that's what they said to Reagan about Russia (the dumb ones anyway) :winkwink:

sorry honey, I pay for something, I'll call it mine.
now run along and give your buddy sadam a kiss goodbye.:1orglaugh

N.Korea has had nukes since 1994, they have not used them. It was only since Bush labeled them an axis of evil that new problems have developed.

Funny how N.Korea wasn't talked about in recent history before Bush came into power.

This country was founded after a bloody revolution. Then we had an even bloodier civil war with brother fighting brother. We have had war on our soil...

:eek7

Have some information sources I could read more about this from?

Really?
I'm confused. what are thousands of our troops doing in S. korea again?
I forget.

You want to know why we're hearing about it now? because they kicked out the nuclear inspectors (UN not US) and broke their agreement with the UN (not the US)

deciding to become a nuclear power while your population STARVES TO DEATH may seem ok in :frog: land but here in America, we know its a sign of trouble.

I'd like to point out that 90% of the stupid motherfuckers in gangs can't shoot.

By the way, what country that is likely to be involved in a war do you know of where most people don't own guns?

Seeing as you've deigned to reply... I've served my time in uniform beside *your* guys (and they're as bad at drinking as weapon delivery...) and it sickens me that those dumb fucks are willing to die for smartasses hiding behind their keyboards like yourself :321GFY

Why is it when an American says something like "let's kick their ass" it's because we're bloodthirsty savages, but when 1 billion arabs yell for our blood it's because they were unjustly provoked?

N.Korea has always been a problem, but I believe Bush upped the threat a notch.
I'm aware something like 30,000 troops are stationed in South Korea.

A good female friend of mine is from South Korea and she tells me all the time how fucked up the north is.
All their money goes into the military.

I just firmly believe they aren't about to start a war, unless of course they feel pressured into doing so.
I believe Bush is doing just that.
Who knows. Anyways I'm off to lunch.

Dickheads? You don't know jack weenie what Americans are made of. You don't win a war with just soldiers. It takes massive brain power to wage war and every American contributes in one way or another. Go Fuck Yourself FOR REAL!

oh please honey, no one is impressed with your drinking ability.
Oh, and my army is willing to die for my country.
now run along and kiss your buddy sadam goodbye.:1orglaugh

It is because the 1 billion muslims are peace loving people living in democratic modern countries such as lybia, iran, yemen, algeria, gaza and many more fun and warm place. And we are a bunch of bloodthirsty democratic loving and free people...:glugglug

There are pro and cons to every conflict in the world. You can't expect that noone will want to got to war. There are, unfortunatly, too many reasons in favor for war.

You need laser jets as well:Graucho

:winkwink:

ROFL!! Go join the military and see how much 'brain power' is available!!


Umm, I'm a bloke.

...and no-one is impressed with *your* military's aiming capabilities - what's your point?


Yeah, pity you wouldn't run along and help them.


You aren't worth swapping my old desert boots for
:1orglaugh

Seems you are the smartass sitting behind the keyboard. Maybe we should have sat out WWII and you would be speaking German now. You fuckers owe us your Freedom as it is.

Why was it good enough the then for us bastard Americans to get involved?

no one can possibly invade the US, it isnt possible.....

What about 9/11 you idiot??? And if you atack Iraq you will have 9/11 every day of the year...

looks like you need another keyboard Snow :)

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looks like you need another keyboard Snow :) [/B

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

a single post can have quite an effect.

Doubtful. Very doubtful.

Unless you are privy to some information that the US gov't isn't. Are you?

Sat out WWII? You only joined in out of self interest - not to help us out - you were quite happy to watch boat loads of Jews sit off your shore and refuse them entry, quite happy to watch mainland Europe get annihilated, quite happy to watch thousands of young men die fighting for their freedom and VERY happy to offer Nazi scientists 'relocation' packages afterwards. :321GFY

Join up or shut up.

This might be a mind boggeling concept!
Do you think any country or org. in history, present or future would EVER go to war if thier interests weren't satisfied.
I hate to sound like a realist but, or World is dog eat dog.
What is in it for us, if you don't think like that someone else is...
and then they will take your shit!

Just out of curiosity, why does everyone say Americans are horrible for acting in their own self interest?

Doesn't every country?

As far as I know, every country in the world acts in their own self interest.

Strange how it's suddenly something to loath and scorn when it's America doing it.

I concurr:2 cents: :2 cents:

I haven't got a problem with the 'self interest' concept - just the 'you owe us your freedom' concept.

