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porno jew 02-10-2012 03:17 PM
this thread is total proof that the most of the porn industry is filled with de-evolved idiots who made money in the golden years of porn when any monkey could push buttons on a keyboard and make money.

Choker 02-10-2012 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18750601)
It's not provided for free, our taxes would pay for it... working women wouldn't get it for free, they would have insurance or pay for it through taxes. However if the women is poor, lives in a state that does not provide assistance, or is part of a religion or ends up in a hospital, that all "refuse" to provide for her, then Obama's policy would kick in, if she has no insurance. Again, paid for through our taxes, because a religion refused to honor a womens choice.

You're mad at the wrong person.

A business is a regulation, every corp has regs, some more than others... some suck, some are bad, and some are very good and very needed. A serious problem is what was happening to make these regulations happen, like religion forcing a womens choice is a constitutional violation - which far out weights a corps rights......... which are ZERO!

Your premiums went up for the last 10, 20+ years, and your coverage went down... and even without Obamacare, it would have went up and continue to do so. You pay for poor women that can't afford it already, at a much higher premium rate.... typically hitting both the state and the fed.

But hey... your money is more important than a womens rights. Of course you would be singing a totally different song if you were a women that needed this.
You sound like a socailist. Yes my money is more important to me and my family than a woman who needs birth control that I have no idea who she is. You sound just like Obama. If I were a woman who couldn't afford birth control I wouldn't going asking strangers on the street for money, would you? There really is no difference here.

Choker 02-10-2012 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18750632)
so you pay for the lifelong welfare moms and their many kids instead. seems like a great trade off.
Your thinking is what I am so anoyed about. Iregardless of the end results, the government should not have the authority to dictate to a business what they should or should not provide to their employees. All these regulations and rules are what got us into the financial mess we are in now.

porno jew 02-10-2012 04:00 PM
you sound like a stereotypical american idiot who patrols their garbage cans with a machine gun. fuck off.

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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18751204)
You sound like a socailist. Yes my money is more important to me and my family than a woman who needs birth control that I have no idea who she is. You sound just like Obama. If I were a woman who couldn't afford birth control I wouldn't going asking strangers on the street for money, would you? There really is no difference here.

Choker 02-10-2012 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18751111)
this thread is total proof that the most of the porn industry is filled with de-evolved idiots who made money in the golden years of porn when any monkey could push buttons on a keyboard and make money.
What amazes me is how so many adult webmasters who are capitalist, free market gurus, want socialist style reforms and agree with the government being able to tell them what they can and cannot do. I am paying a higher tax rate now than I ever did in the "golden years of porn" yet I am not making more, I make the same as before but I am working a lot more than I did then yet paying more in taxes. I rarely take a day off. What I fear is increased taxes thanks to Obama. My health insurance has like doubled in two years.

beerptrol 02-10-2012 04:06 PM
why don't they make BC a 4 dollar prescription at walmart! Or buy a case of old swillwaukee get a free month of BC

Choker 02-10-2012 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18751213)
you sound like a stereotypical american idiot who patrols their garbage cans with a machine gun. fuck off.
You sound like a failed webmaster who wants the government to take care of you. How about you fuck off punk.

porno jew 02-10-2012 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18751235)
You sound like a failed webmaster who wants the government to take care of you. How about you fuck off punk.
go patrol your garbage can goof. whatever.

porno jew 02-10-2012 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18751229)
What amazes me is how so many adult webmasters who are capitalist, free market gurus, want socialist style reforms and agree with the government being able to tell them what they can and cannot do. I am paying a higher tax rate now than I ever did in the "golden years of porn" yet I am not making more, I make the same as before but I am working a lot more than I did then yet paying more in taxes. I rarely take a day off. What I fear is increased taxes thanks to Obama. My health insurance has like doubled in two years.
you admit you went bust in a failed business scheme and are struggling to get back on your feet. who are you fooling? you are just bitter, blaming obama for your problems and patrolling your garbage cans with machine guns. whatever dude.

Choker 02-10-2012 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18751242)
you admit you went bust in a failed business scheme and are struggling to get back on your feet. who are you fooling? you are just bitter, blaming obama for your problems and patrolling your garbage cans with machine guns. whatever dude.
What the fuck are you talking about punk? Struggling to get back on my feet? I think you have me mixed up with someone else. Yeah I've had several ideas not work out so good, but never to the point where I had t o"struggle to get back on my feet". Look here punk, I'm not gonna play your little games on GFY arguing over nothing. You are nothing more than a loud mouthed Keyboard warrior . A nobody. Your life revolves around what you think others think about you from your GFY posts. I've seen hundreds of losers like you over the years. How many posts a day on gfy ? LOL. Play your online games with someone else. I'm not interested PUNK.

