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KellyPierce 01-24-2012 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18709678)
so you believe the brain, not biology determines sex? well you also believe your 'husband' isn't a gay man either so i'll just let you believe what you please. whatever makes you happy.

Of course I feel it's the brain..if I took your brain out..you'd have no thought..you'd be dead :)

KellyPierce 01-24-2012 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18709680)
really? well when i was working with them, we treated them very nice and they were never required to fuck or take a cock. they were paid the most and had the best treatment. Never even seen most of the girls pop in all the years i worked there.

maybe thingsve changed...

So wait they didn't fuck and they didn't take a cock?

So I assume it was a blow job scene?

alias 01-24-2012 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 18709662)
Blew your entire argument and case by letting your very own lack of respect for others in the industry slip out.

It's all documented now. :2 cents:

suesheboy 01-24-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18709678)
so you believe the brain, not biology determines sex? well you also believe your 'husband' isn't a gay man either so i'll just let you believe what you please. whatever makes you happy.

Of course he is gay.

Looked at your site, you need a much better boob job. Could have cost you the win.

sicone 01-24-2012 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KellyPierce (Post 18709679)
How is it hypocritical?

I respect female performers lol

I just don't think they have as hard of a job than the male performer

And the male performers get treated just as bad as the females if not worse

Your statement of, all the girl does is lay there and fakes it badly is disrespectful. Telling a person they act like a child from 1 post calling you out is disrespectful, calling others little man is disrespectful.

I didn't read the last 2 pages and wont bother, but I'm sure there are more samples.

Asking to be respected while disrespecting those you're asking that of is hypocritical.

KellyPierce 01-24-2012 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 18709694)
Of course he is gay.

Looked at your site, you need a much better boob job. Could have cost you the win.

I wasn't nominated?

I was nominated for Xbiz who treat their nominees fairly

helterskelter808 01-24-2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 18709674)
Because it is stupid and patronizing.

If they want to be called that, how is it patronizing them?

KellyPierce 01-24-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 18709697)
Your statement of, all the girl does is lay there and fakes it badly is disrespectful. Telling a person they act like a child from 1 post calling you out is disrespectful, calling others little man is disrespectful.

I didn't read the last 2 pages and wont bother, but I'm sure there are more samples.

Asking to be respected while disrespecting those you're asking that of is hypocritical.

I'm sorry I should of said a lot of female performers..

I prefer old porn the starlets then used to take pride in their work

A lot of girls today look bored or fake so badly they ruin the scene..

That's coming from a consumer of straight porn..

Umm I have never had any issue of being respected by female performers?

I believe I stated all NOMINEES should be treated with respect and equality

Whether they are fat, asian, hot, ugly, whatever, man, woman, transsexual, gender queer, whatever the case may be..

georgeyw 01-24-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18709591)
Trannies, however much surgery and time and effort they put in, are not 'real' women, they cannot ever be, and I doubt any tranny would claim to be. However if they want to call themselves 'she' and think of themselves as a 'she', and look like a 'she' (with their clothes on), why not? In fact even if they didn't look female, why not?

It's just common decency to call someone the way they want to be called.

Like I said, I was not looking to be negative in anyway. It is just something I find hard to get my head around.

ie for me, calling someone *she* when I know full well they have cock and balls is off the charts insane.

Fletch XXX 01-24-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KellyPierce (Post 18709686)
So wait they didn't fuck and they didn't take a cock?

So I assume it was a blow job scene?

no, not scenes,... cam. was regular work, scheduled performances, three times a week... we sold the feeds,.. this was before all these cam sites you see now... i worked in Babenet studios for VCA doing interactive live cams, it was live models. No they were not being fucked on camera... they simply waved and chatted.

KellyPierce 01-24-2012 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 18709697)
Your statement of, all the girl does is lay there and fakes it badly is disrespectful. Telling a person they act like a child from 1 post calling you out is disrespectful, calling others little man is disrespectful.

I didn't read the last 2 pages and wont bother, but I'm sure there are more samples.

Asking to be respected while disrespecting those you're asking that of is hypocritical.

I'm sorry I should of said a lot of female performers..

I prefer old porn the starlets then used to take pride in their work

A lot of girls today look bored or fake so badly they ruin the scene..

That's coming from a consumer of straight porn..

Umm I have never had any issue of being respected by female performers?

