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  • eroticsexxx
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2006
    • 3133
    #31
    Originally posted by Paul Markham
    What will FB currency do?
    When Online Gambling is made legal once again in the US, buy Zynga's stock if you can get your hands on it in some form or fashion. That is just one of many profitable channels for Facebook credits that is impending.

    Facebook Credits will deal a serious blow to Paypal. Trust that.

    Originally posted by Paul Markham
    This is like betting on cards or horses, it's gambling.
    While this assertion is loosely correct, there are varying factors in this case. The Facebook scenario is being calculated carefully and one has to watch all of the pieces of the financial puzzle to see what exactly is happening.

    Last year one of my offshore investment clients recommended that I pay closer attention to what was happening with the company after I brought it up in passing conversation. I was sceptical at first as well, but I'm beginning to see what he was implying.
    Last edited by eroticsexxx; 02-02-2012, 07:25 AM.

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      • DamianJ
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jul 2006
        • 15808
        #32
        Originally posted by porno jew
        zuck is still going to retain plenty of control.
        I imagine Steve Jobs thought that too, until he was sacked from the company he started.

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          • alextokyo
            So Fucking Banned
            • Sep 2011
            • 975
            #33
            the fuck are they going public again? Beyond making a few key people rich, as far as investing in social networking goes... all I can picture is a bus full of passengers driving off a cliff...

            Until Warren Buffet has his top guys creating GFY accounts, the opinions in this thread are worth as much as they cost, and that includes mine.

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              • DamianJ
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jul 2006
                • 15808
                #34
                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                What will FB currency do?
                Revolutionise online payments. You think paypal is big? Just wait.

                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                I don't think some bright college kid is the best person to run a multi billion dollar company. Maybe share holders will find someone better.
                I agree. He'll be out.

                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                As for buying, it depends on the price. This is like betting on cards or horses, it's gambling.
                AFAIK, all stocks are gambling, aren't they?

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                  • eroticsexxx
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 3133
                    #35
                    Originally posted by DamianJ
                    I imagine Steve Jobs thought that too, until he was sacked from the company he started.
                    Flawed comparison.

                    Jobs was running Apple into the ground and made serious mistakes in leading the company at that time.

                    He needed to be fired.

                    On the other hand, Zuckerberg led Facebook to where it is today. The IPO is being made based on the products of his leadership and their ongoing potential.

                    Any attempt to cast him out as a primary element of the equation when the company shows nothing but growth potential, even in the face of privacy and interface complaints, would be shooting themselves in the foot.

                    It surely would not happen on Morgan Stanley's watch. Changing the roles and responsibilities of the CEO of a solid investment shortly after pushing the IPO automatically poisons confidence in said investment. The clients would be furious as to why they were not informed that the leadership configuration was going to be modified in such a manner before they made the investment. Morgan Stanley would not deal in such frivolousness.
                    Last edited by eroticsexxx; 02-02-2012, 07:53 AM.

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                      • DamianJ
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 15808
                        #36
                        Originally posted by eroticsexxx
                        Flawed comparison.

                        Jobs was running Apple into the ground and made serious mistakes in leading the company at that time.

                        He needed to be fired.

                        On the other hand Zuckerberg led Facebook to where it is today. The IPO is being made based on the products of his leadership and their ongoing potential.

                        Any attempt to cast him out as a primary element of the equation when the company shows nothing but growth potential, even in the face of privacy and interface complaints, would be shooting themselves in the foot.

                        It surely would not happen on Morgan Stanley's watch. Changing the CEO of a solid investment shortly after pushing the IPO automatically poisons confidence in said investment. The clients would be furious as to why they were not informed that the CEO was going to be changed before they made the investment. Morgan Stanley would not deal in such frivolousness.
                        I didn't say 'shortly' afterwards.

                        After the IPO they will have a legal duty to make as much money as possible for the shareholders.

                        Zuck doesn't like intrusive ads. He doesn't like 'fucking' with what works. However, what works isn't making as much money as he could.

                        I give it a year.

                        Apple was 3 weeks away from going bankrupt when Jobs returned. Now it's the largest company in the world according to marcap. Think on't.

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                          • stocktrader23
                            Let's do some business.
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 18781
                            #37
                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                            What will FB currency do?

                            I don't think some bright college kid is the best person to run a multi billion dollar company. Maybe share holders will find someone better.

                            The "targeted" advertising as far as I see is Geo targeting. All the ads I see are in Czech and absolutely of no interest to me. Maybe they will start targeting on the keyboard and computer settings. Then do some testing to see what I am interested in.

                            As for buying, it depends on the price. This is like betting on cards or horses, it's gambling.
                            You are so far out of touch it's almost impossibly to believe. The one and ONLY reason Facebook is where it is today is Zuckerberg. That 'college kid' knows what in the fuck he's doing and like DJ said, they throw a stick in his spokes and Facebook will lose popularity and value.

                            Glad to see you have suggestions even for Facebook though, one of these companies should hire you so you can show them how the billions they clear is wrong.

                            Hey Paul, if he charged all of his members $10 per month to be on the site they would bring in a whopping $96 million a year extra!