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Paul Markham 02-11-2012 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18751204)
You sound like a socailist. Yes my money is more important to me and my family than a woman who needs birth control that I have no idea who she is. You sound just like Obama. If I were a woman who couldn't afford birth control I wouldn't going asking strangers on the street for money, would you? There really is no difference here.
So you would rather pay out billions to look after on wanted children than pay millions to prevent them. Great business strategy.

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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18751235)
You sound like a failed webmaster who wants the government to take care of you. How about you fuck off punk.
I'm a successful businessman who wants the Government to look after me rather than rely only on a company run by a board of shareholders. It's called a safety net.

I also want to extend this to other unfortunates who because of businessmen closing factories to open them in the third world are left without a future.

Choker get real, don't live in some little bubble. The future is more and more automation, more and more jobs that used to be done by Americans, or Europeans, will be done by Chinese or Indians. Go look at the "Made in" labels in a toy or clothing shop.

So unless the rich spend billions to educate these people up to a level to do a job Third world workers can't, they are a fact of life. You can pay to keep them fed and happy and in their parts of town or give them nothing and they will come to your part of town looking for what they need.

Since the recession have crime level increased or decreased in your part of the world?
It's great to look at the world through rose tinted glasses until someone smashes them.

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If I were a woman who couldn't afford birth control I wouldn't going asking strangers on the street for money, would you? There really is no difference here
What would you do? Pop out children and let the State pay for them?

epitome 02-11-2012 01:53 AM
LOL reading these replies are hysterical. People just make up shit to try and make their beliefs true.

GFED 02-11-2012 01:58 AM
i don't think giving out birth control will help anything... most of these whores having babies do it for the "unconditional love", use and abuse the system, or to collect child support.

BlackCrayon 02-11-2012 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18751211)
Your thinking is what I am so anoyed about. Iregardless of the end results, the government should not have the authority to dictate to a business what they should or should not provide to their employees. All these regulations and rules are what got us into the financial mess we are in now.
what kind of shitty health insurance doesn't already cover that anyways? its pretty standard, at with companies here in canada. personally i think birht control should be free to those who make under a certain amount who can't afford insurance. those are the people who really need to stop reproducing.

raymor 02-11-2012 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18751093)

We are NOT paying 50% more, nor are you paying $500 a month more, very simple to understand why.... it's capped.

Like "every" year, if your plan changes, your insurance company changed it, just like they have before. If you want different insurance, go get it... the choice is 100% yours. At that, your corp isn't big enough that it's forced to do anything, so the choice is all yours.
I thought you were in the US? If so, I guess you haven't watched the news (or bought health insurance) for the last few years. Damn I wish it was my choice. I sure would love to keep the insurance we had. We can't though because it's not Obama approved. It already went up $250 / month starting last month when the Obamacare pre-existing condition under 18 rule went into effect . The insurance company has notified us it'll be another $250 / month by next year to cover the extra crap Obamacare requires coverage for then. Our choice?!?! Are you living in 2004? That's why we had to raise the price on Strongbox and Throttlebox - to cover the increased premiums under Obamacare because we can no longer choose an affordable plan - it's illegal. We have to buy Obama approved coverage.

Fletch XXX 02-11-2012 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18750352)
SO now Obama is trying to save face. Heard a spokesman say that every woman has the right to free birth control. WTF is going on in this country. Every woman has the right to free birth control? I don't remember reading that in the Constitution. Here my government is forcing insurance companies into this shit which results in my health insurance increasing. Government needs to get the fuck out of private business.
the average obese person costs tax payers 8k a year in hostpital, why not bitch about fat people instead?

birth control is cheap compared to the other wastes... id rather have women not make more poverty stricken kids than be fat and you pay their medical anyway....

tony286 02-11-2012 09:22 AM
Funny raymor my health ins has gone up every year since I got it in 2001. Everytime it's time to renew it goes up. Obama wasn't even a Senator back then want to blame him? Also No ones fed taxes have gone up a dime for most they went down.

CDSmith 02-19-2012 09:28 AM
Doctors in Canada have been dishing out free birth control to women since the 70's and possibly earlier than that. We still have a teen/unwanted pregnancy problem, but then again one has to wonder what that problem would look like without free birth control.

The long term cost of unwanted pregnancy is horrendous, that much I know. Throwing a bandaid like free birth control at it to reduce it is probably a good idea.

tony286 02-19-2012 12:27 PM
Also women need bc for other Med reasons than no babies.