I believe I stated all NOMINEES should be treated with respect and equality

Whether they are fat, asian, hot, ugly, whatever, man, woman, transsexual, gender queer, whatever the case may be..

KellyPierce 01-24-2012 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18709708)
no, not scenes,... cam. was regular work, scheduled performances, three times a week... we sold the feeds,.. this was before all these cam sites you see now... i worked in Babenet studios for VCA doing interactive live cams, it was live models. No they were not being fucked on camera... they simply waved and chatted.

Oh I do that now with cam4 but believe we all get paid the same amount

alias 01-24-2012 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18709700)
If they want to be called that, how is it patronizing them?

For me it would be patronizing because I'd be thinking WTF is wrong with this obviously delusional person, then doing for their best interest.

suesheboy 01-24-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KellyPierce (Post 18709699)
I wasn't nominated?

I was nominated for Xbiz who treat their nominees fairly

Calm down and reread what I wrote

georgeyw 01-24-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KellyPierce (Post 18709683)
Of course I feel it's the brain..if I took your brain out..you'd have no thought..you'd be dead :)

With no organs to pass waste or reproduce you'd be dead too.

ottopottomouse 01-24-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18709707)
ie for me, calling someone *she* when i know full well they have cock and balls is off the charts insane.

+ 1

sicone 01-24-2012 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KellyPierce (Post 18709704)
I'm sorry I should of said a lot of female performers..

I prefer old porn the starlets then used to take pride in their work

A lot of girls today look bored or fake so badly they ruin the scene..

That's coming from a consumer of straight porn..

Umm I have never had any issue of being respected by female performers?

I believe I stated all NOMINEES should be treated with respect and equality

Whether they are fat, asian, hot, ugly, whatever, man, woman, transsexual, gender queer, whatever the case may be..

No argument from me on those points, except for I'd change the word nominees to all people involved.

But what you fail to realize and most people do is that it takes a entire team and in most cases many teams to put out a complete product.

The person you just disrespected and called a child, may be the child who edits your videos, the child who owns the hosting company your site is on, the child who owns your CC processing. Now is that child the type to let it go cuz it doesn't matter or is he a vengeful dick with nothing better to do all day then fuck your world over and over. I learned the hard way myself.

Respect is earned, not given and it's damn not sure not demanded.

suesheboy 01-24-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sicone (Post 18709735)
Respect is earned, not given and it's damn not sure not demanded.

Golden:thumbsup:thumbsup

helterskelter808 01-24-2012 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18709707)
Like I said, I was not looking to be negative in anyway. It is just something I find hard to get my head around.

Well, we call female animals "she", countries "she", inanimate objects "she". So why not guys. :upsidedow I'm not say it's not 'strange', and it could be ridiculous, but it's no big deal really.

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ie for me, calling someone *she* when I know full well they have cock and balls is off the charts insane.
Stop thinking about their cock and balls then. :winkwink:

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Originally Posted by alias (Post 18709718)
For me it would be patronizing because I'd be thinking WTF is wrong with this obviously delusional person, then doing for their best interest.

The way I see it is basically if it's offensive or hurtful to them to call them "he", then why do it? You wouldn't call someone "ugly", to their face at least, just because you thought they were. People 'patronize' or bullshit each other every day.

georgeyw 01-24-2012 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18709750)
Stop thinking about their cock and balls then. :winkwink:

.


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Fenris Wolf 01-24-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 18709435)
Come to our Tranny Awards next month

Can you please send details to fenris_wolf3000 [at] yahoo . com. In addition, if you are willing, I would like to meet to discuss some business opportunities. This would be more towards the end of February if your up to it.

seanchai 01-24-2012 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenris Wolf (Post 18709771)
Can you please send details to fenris_wolf3000 [at] yahoo . com. In addition, if you are willing, I would like to meet to discuss some business opportunities. This would be more towards the end of February if your up to it.


http://www.trannyawards.com

It's all there Fenris.

You can get me anytime on [email protected]

Thanks Steven

JFK 01-25-2012 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 18709748)
Golden:thumbsup:thumbsup

agreed:thumbsup

seanchai 01-25-2012 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18709639)


Misogynistic? Pick up a dictionary before your next post.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/misogynistic
I did. Did you?
Idiot.

helterskelter808 01-25-2012 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 18710359)

Nope. Unlike you I know what the word means. Fuck knows what you're talking about though. Oh yeah, you pretend men are women because you're an imbecile who can't accept that being a cocksucker is gay. Get help.

seanchai 01-25-2012 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18710411)
Nope. Unlike you I know what the word means. Fuck knows what you're talking about though. Oh yeah, you pretend men are women because you're an imbecile who can't accept that being a cocksucker is gay. Get help.