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                              • DamianJ
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 15808
                                #38
                                Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                You are so far out of touch it's almost impossibly to believe. The one and ONLY reason Facebook is where it is today is Zuckerberg. That 'college kid' knows what in the fuck he's doing and like DJ said, they throw a stick in his spokes and Facebook will lose popularity and value.

                                Glad to see you have suggestions even for Facebook though, one of these companies should hire you so you can show them how the billions they clear is wrong.

                                Hey Paul, if he charged all of his members $10 per month to be on the site they would bring in a whopping $96 million a year extra!
                                We all know Paul values a company based on the number of lavatories they have.

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                                  • eroticsexxx
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2006
                                    • 3133
                                    #39
                                    Originally posted by DamianJ
                                    I didn't say 'shortly' afterwards.

                                    After the IPO they will have a legal duty to make as much money as possible for the shareholders.

                                    Zuck doesn't like intrusive ads. He doesn't like 'fucking' with what works. However, what works isn't making as much money as he could.

                                    I give it a year.

                                    Apple was 3 weeks away from going bankrupt when Jobs returned. Now it's the largest company in the world according to marcap. Think on't.
                                    I understand the point you're attempting to make, but the advertising revenue isn't what investors are banking on.

                                    Facebook is looking to become the leading micropayment provider of the world, among other things. The integration of that, along with detailed demographic data and the social networking/communication layers (skype included), is what will drive Facebook's future growth.

                                    Yes, they have done extremely well with advertising, but there is an opportunity for them to evolve that revenue generator beyond what even Google has done with it. Zuckerberg has a focused plan of what he will need to do to make this happen.

                                    Zuckerberg is untouchable at this point, as long as he remains consistent in his planning and vision. Thus Facebook indeed will offer a significant return on investment. Removing the heart of the company (Zuckerberg) soon after its IPO would kill it faster than anything else.
                                    Last edited by eroticsexxx; 02-02-2012, 08:20 AM.

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                                      • stocktrader23
                                        Let's do some business.
                                        • Jan 2003
                                        • 18781
                                        #40
                                        Originally posted by DamianJ
                                        We all know Paul values a company based on the number of lavatories they have.
                                        I should have used Paul math. I forgot when you turn a free service paid you don't lose traffic so $10 per month would be 96 billion dollars a year. No way they'd lose 99% of their users.


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                                          • alextokyo
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Sep 2011
                                            • 975
                                            #41
                                            Originally posted by stocktrader23
                                            You are so far out of touch it's almost impossibly to believe. The one and ONLY reason Facebook is where it is today is Zuckerberg.
                                            Well, to be honest, it is pretty tough to accept that a 27 year old Rodney Trotter lookalike has an estimated net worth of $25 billion, whilst your lifetime of shooting shitty overlit vanilla "content" for a very dead and long-gone Paul Raymond led to you having fuck all to your name besides yellow teeth, the equivalent of a $150/week pension, and a quickly aging mail-order bride with a bad accent.

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                                              • WarChild
                                                Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                • Jan 2003
                                                • 17263
                                                #42
                                                Originally posted by alextokyo
                                                Well, to be honest, it is pretty tough to accept that a 27 year old Rodney Trotter lookalike has an estimated net worth of $25 billion, whilst your lifetime of shooting shitty overlit vanilla "content" for a very dead and long-gone Paul Raymond led to you having fuck all to your name besides yellow teeth, the equivalent of a $150/week pension, and a quickly aging mail-order bride with a bad accent.
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                                                  • PR_Glen
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Oct 2006
                                                    • 9058
                                                    #43
                                                    Originally posted by eroticsexxx
                                                    I understand the point you're attempting to make, but the advertising revenue isn't what investors are banking on.

                                                    Facebook is looking to become the leading micropayment provider of the world, among other things. The integration of that, along with detailed demographic data and the social networking/communication layers (skype included), is what will drive Facebook's future growth.

                                                    Yes, they have done extremely well with advertising, but there is an opportunity for them to evolve that revenue generator beyond what even Google has done with it. Zuckerberg has a focused plan of what he will need to do to make this happen.

                                                    Zuckerberg is untouchable at this point, as long as he remains consistent in his planning and vision. Thus Facebook indeed will offer a significant return on investment. Removing the heart of the company (Zuckerberg) soon after its IPO would kill it faster than anything else.
                                                    this has probably been the best explanation as to what their plans for the future are that I have read, definitely on here.

                                                    micro payments to what though? I don't know many people who use facebook to shop, but even if they did that is nothing new. ebay and amazon have been doing this for years and those stocks aren't exploding for anyone. Whats the key difference here? If anything those two are more targeted because all their traffic is from people who want to buy stuff already.
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                                                      • a.miles
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Feb 2011
                                                        • 114
                                                        #44
                                                        I won't
                                                        It's overvalued so that all those who have been putting money since few years ago cash out at generous returns.

                                                        I see it going either all the way up or all the way down, therefore what i might do is get into a long straddle or a long strangle. This way i'll only loose if the price remains within the strike and the premiums paid. Thinking about it...

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                                                          • BareBacked
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2007
                                                            • 3685
                                                            #45
                                                            Originally posted by Evil Chris
                                                            Hopefully this is what KILLS Facebook and people will all start spending time on other sites on the web. Like porn sites.
                                                            LOL. I like your thinking but I cant see it happening.

                                                            They can meet real chicks to bang all day on FB
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