Cherry7 02-19-2012 03:41 PM
The State creates and maintains the conditions for capitalism to function.

It schools a workforce for both McDonald's and for Hi Tech businesses

The poor pay far more in proportion in taxes than the business owners who live in a form of communism where they can have what ever they want.

A woman has a right to be able to control her body.

A woman who raises children is doing the most important job there is, replacing the workforce with a new one.

When you are drooling in a home it will be her children creating the wealth to feed you.

What we should do is sterilize ever one who owns more than say a million dollars so that no wealth is pass on and there is true social mobility.

PornoMonster 02-19-2012 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 18768833)
Doctors in Canada have been dishing out free birth control to women since the 70's and possibly earlier than that. We still have a teen/unwanted pregnancy problem, but then again one has to wonder what that problem would look like without free birth control.

The long term cost of unwanted pregnancy is horrendous, that much I know. Throwing a bandaid like free birth control at it to reduce it is probably a good idea.
Yes we have
Planned Parenthood
Which the Gov gives Lots of Money to for this very reason also.

I am for giving out free BC, just not forcing a company to do it!

mchacal 04-02-2012 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18750367)
I don't agree with you Choker. I think birth control should be mandatory and permits needed to have a kid.

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I support mandatory permits to have kids:thumbsup

Bill8 04-02-2012 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18750352)
SO now Obama is trying to save face. Heard a spokesman say that every woman has the right to free birth control. WTF is going on in this country. Every woman has the right to free birth control? I don't remember reading that in the Constitution. Here my government is forcing insurance companies into this shit which results in my health insurance increasing. Government needs to get the fuck out of private business.
I don't think people should have the right to get skiing and other voluntary sports accidents covered by insurance. All it does it drive up the costs of my coverage.

I've known dozens of idiots who have had sports accidents costing $50k, 100K, 125K to get fixed - and I have to pay for it.

I've never had a major sports accident requiring hospitalization - and i was a martial arts addict for years. Why should I pay for other people who are careless and shouldn't be messing about in things they aren't prepared for?

I have relatives - one rich asshole smashed into a tree skiing and the whole thing cost over 200K, the other family has a kid who has had over 500k in proceedures for fucking rugby injuries. Rugby - you've got to be kidding, right - no, fucking rugby in college.

You get the government to outlaw voluntary sports coverage, make people pay extra for that shit, keep the costs of it off my insurance, and I'll support your otherwise unfair desire to keep women from getting birth control paid for by insurance.

I also agree - we should give birth control out freely, pills should be an over the counter medication, but you have to pay and get licencsed to have kids.

Heres a recent article arguing for over-the-counter birth control pills.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...a-postrel.html
Contrary to widespread belief, there?s no good reason that oral contraceptives -- a far more effective form of birth control -- can?t be equally convenient.

True, making the pill available over the counter could reduce the amount of outrage and invective available for entertaining radio audiences, spurring political fundraising and otherwise amusing the American public. But the medical risks are quite low.

Partly because birth-control pills are available only by prescription, people tend to think they?re more dangerous and less well understood than they actually are. In fact, ?more is known about the safety of oral contraceptives than has been known about any other drug in the history of medicine,? declared an editorial in the American Journal of Public Health back in 1993. That editorial accompanied an article arguing for over-the-counter sales.

12clicks 04-04-2012 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 18750453)
I guess it wouldn't be an issue if the Church would stop forcing a womens choice through massive social/church pressure and all the other crap they do, basically ripping away her freedoms, all in the name of religion.

Big bad Obama standing up for Women...

I agree with anything that makes any church have to get up some of its money... actually, I don't think a church should be allowed to make any profit, all money should be given back to the community... god simply doesn't need it.

P.S. If a women qualifies for assistance, she qualifies for birth control - but not if she is a member some churches, as they take that "social" responsibly, to ensure her choices are 'correct' in the name of that religion.
ahhhh, the idiot speaks.
funny how some people in this industry have no concept of the first amendment.

pimpmaster9000 04-04-2012 12:05 PM
The stupidest move mankind has EVER made was to stop natural selection and make rich, successful people pay for other peoples irresponsible breeding.

If you are poor and can not afford to fully finance your family= you do not deserve to have a child at the expense of somebody else period!

I would introduce mandatory jail for poor parents who have kids and cant pay. Hard labor stuff. The kids I would give away for adoption. I would not blink about sending them to jail, like they do not blink about taking other peoples money. These parasites do not give 2 shits about society and live under the illusion the world owes their stupidity something. They are IMO worse scum than criminals, because criminals, at least, actually go and do some work (crime).

