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    • Nov 2003
    • 32195
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    Massive File Host Rapidshare: "Not Concered" about Megaupload takedown

    RS is the twin of MU when it comes to download forum link saturation. Here's what they have to say. Interesting analogy re banks. Do you agree? Gideongallery, get in here, dude

    Courtesy of: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...d-takedown.ars
    "We're not concerned or scared about the raid," Daniel Raimer, a spokesperson for RapidShare, told Ars in a phone interview. "File hosting itself is a legitimate business."

    If a manager of a bank got arrested for money laundering, he said, it wouldn't lead to the shut-down of all banks. And he said Microsoft's SkyDrive and other cloud data storage and backup services," from a technical standpoint are doing what we do."
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    • SykkBoy
      Jesus loves bacon
      • Feb 2001
      • 19969
      #2
      basically "we're not stupid enough to chronicle our piracy with emails confessing to the act"
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        • Mutt
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Sep 2002
          • 34431
          #3
          well Rapidshare long ago went semi-legit - they aren't part of the porn piracy world - visit any of the blogs and forums with the file locker links, none of the big ones have used Rapidshare in a long time.
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            • spunky99
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2004
              • 3462
              #4
              i wish they were, they always took down links faster then alot of these others

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                • Dirty F
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 59204
                  #5
                  Rs deletes illegal content quite fast usually.

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                    • $5 submissions
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                      • Nov 2003
                      • 32195
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Mutt
                      well Rapidshare long ago went semi-legit - they aren't part of the porn piracy world - visit any of the blogs and forums with the file locker links, none of the big ones have used Rapidshare in a long time.
                      Considering their speed of deletion based on complaints (as claimed above) as well as their general responsiveness and how they have positioned their product they appear to be LESS SUSCEPTIBLE than MU. You do have to admit, there are quite a bit of RS links out there. Thankfully, most of them are dead or will be dead links.
                      Last edited by $5 submissions; 01-23-2012, 02:19 PM.

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                        • Failed
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 2301
                          #7
                          I've learned a valuable lesson in my short time here. Of course, I have no plans to act upon the lesson, but here it is in my (perhaps warped) perspective.

                          - start a tube, or file storage that actively seeks out pirated content to upload and store
                          - take down some content when requests come in, just not enough to bother the users
                          - continue to build and pirate until you become the "go to" source for pirated content or at least a competitor
                          - when reaching the spotlight, start becoming a legitimate operation, enough so to shine the spotlight elsewhere, but still reap the mega profits associated with our core model

                          Then I see a split as to what happens next. I need to pay better attention, perhaps.

                          Either:
                          - continue operating and seek out the up and comers to destroy them by all means necessary while buying all legitimate sources of content and traffic you can

                          Or:
                          - cash the fuck out, take all profits and either sell it, go completely legit, or shut it all down and retire

                          Or I guess the MU way:
                          - get drunk with money and power and just say fuck it until the shit hits the fan
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                            • signupdamnit
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 6697
                              #8
                              Let em keep talking shit and we'll maybe see about that.

                              You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                • DWB
                                  Registered User
                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 31779
                                  #9
                                  Kim Dotcom was probably thinking the same thing.

                                  We'll just have to wait and see how it all pans out. My personal guess is there will be no more arrests and it will be business as usual before long.

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                                    • signupdamnit
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2007
                                      • 6697
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by DWB
                                      Kim Dotcom was probably thinking the same thing.

                                      We'll just have to wait and see how it all pans out. My personal guess is there will be no more arrests and it will be business as usual before long.
                                      But we know the MU investigation wasn't just something which started last week. My guess is they have all sorts of information on all the major players. They are waiting for the orders to strike or otherwise some sort of provocation. It may or may not come but they probably know a lot more than some think they do. That's the way the government works. It waits like a snake to strike.

                                      Oh and I wouldn't want to be a company which had a run in with the government not too long ago over money laundering. Especially not if there were questions as to the legality of my operation. That would keep me up at night for sure.
                                      Last edited by signupdamnit; 01-23-2012, 03:23 PM.

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                                        • seeric
                                          ..........
                                          • Aug 2004
                                          • 41917
                                          #11
                                          Rapidshare does it all right. That's why.

                                          They remove.
                                          They suspend repeat infringers.

                                          Nothing like the way MU operated.

