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Old 02-06-2003, 01:20 PM   #1
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Why should we trust America?

Why should we trust america's 'prove' this time?

in 91 the public was convinced that the war is right and just because of a little girl testifing in congress about the murder of kuwaiti babies. The public was even shown videos of iraqi soldiers removing babies from incubators therby killing them.
Later it turned out that the little girl was the daughter of the Iraqi ambasserdor to the US and the tape was produced in a TV studio in London.
The Saudis were convinced that they need to accept US troops in their country because they were told that Iraq moved forces to the Saudi border and was gonna attack them. As it turned out later that was a lie as well.

The public agreed to the war in Kosovo because we were shown pictures of alleged concentration camps and we were told of huge number of refugees. After the war it turned out that these camps never existed, the number of refuges was like a third of what we were told before the war. Furthermore we soon learned that the Albanians were just as bad as the serbs when they tried to start another war in Macedonia.

So even if all the proof is true - I think Iraq has chemical weapons but the Al-Quaida connection is just pure bullshit - why should we believe the american administration this time?
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Old 02-06-2003, 01:22 PM   #2
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Because we have no choice?..WTF they might start sending bombs over to us
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Old 02-06-2003, 01:25 PM   #3
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You shouldn't.

You should believe Saddam.
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Old 02-07-2003, 12:20 AM   #4
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Hes right. Saddam has so much more credibility.
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Old 02-07-2003, 12:21 AM   #5
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You shouldn't.

You should believe Saddam.
good answer.
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Old 02-07-2003, 12:22 AM   #6
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Truth is, we don't give a fuck what you believe
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Old 02-07-2003, 12:23 AM   #7
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You should believe Saddam.
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Old 02-07-2003, 12:23 AM   #8
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Ahaha.

Weigh the options man. The United States or Iraq. No matter how much you dislike the United States, how could you possibly believe Iraq before the United States.

Iraq has little to lose by lying. The United States has too much to lose.
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Old 02-07-2003, 12:34 AM   #9
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At first I was thinking that the Europeans would finally get a clue. Now I believe they never will. I think by nature they are indecisive.
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Old 02-07-2003, 12:40 AM   #10
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So even if all the proof is true -- why should we believe the american administration this time?
Even if all the proof is true? Dood, if all the proof is true, then why WOULDN'T you support the US??

Duhwuhuh???
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I think Iraq has chemical weapons but the Al-Quaida connection is just pure bullshit
What proof of that theory do you have? huh...... none?
It's just what you "think"?



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Old 02-07-2003, 12:45 AM   #11
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Why so much of a need for proof. We all know the underlying agenda is the oil. So whats it matter anyway.
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Old 02-07-2003, 12:47 AM   #12
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Why does the rest of the world think we really give a shit if they believe us?

We don't. Really.

God bless the USA - protecting the world from itself.

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Old 02-07-2003, 12:48 AM   #13
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Amazing. Truly amazing. The US has intelligence sources in Iraq that have been there for decades, planted and sending back vital information. They have spy satellites monitoring Iraq, they have CIA agents over there, even some Iraqi civilians supplying them information......all of which points to the data that Powell announced as being true and correct.....

...yet some guy named "pornmeister" over in Hellholeskia Europe, or maybe he's in Canada somewhere, I don't know..... says he "thinks" that there are no links between Iraq and Al Quaida.


Well, that's it then. No reason to doubt Saddam at all. Sorry USA, there will be no war. Pornmeister "THINKS" there is no reason for it. Oh well. There's always Korea.
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Old 02-07-2003, 12:48 AM   #14
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Truth is, we don't give a fuck what you believe

Who is 'we' dumbfuck.
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Old 02-07-2003, 12:53 AM   #15
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PornMeister talks about Kosovo and Bosnia...but if we go back and time and remember: The Yugoslavian wars were going on in Europe's back yard, and they did nothing. We stepped in and blasted the Serbs...soon it was over...can you refute that?
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Old 02-07-2003, 01:02 AM   #16
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Who is 'we' dumbfuck.
We as in most us who really don't give a fuck what the rest of the world thinks.

You really think America gives a fuck what the UN, or the world, thinks? It's a nice charade until we get our troops in place and then we will do what we need to defend ourselves.
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Old 02-07-2003, 01:08 AM   #17
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Why does the rest of the world think we really give a shit if they believe us?

We don't. Really.

God bless the USA - protecting the world from itself.

You're welcome!
Jace,
Sometimes I try to debate.

Most of the time the incredible ignorance is too much to bear.
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Old 02-07-2003, 01:11 AM   #18
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You really think America gives a fuck what the UN, or the world, thinks?
As a matter of fact, yes.... yes I do.
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It's a nice charade until we get our troops in place and then we will do what we need to defend ourselves.
Thankfully, not all Americans think like you. Being patriotic is one thing. Being a snide elitist smartass is another.

Thing is, most people who think like you seem to forget that you didn't have a choice of what country you were born in. None of us did. You are LUCKY to be born in a country that upholds the kind of freedoms you enjoy, it wasn't your God-given RIGHT to be born there dude. You weren't pre-destined to be better than other humans, trust me.

So stuff the "we don't give a shit about you" attitude.


The American government & military obviously DOES care a great deal about how the rest of the world perceives you, otherwise they'd have invaded Iraq months ago.
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Old 02-07-2003, 01:13 AM   #19
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The American government & military obviously DOES care a great deal about how the rest of the world perceives you, otherwise they'd have invaded Iraq months ago.
amen. i don't think enough people realize this.
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It gets old real fucking fast. Especially when you dealing with halfwits, and conspiracey freaks.
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Old 02-07-2003, 01:17 AM   #21
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Why should we trust america's 'prove' this time?

in 91 the public was convinced that the war is right and just because of a little girl testifing in congress about the murder of kuwaiti babies. The public was even shown videos of iraqi soldiers removing babies from incubators therby killing them.
Later it turned out that the little girl was the daughter of the Iraqi ambasserdor to the US and the tape was produced in a TV studio in London.
The Saudis were convinced that they need to accept US troops in their country because they were told that Iraq moved forces to the Saudi border and was gonna attack them. As it turned out later that was a lie as well.

The public agreed to the war in Kosovo because we were shown pictures of alleged concentration camps and we were told of huge number of refugees. After the war it turned out that these camps never existed, the number of refuges was like a third of what we were told before the war. Furthermore we soon learned that the Albanians were just as bad as the serbs when they tried to start another war in Macedonia.

So even if all the proof is true - I think Iraq has chemical weapons but the Al-Quaida connection is just pure bullshit - why should we believe the american administration this time?
What the fuck does any of that matter, its our fuckin oil!
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Old 02-07-2003, 01:18 AM   #22
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Each country is force fed it's own propaganda. It's up to you to formulate your own opinions on the matters at hand...

But just remember: At the end of the day, whatever you think doesn't matter to the overall picture. The dickheads are going to fight with each other using it's nation's pawns no matter what.
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It gets old real fucking fast. Especially when you dealing with halfwits, and conspiracey freaks.
It got old weeks ago, but I can't sleep and I've simply (sadly) got nothing better to do right now.


Maybe I'll go watch Elimidate. :D
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