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fris 01-25-2012 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18712104)
The one and only. Who do you think put and probably still puts 1000s of videos on those tubes?




Yea, but they added WIN to their name. It's all good now.

only cause no bank wanted to deal with mansef, they were blacklisted

signupdamnit 01-25-2012 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kmill (Post 18712193)
If anything, the information being posted on this thread connects FileSonic to Mansef. It has nothing to do with Manwin.

All dates stated above pre-dates the sale of Mansef assets to Manwin. This is no proof of Manwin involvement.

Our official statement states the facts.

An individual with the name Bosco ICQ 322145026 or with the email [email protected] has never worked for Manwin.

I do not speak for GFY, but I believe they blocked the thread because it contained false allegations without proof ? which goes against the posting policies.

There was another thread which was not just locked but which was quickly deleted. Some other people here commented on it as well. In that thread another user shared the whois screen shot I linked to in my initial post. This is a different one entirely from the one which was earlier locked.

It would seem to me that there is a connection between Brazzers and Filesonic based on the available evidence. Namely that both were once owned by the same individuals at one time. The screen shot provided seems to provide evidence for this. There may in fact be some other connections but this remains to be seen. I believe personally it is a matter which should be investigated by the government and the media. I'm trying to do my part to help out in that effort as we speak.

I have no idea why the thread which preceded this one was deleted (not locked). It did give me the impression that perhaps someone was trying to hide the screenshot in question.

JFK 01-25-2012 05:59 PM

Fitty three screen shots:thumbsup fuck talk about missing by a mile :(

candyflip 01-25-2012 06:01 PM

http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/v...the-lock-3.jpg

V_RocKs 01-25-2012 06:14 PM

Makes me dizzy

HomerSimpson 01-25-2012 06:16 PM

you can pay at domaintools.com and get all whois history they have...

bns666 01-25-2012 06:21 PM

domaintools.com ftw :)

signupdamnit 01-25-2012 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wolbem (Post 18712215)
Good search term for info on this... Techboom which is the developing company behind Filesonic.

CEO of Techboom Wissam Alame(check Quora.com for the 2 people he is connected to and Linkedin as well)

There are some connections between Filesonic and Techboom for sure. Not only what you show but also other things like the Google+ profile of Filesonic friending Techboom employees. At least in the cache before they were all removed. :upsidedow

Hey look Montreal, Canada. You don't say.

ReggieDurango 01-25-2012 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmill (Post 18712193)
If anything, the information being posted on this thread connects FileSonic to Mansef. It has nothing to do with Manwin.

All dates stated above pre-dates the sale of Mansef assets to Manwin. This is no proof of Manwin involvement.

Our official statement states the facts.

An individual with the name Bosco ICQ 322145026 or with the email [email protected] has never worked for Manwin.

I do not speak for GFY, but I believe they blocked the thread because it contained false allegations without proof ? which goes against the posting policies.

1st post??!!??

bns666 01-25-2012 06:50 PM

what a bunch of bullshit like manwin never had to do anything with mansef.

BlackCrayon 01-25-2012 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wdsguy (Post 18712173)
Check out domaintools , they have past whois info/changes for a domain.

all the history for filesonic.com has now been removed. how convenient.

slavdogg 01-25-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 18711822)
You can look up old Whois through DomainTools.com

http://whois.domaintools.com/filesonic.com

wolbem 01-25-2012 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 18712263)
quora.com/Wissam-Alame/followers

Matt Keez and Ouis sam Yous sef? I don't get the connection. Who are they?

Looks like Matt Keez's profile pic on quora has changed from earlier today.
img235.imagevenue.com/loc418/th_555602777_mk_122_418lo.jpg

DWB 01-25-2012 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmill (Post 18712193)
If anything, the information being posted on this thread connects FileSonic to Mansef. It has nothing to do with Manwin.

All dates stated above pre-dates the sale of Mansef assets to Manwin. This is no proof of Manwin involvement.

Our official statement states the facts.

Quote:

Manwin, which owns Brazzers, has no relations - business or otherwise - to FileSonic, nor to any other file sharing sites. Any statement otherwise is a fabrication, and will be met with a swift response.
All of that stuff sounds vaguely familiar. Where have I heard this before?

Oh yes....