Ah ok. Got it. Brilliant.

seanchai 01-25-2012 01:12 AM

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FlexxAeon 01-25-2012 01:32 AM

and here i thought i was gonna get 4 pages of business talk....

The Ghost 01-25-2012 02:15 AM

If this thread keeps up the OP is due a prize.


Every performer/producer wants to be recognized for their work. It's natural when you make something you're proud of, or in the hopes it will generate more income. There's just not room for it all in the AVN Awards. Or any award show. If you don't agree with their style start your own awards or purchase mid/high level advertising plan. That will get you noticed.

Personally I'd rather get pats on the back from affiliates than ANY award. :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by Fuzebox
My only comment is, you must be new to the AVN Awards and industry awards in general. They have always been political and financially skewed.

Extremely accurate.

Since award shows started there have been plenty excluded, with or without merit. Some awards presented and others just listed on the screen. I remember old school guys 15-20 years back having the exact same gripes. Movies and performers winning that didn't perform that year or have fallen out of the limelight. Winners drawn out of a hat. Poorly received and selling movies winning trophies. Next year will be the same.




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Originally Posted by Kellie58
As far as the awards go, they forgot to announce the winner of the female performer of the year, this year. Seriously.

Too funny! :1orglaugh


There's SO MAN award categories. Too many. Complete List Here. It would take 24 hours to present all those awards. Maybe stretch the AVN Awards into 3 days. More ticket sales for AVN :winkwink:

For the Marketing Gurus of GFY:
Tranny = Straight niche, marketed to straight men. It's been this way since the beginning of the niche. Those are the purchasers of it. Know your customers :)


** and read the whole thread

stocktrader23 01-25-2012 02:40 AM

Seriously guys? You sell porn and don't understand what it is to be trans-gendered? You don't understand why she would want to be called she? You can't comprehend that on the giant spectrum of sexuality there are all kinds of "anomalies" if you even want to call them that?

And on top of all that you don't comprehend that they are not only a minority but they are one of the few that still get harassed and bullied on a regular fucking basis? You know, to the point that you shouldn't be here harassing and bullying someone for posting a thread. Trans-gendered people are the new hahahahahahas and what you all are doing here is not cute / insightful / funny / intelligent.

Just stop it, seriously.

SomeCreep 01-25-2012 04:03 AM

Damn, this GFY, we cant read all that. Post pics.

DWB 01-25-2012 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18709458)
Sorry weirdos, sticking feathers up your ass does not make you a chicken.

I think you and I have had this exact debate before. :1orglaugh

Feathers alone up your ass does not make you a chicken. You are correct. However, surgically implanted feathers all over your body, a beak, chicken legs, chicken feet, and the honest belief that you are a chicken, just may lay argument as to what defines a chicken.

You could then say, you were not born a chicken. And that would be accurate. But they are a chicken now.

However, it would be correct if you said, "sticking feathers up your ass doesn't make you a hen." Hens lay eggs. So until science can make a genetically born male have a baby, your argument would be valid.


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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18709507)
How many ways do you need it explained? Most people into trannies, including you, go to ridiculously enormous lengths, just as you are doing now, to deny that liking tranny cock is gay. Why? Because they, and you, think there is something wrong with being gay. Referring to gay people as "homos" just reinforces what a self-hater you are.

When your customers are drooling over those meaty cocks, they're not thinking of the gender on the tranny's ID, they're dreaming of sucking some hairy balls dry and/or taking a fat load up their ass.

Nothing wrong with that, but however much you try and deny it because you think being gay is something to be ashamed of, there's nothing straight about it either.

Define "gay."

I'm curious to see if any of the definitions you can find will say, "sexually attracted to penis."


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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18709564)
Serious question for TS.

If you have a penis, why do TS refer to themselves as *she*?

Serious question - no hate.

Have dick = he.

Have pussy = she.

There is no grey area here.

It's all about the grey area. :2 cents:



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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18710512)
Seriously guys? You sell porn and don't understand what it is to be trans-gendered? You don't understand why she would want to be called she? You can't comprehend that on the giant spectrum of sexuality there are all kinds of "anomalies" if you even want to call them that?

