as much SE traffic for a month or so.

SnakeX 03-03-2012 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18799282)
You'll be listed on the trade search results...every time you login to linkspun you get bumped up the list since it shows trades of people that have logged in most recently.

Link Spun is a fantastic tool but you just gotta use the block button and block the people with link farms, spam sites, shitty sites, etc. You'll basically figure out who the good traders are there.

add me at your list at linkspun for trades...i see you make good job...Keep going

:thumbsup:thumbsup

shinmusashi44 03-03-2012 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnakeX (Post 18800686)
add me at your list at linkspun for trades...i see you make good job...Keep going

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Added:thumbsup

ElleSorbet 03-04-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18799895)
I can't believe you guys don't outsource the writing part.
I just don't understand how your time can be worth so little.

What's this say about us who are writing the material for other people's sites... hmm... I'm not saying you can't make more doing something else, but sounds like you're shitting on the people doing the work for your blogs/sites

Dirty F 03-04-2012 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ElleSorbet (Post 18802421)
What's this say about us who are writing the material for other people's sites... hmm... not saying you can't make more doing something else, but sounds like you're shitting on the people doing the work for your blogs/sites

I have no clue what you are saying. I hope you're not a writer.

ElleSorbet 03-04-2012 03:10 PM

<3 oh you got me there, dollface.

Rick Diculous 03-04-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinsc (Post 18783506)
from my opinion:

linking from the picture - more traffic
linking the sponsors name or "JOIN [SPONSOR NAME]" - better ratios, less clicks
linking keywords - I use these for internal links :winkwink::winkwink:

:2 cents::2 cents:

What he says.

I try to mix it up. I sometimes have the pic link to the paysite tour and sometime it links to a gallery hosted on my blog (this helps with time spent on site and pageviews)

Ratios were better when I was linking directly to the tour, but now with the changes made by Google, I try to keep the surfer longer on my site. This has improved my SERPS a bit, but not my ratios


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