Quote:

For us, it would make no sense to own a site like that, the margins just dont justify the expense, and it would be 100% against the interests of our core business. - Brazzers
Quote:

JuggCash Kurt: Everything that goes on pornhub from other sites are embeded with watermarks and verified by our content managment dept, its not stealing

DarkJedi 01-26-2012 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bns666 (Post 18712423)
what a bunch of bullshit like manwin never had to do anything with mansef.

found this on one of the links in this thread

http://images.nymag.com/news/feature...0207_2_560.jpg

19teenporn 01-26-2012 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 18712263)
http://www.quora.com/Wissam-Alame/followers

Matt Keez and Ouis sam Yous sef? I don't get the connection. Who are they? :winkwink:

What the fuck is keez?

seeme 01-26-2012 01:07 AM

Very interesting thread thats for sure :1orglaugh

wdsguy 01-26-2012 01:32 AM

How long before this thread gets deleted.

borked 01-26-2012 01:50 AM

Jeez, you don't visit GFY for a few days and the drama llama has an epileptic fit.

DamageX 01-26-2012 02:00 AM

Whoa, the inquisitive minds of GFY detectives at work...

Tell you what, NOTHING is going to happen. Even if you dig up all the fucking dirt on Manwin, NOTHING is going to happen. This industry wasn't able to band together and legally take them out when they were small fry.

Do you think that, even if the industry did band together in the 11th hour, you'd be able to do anything now that they're the biggest fish in the pond? They probably have as much legal firepower as the tobacco companies, if not more. They'll own your asses in court and you'll go broke before they even break a sweat.

Gotta love GFY...

DarkJedi 01-26-2012 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 18712899)
Whoa, the inquisitive minds of GFY detectives at work...

Tell you what, NOTHING is going to happen. Even if you dig up all the fucking dirt on Manwin, NOTHING is going to happen. This industry wasn't able to band together and legally take them out when they were small fry.

Do you think that, even if the industry did band together in the 11th hour, you'd be able to do anything now that they're the biggest fish in the pond? They probably have as much legal firepower as the tobacco companies, if not more. They'll own your asses in court and you'll go broke before they even break a sweat.

Gotta love GFY...

You're right. But maybe if we just send all dug up info to the Feds, they can take it up from there.

Zarathustra 01-26-2012 05:13 AM

Best to forward any "fear mongering" to the Feds

mafia_man 01-26-2012 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 18711806)
And how do you know it's real?Could be photoshoped.

Register with domain tools and order a report. The cache most WHOIS data.

signupdamnit 01-26-2012 08:48 AM

Sent out a batch to media contacts this morning.

signupdamnit 01-26-2012 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 18713033)
You're right. But maybe if we just send all dug up info to the Feds, they can take it up from there.

Don't forget organizations like the MPAA as well. I was thinking that they might be very interested in the discussions between "Bosco" of the old Brazzers and aXXo.

If Manwin truly has no connections to these people then they have nothing to worry about. Regardless I think the matter deserves a little more attention at the very least.

PAR 01-26-2012 10:16 AM

*edited due to a small error*

Ok really all kinda grasping at straws here...

Old Whois info from before Manwin bought Mansef.
So let me guess you think that when someone sells an adult company they sell ever url/site they own even the non adult and non related ones.
Anyone that has been around long enough has there main projects and side projects outside thier adult projects that would not be sold along with the adult.
Making the connection to the new company Manwin is reaching when you dont know exactly what was sold.
Not to mention some post on some board from 2006. Again long before Manwin..
Anyone that worked with Brazzers when they first came up knows exactly who Bosco is and knows he left long before the sale of Mansef to do his own thing.

Tracking down projects that the old owners had going on and kept or new projects seems silly to hold the new owners in any way account able.
You don't need to like the old owners nor what they did or are doing now but this is like going after someone that owns a used car for a hit and run the last owner did.

Are we now going to also say that every project owned by anyone that worked for or was an owner of a company that sold to Manwin sold Manwin every URL/site they had?
And that everything they move on to is also connected to Manwin. And that if I or anyone else that works for a company starts something on the side or post messages that its 100% the comapnies doing. Come on were is the logic in that..

CaptainHowdy 01-26-2012 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18712343)
"in before the lock" elephant

:( ........

Fabien 01-26-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18711810)
what is that supposed to be?
fake address in ontario...fake postal code...with some montreal phone number

this could be anyone

Bingo

514 is the regional code for Montréal
h1h1h1 is usually given has an example zipcode only !

signupdamnit 01-26-2012 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAR (Post 18713577)
Ok really all kinda grasping at straws here...

Old Whois info from before Manwin bought Mansef.
So let me guess you think that when someone sells an adult company they sell ever url/site they own even the non adult and non related ones.
Anyone that has been around long enough has there main projects and side projects outside thier adult projects that would not be sold along with the adult.
Making the connection to the new company Manwin is reaching when you dont know exactly what was sold.
Not to mention some post on some board from 2006. Again long before Manwin..
Anyone that worked with Brazzers when they first came up knows exactly who Bosco is and knows he left long before the sale of Mansef to do his own thing.
He never worked for Manwin. was gone over a year before the sale and that he worked for themm and was not an owner.