Just stop it, seriously.

:2 cents::thumbsup

Assuming they actually sell porn for a living. Makes you wonder.

calvinawe 01-25-2012 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18708704)

:1orglaugh

DarkJedi 01-25-2012 05:30 AM

Back in the 50's, if you were caught sucking dick, you got sent to prison.

Just saying.

BlackCrayon 01-25-2012 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18710652)
I think you and I have had this exact debate before. :1orglaugh

Feathers alone up your ass does not make you a chicken. You are correct. However, surgically implanted feathers all over your body, a beak, chicken legs, chicken feet, and the honest belief that you are a chicken, just may lay argument as to what defines a chicken.

You could then say, you were not born a chicken. And that would be accurate. But they are a chicken now.

However, it would be correct if you said, "sticking feathers up your ass doesn't make you a hen." Hens lay eggs. So until science can make a genetically born male have a baby, your argument would be valid.




Define "gay."

I'm curious to see if any of the definitions you can find will say, "sexually attracted to penis."




It's all about the grey area. :2 cents:





:2 cents::thumbsup

Assuming they actually sell porn for a living. Makes you wonder.

I just think they are troubled individuals who should probably seek help.


regardless, thats not what this thread was intended to be about. its about awards. so what % of the industry does transgender movies represent? and how long was it before the gay side of the industry got any respect or notice? these are things that should be taken into consideration as to why ts movies/performers might not get the attention they want. the straight side of the industry is still overwhelmingly the majority.

LeRoy 01-25-2012 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18710652)

Feathers alone up your ass does not make you a chicken. You are correct. However, surgically implanted feathers all over your body, a beak, chicken legs, chicken feet, and the honest belief that you are a chicken, just may lay argument as to what defines a chicken.

You could then say, you were not born a chicken. And that would be accurate. But they are a chicken now.

Ok I get it now! Thanks for the analogy :thumbsup

CaptainHowdy 01-25-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 18710747)
Back in the 50's, if you were caught sucking dick, you got sent to prison.

Just saying.

The "good old days" where homosexuality was turned upon mankind ...

DWB 01-25-2012 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy (Post 18710762)
Ok I get it now! Thanks for the analogy :thumbsup

You know it. :thumbsup

helterskelter808 01-25-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 18710512)
Trans-gendered people are the new hahahahahahas and what you all are doing here is not cute / insightful / funny / intelligent.

Trannies get a hard time, some of it self-inflicted by how they behave, but to compare that in any way with how black people have been treated through history is pretty silly.

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18710652)
Feathers alone up your ass does not make you a chicken. You are correct. However, surgically implanted feathers all over your body, a beak, chicken legs, chicken feet, and the honest belief that you are a chicken, just may lay argument as to what defines a chicken.

You could then say, you were not born a chicken. And that would be accurate. But they are a chicken now.

Even with all that said, if you ate such a chicken you'd still be a cannibal.

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Define "gay."

I'm curious to see if any of the definitions you can find will say, "sexually attracted to penis."
And you think that definition more likely comes under "straight", do you? :1orglaugh

"Gay": Of, relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex.

"Sex": The property or quality by which organisms are classified as female or male on the basis of their reproductive organs and functions.

Define "woman". I'm curious to see if any definition you can find says, "person with a meaty schlong and jizz-filled hairy balls between their legs".

So why else would a cock sucker deny the fact that wanting to suck a cock is gay, if not because they think there is something 'wrong' or shameful about being gay?

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Assuming they actually sell porn for a living. Makes you wonder.
The idea that peddling filth gives a person a special insight to anthropology is one of the more hilarious things I keep reading here. :1orglaugh

DWB 01-25-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18711340)
Even with all that said, if you ate such a chicken you'd still be a cannibal.

Cannibalism is another debate.



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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 18711340)
And you think that definition more likely comes under "straight", do you? :1orglaugh

"Gay": Of, relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex.

"Sex": The property or quality by which organisms are classified as female or male on the basis of their reproductive organs and functions.

Define "woman". I'm curious to see if any definition you can find says, "person with a meaty schlong and jizz-filled hairy balls between their legs".

No, and that is my point. It doesn't fit into either. It's a grey area that is not yet classified and it can't simply be labeled as "gay." It's more complicated than that.


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