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				What is your tube submission strategy?
			 
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		 I actually submit two sizes, a 5 minute to most and a 10 minute to get listed on the larger tubes that require "full movies". Never do I give them the full thing, just cut it up so it's quite full with lots of action from every position. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	I use both advertising methods. I always watermark, which gets a LOT of deletions but as far as affiliate links go, if I can use them, I use them when the tool permits. I use a submitter that helps me along the way but it cannot do the affiliate link and banner info in live or automated mode. However, If I was able to automate that part I would probably remove watermarks for those tubes that allow linking and rely solely on links only for the simple fact that it gets more listings and higher ratings by tube viewers.  | 
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		 what about 3-5min option?  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 i submit only Full Movie Clips With Watermarks on biggest tube sites 1 M unique visitors per day on daily basis. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
	
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		 at least 5min+ with watermarks of course 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
	and with banners via a partner program if possible but any listing is good with a watermark for type ins  | 
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		 I'll let you in on a little secret, which isn't really a secret if you know how tubes work. You submit videos for VISIBILITY. If you want visibility, then you have to show people the best you can do. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			I have a lot of affiliates sending me 2-3 minutes vids that are simple random cuts or making-out scenes, and expect that to convert. Why should it convert when users have access to longer vids and full scenes? My best-sellers are users submitting 5-10min clips, and are active daily or weekly in their uploading. Raw hits isn't the point here, as their ratios is already really good. It does help, but in the end, it's all about the quality of what you want to submit. If you want an account on PornerBros.com, hit me up. I'll be glad to set something up for you. free underplayer spot for each vid, with his links, and anything 5minutes and higher, of quality, ends up on our frontpage. 
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 I just wish I could submit to all those webmaster friendly sites with a submit tool, local bandwidth won't allow manual uploads without going above thresh of metered bandwidth with my canadian ISP. Then watermarks won't matter so much.  | 
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		 If I submitted to tubes then my strategy would be all of the above and go with whichever one works the best for me.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 We are submitting just over 6min, watermarked clips to tubes we have personally contacted and set up relationships with... i.e. they place a banner or some sort of advertisement in or around the video.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	a. 30 seconds of the best action in rapid 2-3 second cuts b. A personal invitation to join the site (12 seconds or less) c. 20 seconds of setup d. 275 seconds of action e. 15 seconds of cum shot f. A personal invitation to join the site (12 seconds or less) When we do this consistently 2-3 times a week there is a noticeable increase in traffic & joins. Unfortunately we are not as consistent as we should be. We are small potatoes and everyone wears 10 hats.  | 
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 That's a very peculiar video setup, that in itself must take quite a bit of time to put together. I would suggest just doing the 1 min intro, 1 min strip/explore, 1 min blow, 1 min fuck, 1 min fuck til cumshot and see how that goes. You may find similar results with a lot less prep time. The personal invitation is really something I should be doing too.  | 
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 Thanks for the feedback. It does take a bit of time to set each video up that way. I'll give it a go with the structure you described and thank you in advance if it lends the same results! This has been an instructive thread  | 
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		 Any tube site strategy has to be based on using the tubes as a shop window to your brand. You have the opportunity to expose your branded content to tens of millions of users a day by uploading to multiple tubes, we all have a Content Publishing Program. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			With that in mind, do you really think that short 3 - 5 minute edited clips of your older content really does your brand justice? The best converting content owners that I see on PornTube, 4Tube and Fux, and the best ones I saw on YouPorn for the 4 years that we ran our CPP (btw I was Director of Biz Dev at YouPorn from late 2006 to the sale to Manwin in 2011) were the ones that actually edited their videos specifically for the tubes. Rather than just simply cutting multiple 5 minute clips from minute 3 to minute 8 of their 50 oldest scenes, they would edit their best scenes into 7-12 minute clips that feature a beginning, a middle and an ending. (By ending, I mean a cum shot or an orgasm where possible). Every video you submit to the tubes should be the best possible representation of your brand. It's like trying to sell Ferrari's but you have a shop window full of old Fords that 10's of millions of people are walking by each day. The difference in stats you'll see is significant. These clips would generate more views and higher ratings which in turn gets more exposure on the front pages of most tubes. This results in significantly higher click thru's on your promotional banners which means more sales for you. Of course, I am promoting the PornTube CPP which you can find at content.porntube.com , but you need to upload to all of the big tubes. My ideal is for you to edit the best possible clip once and upload to many tubes. We are so adamant that longer clips work that any clip you upload to us which is 10 minutes or longer, we remove all affiliate links, so you get this traffic affiliate free! I have written a guide titled The PornTube Content Publishing Program Guide where I give you an insight into the mindset of a tube user and how best to promote your content to them. Email me at jt (at) porntube (dot) com for a copy. Sign up to our CPP at content.porntube.com 
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		 Our whole business strategy is based on uploading our best content to the tubes. We always edit a clip for the tubes with a minimum of 8 minutes length, but mostly are over 10 minutes. Have a look on Youporn or Porntube at our clips. The DaneJones clips you can see are all mostly 10 mins plus (especially as porntube take out their affiliate code on the longer clips) and you can see that the clips are doing really well. I am getting a CTR of average 2% plus from the tubes that actually provide me stats and I am getting great conversions. For my site FakeAgent, I am getting CTR of around 1.4% average and again, sales are fantastic. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	As I say, my whole strategy is based on uploading to the tubes and since we launched our first site back in July 2011 we have now done over 25,000 new signups/rebills, and we don't run any offers/$1 trials at all. You can make money off the tubes, but you have to be prepared to edit with their users in mind. Actually, it is like that porntube guy says, if you have a ferrari, show that you have one. We have, and we are literally making bank. (Our affiliates are making bank too BTW)  | 
	
		
                 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
			
		
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		 You get to watermark your videos and we also give you a promo banner under the video player. The first 2 weeks we give you all your promo banners affiliate link free too, so this will all be 100% free traffic to you. Email me and I'll send you the porntube guide. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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