Tracking down projects that the old owners had going on and kept or new projects seems silly to hold the new owners in any way account able.
You don't need to like the old owners nor what they did or are doing now but this is like going after someone that owns a used car for a hit and run the last owner did.

Are we now going to also say that every project owned by anyone that worked for or was an owner of a company that sold to Manwin sold Manwin every URL/site they had?
And that everything they move on to is also connected to Manwin. And that if I or anyone else that works for a company starts something on the side or post messages that its 100% the comapnies doing. Come on were is the logic in that..

So why was the first topic started by someone else with the old whois data immediately deleted (not just locked) then? Why is that information a threat and to whom?

Why 01-26-2012 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAR (Post 18713577)
*edited due to a small error*

Ok really all kinda grasping at straws here...

Old Whois info from before Manwin bought Mansef.
So let me guess you think that when someone sells an adult company they sell ever url/site they own even the non adult and non related ones.
Anyone that has been around long enough has there main projects and side projects outside thier adult projects that would not be sold along with the adult.
Making the connection to the new company Manwin is reaching when you dont know exactly what was sold.
Not to mention some post on some board from 2006. Again long before Manwin..
Anyone that worked with Brazzers when they first came up knows exactly who Bosco is and knows he left long before the sale of Mansef to do his own thing.

Tracking down projects that the old owners had going on and kept or new projects seems silly to hold the new owners in any way account able.
You don't need to like the old owners nor what they did or are doing now but this is like going after someone that owns a used car for a hit and run the last owner did.

Are we now going to also say that every project owned by anyone that worked for or was an owner of a company that sold to Manwin sold Manwin every URL/site they had?
And that everything they move on to is also connected to Manwin. And that if I or anyone else that works for a company starts something on the side or post messages that its 100% the comapnies doing. Come on were is the logic in that..

strong points raised in this post. IMHO. Business is rough like that, no one is required to disclose anything to outside parties, leaving them to speculate.

Paul Markham 01-26-2012 11:52 AM

Let's just step back and take a breather here.

How many of those posting have open, legit and accurate info on Whois? Yes that would catch a few out. Many hide behind domain sellers who keep info and I'll bet many register false addresses and false phone numbers, ever tried phoning some of the numbers given?

How many here really knows who owns most of the big programs? We think we know, we're told who owns it. That's not knowing and try using that info in court.

Billions are being taken online with a few or more being very shady and until someone comes in with a sledge hammer to crack this rock it will continue.

Paul Markham 01-26-2012 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 18712899)
Whoa, the inquisitive minds of GFY detectives at work..

http://www.insuranceage.co.uk/IMG/92...g%3F1259851533

This needs detectives with very powerful magnifying glasses. :1orglaugh

martinsc 01-26-2012 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 18712009)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

signupdamnit 01-26-2012 12:48 PM

I've done my part and sent out the info to a couple dozen media contacts. At the very least there should be a few more eyes looking out. I doubt I can tell the government anything they don't already know at this point. My own gut feeling is that there is a lot going on behind the scenes it's just hard to provide concrete evidence for it. Obviously whoever owns Filesonic right now feels they have a lot to lose-- whoever they might be.

To say that there is no connection to Manwin at all is in my opinion inaccurate. There most certainly is a connection at least in the fact that Brazzers/Mansef was connected to Filesonic and Manwin purchased Mansef. It seems strange to ban people for speaking the truth. When you purchase a company that creates a connection in some sense of the definition.

It seems to me that someone wanted desperately to initially hide the fact that Filesonic was once connected to Brazzers/Mansef at all. The proper response from an innocent party in my opinion would have been to clarify as the Manwin employee did in this thread. This was not done in the press release initially nor when the previous thread with the whois data was deleted.

kmill 01-26-2012 01:32 PM

We never asked for the original thread to be deleted. We have nothing to hide.
Just clarifying that Manwin has no affiliation to FileSonic or any other filesharing site.

mafia_man 01-26-2012 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmill (Post 18714098)
We never asked for the original thread to be deleted. We have nothing to hide.
Just clarifying that Manwin has no affiliation to FileSonic or any other filesharing site.

Do any of Manwin's parent companies or subsidiaries have or had business deals with FileSonic?

Dennis69 01-26-2012 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 18712899)
Whoa, the inquisitive minds of GFY detectives at work...