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                                            • Nautilus
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2002
                                              • 1631
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by seeric
                                              Rapidshare does it all right. That's why.

                                              They remove.
                                              They suspend repeat infringers.

                                              Nothing like the way MU operated.
                                              And they also remove the master file, not only generated links.
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                                                • raymor
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                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 3745
                                                  #13
                                                  Publicly rapidshare says they aren't worried because they properly take down files, they don't pay you to upload popular content, etc. In other words, "we're not worried because we're not guilty." Internally, I'd bet a million dollars they are sending around emails like this:

                                                  URGENT ** Attention all employees

                                                  It is imperative that any DMCA complaints or similar take down requests are handled IMMEDIATELY and handled CORRECTLY. To review proper take down procedures, ALL employees are required to attend the take down review meeting at 4:00 PM today. Also at the meeting we will discuss our new policy regarding removing users who generate multiple complaints.
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                                                    • Barefootsies
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                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                      • 42635
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Failed
                                                      I've learned a valuable lesson in my short time here. Of course, I have no plans to act upon the lesson, but here it is in my (perhaps warped) perspective.

                                                      - start a tube, or file storage that actively seeks out pirated content to upload and store
                                                      - take down some content when requests come in, just not enough to bother the users
                                                      - continue to build and pirate until you become the "go to" source for pirated content or at least a competitor
                                                      - when reaching the spotlight, start becoming a legitimate operation, enough so to shine the spotlight elsewhere, but still reap the mega profits associated with our core model
                                                      You have learned well grasshopper.
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                                                        • Fletch XXX
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                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                          • 60840
                                                          #15
                                                          the analogy of hosting and backups is dead on.

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                                                            • Nasty
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 1575
                                                              #16
                                                              RS has already been spanked and modified its program as a result

                                                              “Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war than we know about peace, more about killing than we know about living. If we continue to develop our technology without wisdom or prudence, our servant may prove to be our executioner.” ― Omar Bradley (1948)

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                                                                • PiracyPitbull
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2011
                                                                  • 583
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Failed
                                                                  I've learned a valuable lesson in my short time here. Of course, I have no plans to act upon the lesson, but here it is in my (perhaps warped) perspective.

                                                                  - start a tube, or file storage that actively seeks out pirated content to upload and store
                                                                  - take down some content when requests come in, just not enough to bother the users
                                                                  - continue to build and pirate until you become the "go to" source for pirated content or at least a competitor
                                                                  - when reaching the spotlight, start becoming a legitimate operation, enough so to shine the spotlight elsewhere, but still reap the mega profits associated with our core model

                                                                  Then I see a split as to what happens next. I need to pay better attention, perhaps.

                                                                  Either:
                                                                  - continue operating and seek out the up and comers to destroy them by all means necessary while buying all legitimate sources of content and traffic you can

                                                                  Or:
                                                                  - cash the fuck out, take all profits and either sell it, go completely legit, or shut it all down and retire

                                                                  Or I guess the MU way:
                                                                  - get drunk with money and power and just say fuck it until the shit hits the fan
                                                                  Pretty much ;)

                                                                  and why, even if Sopa stays on that shelf....there better be something in the pipeline that includes cutting of the money supply quickly.
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                                                                    • Dirty F
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                      • 59204
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by raymor
                                                                      Publicly rapidshare says they aren't worried because they properly take down files, they don't pay you to upload popular content, etc. In other words, "we're not worried because we're not guilty." Internally, I'd bet a million dollars they are sending around emails like this:

                                                                      URGENT ** Attention all employees

                                                                      It is imperative that any DMCA complaints or similar take down requests are handled IMMEDIATELY and handled CORRECTLY. To review proper take down procedures, ALL employees are required to attend the take down review meeting at 4:00 PM today. Also at the meeting we will discuss our new policy regarding removing users who generate multiple complaints.
                                                                      And? Anything wrong with that?

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                                                                        • raymor
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 3745
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                                          And? Anything wrong with that?
                                                                          No, nothing wrong at all. I'm just pointing out that just because they SAY they aren't worried doesn't mean they aren't actually awefully nervous, or that they won't be making changes in the coming days and weeks.
                                                                          Last edited by raymor; 01-23-2012, 07:04 PM.
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                                                                            • porno jew
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                                                                              • Nov 2006
                                                                              • 10166
                                                                              #20
                                                                              that is just aweful.

