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Old 01-25-2012, 03:39 PM   #1
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What does this say about Obama and his followers?

State of the Union registers at 8th grade reading level

"The University of Minnesota's Smart Politics conducted an analysis on the last 70 State of the Union addresses and found that President Obama's three addresses have the lowest grade average of any modern president."

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2...el-112236.html
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:41 PM   #2
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He was probably talking down knowing that there are so many idiots out there who need the help to understand simple concepts.
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:42 PM   #3
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That's about the level you're really at when you graduate high school here.
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:47 PM   #4
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i don't get people who live there lives by politics and post threads like this. really all politicians will lie to you they're human. we're a bunch of adult webmaster that lie and con surfers into signup to sites for a living. who gives a fuck, just vote for the guy that won't fuck over the internet. And as of now obama seems to be okay with not wanting to censor everything

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Old 01-25-2012, 03:48 PM   #5
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Ah a Ron Paul supporter. LOL
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I've always believed that "smart talk" is overrated. If the mass populace can't understand you, are you really that great of an orator?
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you read political journalism all day and they are written at lower than that level so fuck off.
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State of the Union registers at 8th grade reading level

"The University of Minnesota's Smart Politics conducted an analysis on the last 70 State of the Union addresses and found that President Obama's three addresses have the lowest grade average of any modern president."

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2...el-112236.html
University of Minnesota's Smart Politics ????
and whos funding that? what else have the published? GW bush had more intelligent things to say in his addresses? yeah I'm buying that one............
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University of Minnesota's Smart Politics ????
and whos funding that? what else have the published? GW bush had more intelligent things to say in his addresses? yeah I'm buying that one............
"About the Center

Under the leadership of nationally prominent political scientist Lawrence Jacobs, the Center for the Study of Politics and Governance develops practical, independent, and non-partisan solutions to pressing political and policy challenges. Founded in 2005, CSPG fosters effective and efficient governance, increases the transparency of government processes, and rebuilds the public trust in order to counteract negative influences that threaten our democracy."

http://www.hhh.umn.edu/centers/cspg/index.php#
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That's why so many are enchanted with him and his teleprompter speeches.

America has been dumbed down and is full of idiots now who don't know much about anything. But they can work, pay taxes, vote, and be obedient. That's all that matters.
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Who gives a shit, he won again already.

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what ? as opposed to george bush ?

lol what a fucking loser you must be
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"The University of Minnesota's Smart Politics conducted an analysis on the last 70 State of the Union addresses and found that President Obama's three addresses have the lowest grade average of any modern president."
Key words here being "University of Minnesota". Because, you know, that's one of the top ten universities in.... Minnesota.

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i don't get people who live there lives by politics and post threads like this. really all politicians will lie to you they're human. we're a bunch of adult webmaster that lie and con surfers into signup to sites for a living. who gives a fuck, just vote for the guy that won't fuck over the internet. And as of now obama seems to be okay with not wanting to censor everything
It's rather comical really. It seems to me that you believe in one side one side only, and everything your side says is always right and everything the other side says is always wrong. No one seems to understand exactly how stupid they look.
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GW bush had more intelligent things to say in his addresses? yeah I'm buying that one............

The study didn't analyze whether what he said was intelligent. It's a reading COMPREHENSION analysis, not a "this guy is smart" analysis. It analyzed what grade level education you'd need to understand his words. Lots of short, simple words versus longer, more nuanced words. In other words, Obama spoke as though he were talking to idiots, more Dr. Seus words, compared to previous presidents whose speeches were aimed at more educated people. Speak of reading comprehension ...

It's not surprising. Obama has a populist message and in 2008 a lot of his votes were from people who never voted before and people with little interest in or knowledge of politics. It only stands to reason that he would again try to energize the same people. Many of those supporters would be lost if he started talking about debt to GDP ratio.

Ross Perot would be an interesting contrast. He DID talk about things like debt to GDP ratio, using charts to try to educate the electorate about the issues.

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The study didn't analyze whether what he said was intelligent. It's a reading COMPREHENSION analysis, not a "this guy is smart" analysis. It analyzed what grade level education you'd need to understand his words. Lots of short, simple words versus longer, more nuanced words. In other words, Obama spoke as though he were talking to idiots, more Dr. Seus words, compared to previous presidents whose speeches were aimed at more educated people. Speak of reading comprehension ...

It's not surprising. Obama has a populist message and in 2008 a lot of his votes were from people who never voted before and people with little interest in or knowledge of politics. It only stands to reason that he would again try to energize the same people. Many of those supporters would be lost if he started talking about debt to GDP ratio.

Ross Perot would be an interesting contrast. He DID talk about things like debt to GDP ratio, using charts to try to educate the electorate about the issues.
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:49 PM   #18
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BULLSHIT, no one would have a lower grad level than BUSH
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and that's a good thing, it's one of Obama's strengths, he talks no differently than the average joe with a high school education.

when I go looking for quotations it always occurs to me that politicians and anybody else in society in older generations put a lot of time crafting these fancy quotes about anything and everything - more to impress than anything else.

i admire writers and orators - they can be inspiring but i don't really need or want it from politicians. the only time it's an asset is when emotion is needed to stir up support - a campaign speech, a victory speech or a we're going to war speech.

say what you want about Dubya but after 9/11 when he spoke to the nation and the world and concluded with 'Let's roll' it was every bit as inspiring and impactful as anything Winston Churchill and his speech writers ever wrote during World War II.
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It says that you are sheep for worrying about trivial shit.
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The study didn't analyze whether what he said was intelligent. It's a reading COMPREHENSION analysis, not a "this guy is smart" analysis. It analyzed what grade level education you'd need to understand his words. Lots of short, simple words versus longer, more nuanced words. In other words, Obama spoke as though he were talking to idiots, more Dr. Seus words, compared to previous presidents whose speeches were aimed at more educated people. Speak of reading comprehension ...

It's not surprising. Obama has a populist message and in 2008 a lot of his votes were from people who never voted before and people with little interest in or knowledge of politics. It only stands to reason that he would again try to energize the same people. Many of those supporters would be lost if he started talking about debt to GDP ratio.

Ross Perot would be an interesting contrast. He DID talk about things like debt to GDP ratio, using charts to try to educate the electorate about the issues.
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Obama makes Bush sound at the very least, mildly retarded.
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BULLSHIT, no one would have a lower grad level than BUSH

What's a grad level and why does it not surprise me that you're an Obama supporter?

Funny thing is, as dumb as Bush is, John Kerry got a lower GPA than Bush did at Yale.
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Make fun of it all you want. It speaks volumes.
Dumbing down keeps you suppressed to the lowest common denominator. As opposed to making the dummy downs smart up.
Do you always like being talked to like you're an idiot?

Go on believing everything is fine and dandy, just don't come begging to be on a team that knows what they're up to when your ass is getting hauled off to foster the globalists
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