Tell you what, NOTHING is going to happen. Even if you dig up all the fucking dirt on Manwin, NOTHING is going to happen. This industry wasn't able to band together and legally take them out when they were small fry.

Do you think that, even if the industry did band together in the 11th hour, you'd be able to do anything now that they're the biggest fish in the pond? They probably have as much legal firepower as the tobacco companies, if not more. They'll own your asses in court and you'll go broke before they even break a sweat.

Gotta love GFY...

LOL Adult never does ANYTHING... other then dig it's own hole years ago!!!!

DarkJedi 01-26-2012 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mafia_man (Post 18714506)
Do any of Manwin's parent companies or subsidiaries have or had business deals with FileSonic?

Does a bear shit in the woods?

porno jew 01-26-2012 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmill (Post 18714098)
We never asked for the original thread to be deleted. We have nothing to hide.
Just clarifying that Manwin has no affiliation to FileSonic or any other filesharing site.

"In light of the above, Manwin requests GFY look into the thread started by ?bbm? and request the user prove their claim, or face immediate banning?as per the message board?s policy."

http://news.avn.com/articles/Manwin-...te-462485.html

DamageX 01-27-2012 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 18713033)
You're right. But maybe if we just send all dug up info to the Feds, they can take it up from there.

Sure. But Manwin is a Canadian business entity and there will be a legal clusterfuck to deal with them. Furthermore, this isn't retard Kim Shits the Feds will be dealing with, this is a well-organized company, who very likely has quite a few legal muscles on retainer. Furthermore, this is a company primarily dealing in online porn, which is far from the top priority for the Feds to deal with.

Besides, if the Feds had a case, don't you think they would've nailed Fabian's ass while he was in Vegas?

The best bet would be if they could somehow be linked to the some US politicians, ideally higher-ups, as there's a GOP primary going on and a presidential election coming up later this fall. If something like that can be dug up and forwarded to the mainstream media to pick up, then you got things moving.

DWB 01-27-2012 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18714743)
"In light of the above, Manwin requests GFY look into the thread started by ?bbm? and request the user prove their claim, or face immediate banning?as per the message board?s policy."

http://news.avn.com/articles/Manwin-...te-462485.html

I remember when they said they didn't own tubes.

Quote:

For us, it would make no sense to own a site like that, the margins just dont justify the expense, and it would be 100% against the interests of our core business
Then I remember them saying they can't control what goes on their site. Something Fabian has repeated. Yet at least at once time, they did. Considering people may load child, beast or rape porn, one can only assume they still have to. Otherwise there is no telling what would get uploaded.

Quote:

JuggCash Kurt: Everything that goes on pornhub from other sites are embeded with watermarks and verified by our content managment dept, its not stealing
A business built on lies is exactly that.

NetHorse 01-27-2012 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 18711802)
plan on spending the rest of the day gathering up media sources to hand it to along with some background details on the story.

I like where you're going with this, but if that screenshot is a fake and you're wrong, don't be surprised if you get slapped with a lawsuit. Those are some pretty strong allegations.

mikke 01-27-2012 05:43 AM

brazzersleaks dot com for sale!:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

signupdamnit 01-27-2012 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 18715321)
I like where you're going with this, but if that screenshot is a fake and you're wrong, don't be surprised if you get slapped with a lawsuit. Those are some pretty strong allegations.

You can sue anyone for anything. Winning is a different manner. In every message I've written I have been careful to specify that it is an alleged screen shot of the whois data and that they need to verify it. But they can try if they'd like. I would almost welcome it because then the relationship between Manwin and Mansef would become a documented legal issue as would the nature of any relationship between Mansef (and Manwin, if applicable) and Filesonic. It would be great press.

wolbem 01-27-2012 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 18715321)
I like where you're going with this, but if that screenshot is a fake and you're wrong, don't be surprised if you get slapped with a lawsuit. Those are some pretty strong allegations.

I didn't fake the screenshot. The whois history for Filesonic on DomainTools.com has been unavailable for close to a year now because of what that one record cache said.

The poster of the first thread, bbm, ended up with the same info from a different source.

fris 01-27-2012 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmill (Post 18714098)
We never asked for the original thread to be deleted. We have nothing to hide.
Just clarifying that Manwin has no affiliation to FileSonic or any other filesharing site.

how long have you been at manwin?

signupdamnit 01-27-2012 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 18715564)
how long have you been at manwin?

Yes welcome to GFY! First two posts in this thread. I kind of miss Fabian himself handling these matters but I can see where that might be dangerous.

WZRogeR 01-28-2012 08:33 PM

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