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                                                                                • bronco67
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                                                  • 29032
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  "We're not concerned or scared about the raid," Daniel Raimer, a spokesperson for RapidShare, told Ars in a phone interview. "File hosting itself is a legitimate business."

                                                                                  If a manager of a bank got arrested for money laundering, he said, it wouldn't lead to the shut-down of all banks. And he said Microsoft's SkyDrive and other cloud data storage and backup services," from a technical standpoint are doing what we do."

                                                                                  The key phrase here is "from a technical standpoint."

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                                                                                    • Jakez
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                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                      • 5656
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                                      My guess is they have all sorts of information on all the major players. They are waiting for the orders to strike or otherwise some sort of provocation. It may or may not come but they probably know a lot more than some think they do. That's the way the government works. It waits like a snake to strike.
                                                                                      Too true. Doesn't Walmart somewhat allow shop lifters to build up a known list of items taken until it reaches a certain $ amount so they can seek a harsher penalty once convicted?
                                                                                      Last edited by Jakez; 01-23-2012, 07:50 PM.
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                                                                                        • Zarathustra
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Oct 2005
                                                                                          • 1094
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          this is a telltale sign that they are scared (it would be ignorant not to be concerned at the very least) and that they are going down

                                                                                          they are more diligent than others in taking down stuff yes,
                                                                                          but one can also say that 1 thief is not as bad as the other thieves which doesn't really mean much in the end as they are all theives

                                                                                          Their foundation is pretty marshy. What percent of their files stay up (meaning legit or not yet reported) as opposed to being taken down? Is it like 1%? Can also be argued against the legitimacy of the service

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                                                                                            • NetHorse
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Dec 2006
                                                                                              • 3526
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Rapidshare seems more legit than others. They weren't mass downloading copyrighted works directly from youtube onto their servers. They also don't have the huge cash incentives megaupload, filesonic, fileserve, oron and others have.

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                                                                                                • lucas131
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                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                  • 11475
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  rapidshare is not driven by assholes, there is nothing else about it

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                                                                                                    • kane
                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                                                                      • 20684
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      The first sign that you are worried is when you tell everyone you are not. It is kind of light in a boxing match when a guy gets hit hard and it hurts him and he smiles and shakes his head "no." You know for sure then that the punch stung.

                                                                                                      These guys might not be ready to close up shop and might have their shit lined up better than others, but if they aren't at least a little nervous than they are dumb.

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                                                                                                        • kane
                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                                          • 20684
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by lucas131
                                                                                                          rapidshare is not driven by assholes, there is nothing else about it
                                                                                                          Just in case you were interested if you follow the link in your sig to the wordpress themes the domain all of the samples are on is expired.

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                                                                                                            • DWB
                                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                                                              • 31779
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Got 99 problems and Megaupload ain't one.

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                                                                                                                • Barry-xlovecam
                                                                                                                  It's 42
                                                                                                                  • Jun 2010
                                                                                                                  • 18083
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  rapidshare's servers are in Germany ...

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                                                                                                                    • lucas131
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                                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                      • 11475
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by kane
                                                                                                                      Just in case you were interested if you follow the link in your sig to the wordpress themes the domain all of the samples are on is expired.
                                                                                                                      thank you i know it is not my sig. but thank you

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                                                                                                                        • Paul Markham
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                                                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                          • 52942
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by DWB
                                                                                                                          Kim Dotcom was probably thinking the same thing.

                                                                                                                          We'll just have to wait and see how it all pans out. My personal guess is there will be no more arrests and it will be business as usual before long.
                                                                                                                          Unless pressure is kept up, that will be the future.

                                                                                                                          The amazing thing here is how people are standing up for RS as"Not being so bad"



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                                                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                              • 32195
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by kane
                                                                                                                              The first sign that you are worried is when you tell everyone you are not. It is kind of light in a boxing match when a guy gets hit hard and it hurts him and he smiles and shakes his head "no." You know for sure then that the punch stung.
                                                                                                                              .
                                                                                                                              interesting observation

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                                                                                                                                • pornguy
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                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 62912
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  So when I DMCA FileSonic I will CC DOJ for good measure.
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                                                                                                                                    • seeric
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                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                      • 41917
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by pornguy
                                                                                                                                      So when I DMCA FileSonic I will CC DOJ for good measure.
                                                                                                                                      Not a bad idea. I think we will start doing that when we DMCA Leaseweb too.

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