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  • Michael O
    More Cowbell
    • Jul 2001
    • 10607

    #46
    I am sorry but what MC and Visa wants, they get. Do a search here on Visa and MasterCard. We do everything by the book and if MC wants some information on your index page & join page then we have to do it. I am sorry but we won't cut corners, we are here to provide a cheap good solution.
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    • vdbucks
      Monger Cash
      • Jul 2010
      • 2773

      #47
      Originally posted by Barefootsies
      You make a graphic, or a disclaimer that tells the clients you have cascade billing.

      You mention all of the different processing companies you use. Additionally, you tell them if there is a problem with their card, you may go through an alternate processing company. Most porn buyers should be familiar with this by now, with many porn websites.

      You are not reinventing the wheel sport.

      We already do this on all of the pages where it is absolutely necessary as actually required by mastercard and visa. As in my previous reply, MC and Visa has already approved our site through our other processors. Which means there is absolutely no need to go junking up our entire site with unecessary info.

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      • Barefootsies
        Choice is an Illusion
        • Feb 2005
        • 42635

        #48
        Originally posted by vdbucks
        Let me clue you in.. changes like this in business are retroactive. When requirements change, there is no grandfather clause that says "oh, well these sites were already approved so they don't need to follow the new regs".
        Really? Well I used to get gasoline for less than a dollar. Perhaps I should tell them that I am 'grandfathered in' next time I need to fill up.

        Oh wait, next time I get a disclaimer from my credit card company telling me they are adding a new fee, or raising my interest rate, I should tell them someone on GFY says I am 'grandfathered in' and they can'd do that.

        Originally posted by vdbucks
        this is NOT an actual requirement by MC, in which they claim it is.
        You do know that Zombaio is not a U.S. based company right? That there are different rules, and fees, for different regions when it comes to VISA and MC? That they can different from the U.S. region versus the Europe region right hoss?

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        • vdbucks
          Monger Cash
          • Jul 2010
          • 2773

          #49
          Originally posted by Michael O
          I am sorry but what MC and Visa wants, they get. Do a search here on Visa and MasterCard. We do everything by the book and if MC wants some information on your index page & join page then we have to do it. I am sorry but we won't cut corners, we are here to provide a cheap good solution.
          So then tell me, why have MC and Visa already approved our site for payment processing for our other accounts?

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          • Michael O
            More Cowbell
            • Jul 2001
            • 10607

            #50
            Originally posted by vdbucks
            Well, if we didn't have so many rebills processing through them then we just might... but considering we have a ton of active rebills through them, and a 1:1 retention ratio, it wouldn't make much sense to completely drop them at this stage. And they do come in handy on days when our other processors seem slow.

            Not to mention, none of our other 5 sites that process through them have this info on the index page. Nor was it ever required in the past or present for those sites. Nor were we ever notified of this change in requirements. Yet all of a sudden it's a requirement.. a requirement they can't figure out who made.
            Its grand fathered in, old sites do not have to add the code its only for new sites.
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            • Barefootsies
              Choice is an Illusion
              • Feb 2005
              • 42635

              #51
              Fiddy beers to cry in.



              Originally posted by vdbucks
              Which means there is absolutely no need to go junking up our entire site with unecessary info.
              You will DO exactly what your merchant bank/payment processor overlords tell you to do, or you will not process with them. It is pretty simple, and you are not going to get them to change their policy. Just as you are not going to get CCB to drop the VISA $750.00 fee.

              If you do not like it, do not use them.

              Last edited by Barefootsies; 01-31-2012, 06:52 AM.
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              • vdbucks
                Monger Cash
                • Jul 2010
                • 2773

                #52
                Originally posted by Barefootsies
                Really? Well I used to get gasoline for less than a dollar. Perhaps I should tell them that I am 'grandfathered in' next time I need to fill up.

                Oh wait, next time I get a disclaimer from my credit card company telling me they are adding a new fee, or raising my interest rate, I should tell them someone on GFY says I am 'grandfathered in' and they can'd do that.
                You should learn to read and find better analogies that are actually comparable to the original statement.



                Originally posted by Barefootsies
                You do know that Zombaio is not a U.S. based company right? That there are different rules, and fees, for different regions when it comes to VISA and MC? That they can different from the U.S. region versus the Europe region right hoss?

                Go back and read man... I've said it a dozen times.. Zombaio says it's a requirement by mastercard. They even linked to Mastercards requirement document.. and in said document there is no such requirement.

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                • Barefootsies
                  Choice is an Illusion
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 42635

                  #53
                  Originally posted by vdbucks
                  Zombaio says it's a requirement by mastercard. They even linked to Mastercards requirement document.. and in said document there is no such requirement.
                  I've said it a dozen times. Learn to read champ.

                  If you do not like it, do not use them.

                  Should You Email Your Members?

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                  Enough Said.

                  "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                  • vdbucks
                    Monger Cash
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 2773

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Barefootsies
                    Fiddy beers to cry in.





                    You will DO exactly what your merchant bank/payment processor overlords tell you to do, or you will not process with them. It is pretty simple, and you are not going to get them to change their policy. Just as you are not going to get CCB to drop the VISA $750.00 fee.

                    If you do not like it, do not use them.

                    If they don't approve our site as it stands then you are certainly right, we will not process through them because it's not an actual requirement and therefore will will not junk up our pages with it.

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                    • Barefootsies
                      Choice is an Illusion
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 42635

                      #55
                      Originally posted by vdbucks
                      If they don't approve our site as it stands then you are certainly right
                      Should You Email Your Members?

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                      Enough Said.

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                      • Fletch XXX
                        GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 60840

                        #56
                        if a company you use service for lies about terms..... who can you believe?

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                        • vdbucks
                          Monger Cash
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 2773

                          #57
                          And the ccbill fee has been there for as long as we've been in business and probably a lot longer.. It's not some fictional thing they added overnight then blamed on visa when visa doesn't actually require it...

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                          • Barefootsies
                            Choice is an Illusion
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 42635

                            #58
                            Originally posted by vdbucks
                            And the ccbill fee has been there for as long as we've been in business and probably a lot longer.. It's not some fictional thing they added overnight then blamed on visa when visa doesn't actually require it...
                            ...and yet Verotel's VISA fee is $1500.00 (last checked) instead of $750.00.



                            I guess I should make a thread on GFY calling them 'scammers', and go on a witch hunt.

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                            • vdbucks
                              Monger Cash
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 2773

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Barefootsies
                              ...and yet Verotel's VISA fee is $1500.00 (last checked) instead of $750.00.



                              I guess I should make a thread on GFY calling them 'scammers', and go on a witch hunt.

                              Pretty sure verotel's fee was only $750 as well when we opened our account with them...

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                              • Dirty F
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jul 2001
                                • 59204

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                That is a little too complicated for the princess.

                                He would much rather make a gideongallery Federal case out of it.


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