This birth control stuff is like curing cancer with an aspirin. The problem is not in birth control, it is in human greed and lazyness and politicians scoring easy points with the bible slapper skitzos...


Shit id make it mandatory to get sterilized before you take your first welfare check....

porno jew 04-04-2012 12:08 PM
by your logic you should have been aborted you third would faggot.

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 18866488)
The stupidest move mankind has EVER made was to stop natural selection and make rich, successful people pay for other peoples irresponsible breeding.

If you are poor and can not afford to fully finance your family= you do not deserve to have a child at the expense of somebody else period!

I would introduce mandatory jail for poor parents who have kids and cant pay. Hard labor stuff. The kids I would give away for adoption. I would not blink about sending them to jail, like they do not blink about taking other peoples money. These parasites do not give 2 shits about society and live under the illusion the world owes their stupidity something. They are IMO worse scum than criminals, because criminals, at least, actually go and do some work (crime).

This birth control stuff is like curing cancer with an aspirin. The problem is not in birth control, it is in human greed and lazyness and politicians scoring easy points with the bible slapper skitzos...


Shit id make it mandatory to get sterilized before you take your first welfare check....

GregE 04-04-2012 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18750719)
I don't see it as so much of a cost issue as a version issue. It seems to me that forcing the Catholic church, for example, to pay for the morning after pill is kind of like forcing the ACLU to pay for Fred Phelps' projects.

That's just the tip very tip of the iceberg, though. We chose a health plan that we can afford (barely) parky because it doesn't convert acupuncture, aromatherapy, and a lot of other crap. We had the freedom to decide what coverage we wanted to buy. We're nite allowed to keep it after 2012 because Obama and the interest groups lobbying in Washington don't longer it. They are telling us we must pay 50% more for a policy that covers acupuncture and crap. Urned a freedom issue, an issue of whether you and I make our own decisions or if Washington runs our lives.
It's like the other guy said. You can pay now for free birth control, or you can pay later for more jail cells and more welfare checks.

The smart choice strikes me as being painfully obvious.

pimpmaster9000 04-04-2012 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18866492)
by your logic you should have been aborted you third would faggot.
poser jew, my country was quite well off when I was born, you could buy a german car from 2 average salaries...

now go back to your one line "know it all" poser posts and keep pretending you are in the porn biz and not just a traffic geek :thumbsup

Grapesoda 04-04-2012 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Choker (Post 18750352)
SO now Obama is trying to save face. Heard a spokesman say that every woman has the right to free birth control. WTF is going on in this country. Every woman has the right to free birth control? I don't remember reading that in the Constitution. Here my government is forcing insurance companies into this shit which results in my health insurance increasing. Government needs to get the fuck out of private business.
pay for birth control or pay to house and feed and eventually put the little bastards in prison :2 cents:

Elli 04-04-2012 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18750383)
This is where my grandmother would say "birth control is free and every woman does have a right to it! Abstinence!"
That wasn't true in her day. It was a woman's obligation to please her husband when he asked. And so a man can have sex all he wants, but it's up to the woman to abstain to avoid pregnancy? Come on...

Easy/cheap birth control was the catalyst that enabled women to enroll at post-secondary institutions and focus on careers because they could choose to put off motherhood until later. If you want to remove women from the workplace and especially management positions, go ahead and remove the access to birth control.

GregE 04-04-2012 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mchacal (Post 18862362)
I support mandatory permits to have kids:thumbsup
When you consider that nowadays people can't even go fishing or sell pretzels on a street corner without a permit; what you say makes perfect sense.

Of course, such a law would be totally unenforceable short of adopting the sort of measures that Chairman Mao favored.

12clicks 04-04-2012 01:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 18866488)
The stupidest move mankind has EVER made was to stop natural selection and make rich, successful people pay for other peoples irresponsible breeding.

If you are poor and can not afford to fully finance your family= you do not deserve to have a child at the expense of somebody else period!

I would introduce mandatory jail for poor parents who have kids and cant pay. Hard labor stuff. The kids I would give away for adoption. I would not blink about sending them to jail, like they do not blink about taking other peoples money. These parasites do not give 2 shits about society and live under the illusion the world owes their stupidity something. They are IMO worse scum than criminals, because criminals, at least, actually go and do some work (crime).

This birth control stuff is like curing cancer with an aspirin. The problem is not in birth control, it is in human greed and lazyness and politicians scoring easy points with the bible slapper skitzos...


Shit id make it mandatory to get sterilized before you take your first welfare check....
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