Then I couldn't agree with you more...
Freedom is a natural right for everyone.

This country has let in more refugees than all other country's combined. And you might want to think again about your join up smack. I earned the right to talk the talk because I walked the walk. Unless free falling with a stinger missle strapped to your ass into Serbia doesn't meet your standard of a soldier.

The reason that they weren't talked about is because China (North Korea's BOSS) would not like it if their control system for their missiles (mattel walkie talkies confiscated from south korean pisoners in the 1950's) caused them (the missiles) to accidently go north instead of south -when fired

Hmmm... looks like you have weapons of mass destruction.

You'd better disarm before the rest of the world has to forcibly disarm you!

Haven't you heard, weapons of mass destruction aren't allowed!

Did I state that you never let in refugees? No - you did however watch boat full of Jews trying to land on your soil virtually starve rather than let Hitler think you were sympathysing with them.

You've put on a uniform - good for you - it at least gives you the right to discuss thousands of people dying - because you've been in that position - my main jump in this thread is all the keyboard heroes...

My gripe with you is the 'owe freedom' and 'speaking German' - on those points you can definitely :321GFY

Surprise, all top countries have nukes...
that is a BIG reason why no one uses them.
It is in the rest of the worlds best interest that the US has nukes, study your polital philos. behind nuke warfare!

I was a little over the top with the "you owe us" remark. My sincere apolgies.

I do get a little incensed when people denegrate this country and call it war-mongering. I had four very good friends killed in Somalia on a so called UN peace mission. Somebody spits on and dismembers your friends and it kind of sticks with you.

Ever seen a satellite image of Korea? In the South there is light, cities, etc. Past the 48th parallel though, all you see is darkness - except for the 'govt' palaces and military compounds. It's Iraq without oil.

Kat,

Kat, have you heard the term "Euro-trash"? It's because of people like you that such a term exists. You give not only your country, but your entire warm beer guzzling continent a bad name.

Just for the record, the USA was involved in helping the war effort of the allies during WWII long before they got directly involved themselves. No one here knows anything about the US "Lend-Lease" program? USA sent millions of tons of raw materials, money and armements over to Great Britain, and also to Russia. Billions of dollars worth, much of which remains unrepaid, and will probably never be paid back ever.


Never cut the USA short for their role during any part of WWII. Fact is, without them that war very likely would have turned out vastly different.


And it is a tough decision for any country to send it's sons overseas to die when your country isn't in any real direct (or future) harm.

Really? I gave my country a bad name when I served and left the Forces with an exemplary record? Hmm, nope. I gave my country a bad name when I stick up my head to tell idiots like you to STFU? Hmmm, maybe - if you don't like it look at the URL :321GFY

No problems chap - I lost good friends in N.Ireland and listened to dumb-asses go on about the 'troubles' like it is something they read in a book once - that's why I get het up with wannabe warriors talking shit about 'war' - it's your/my buddies that went through training with a laugh and a beer that get their guts spilled - not the keyboard bashers and the pen-pushers.

Funny if you look at history, how things change;

During WWII the fighting nations in europe wanted the US to join the war, the US public was opposed to joining

Hitler made the mistake of attacking a US warship, and that was that...

Stepping back a little bit further, the infighting among smaller europen countries and backass republics made them ripe picking for Hitler... when he first acted, nothing was done, diplomacy was the order of the day, WWI was a bitter fresh memory, people wanted to avoid another major war.
Yet if he was stopped then, it would have cost many less lives. It could have also left him in power to act later, who knows

This history lesson is well remembered, and applied today. So regardless of what you think, that is why we are obligated to interfere where "hotspots" which crop up, and banana republics get out of line.

It is also why Sadam ultimately must go, one way or another. He's a wannabe-hitler, with weapons that could pose a problem for a lot of countries in the region. He would try and gain favour (among arabs) by attacking israel. But make no mistake his goal (unrealistic as it may be) is to make war and control whichever arab countries in the area, that he could defeat.

Agreed, well said

AHAHAHAHAHA!


good thread, good points made on both sites
classic




:321GFY islam :321GFY

That is one thing I hope everybody would agree on. Dont leave a dictator in power once you go to war with them.

got the cojones to put money where your mouth is?

thought not

:)

saw it coming

:)

"MY NAME IS SNOW AND I'M SO GOOD WITH THE COMPUTER I CAN'T EVEN TURN CAPS LOCK OFF. OH SHIT, I'M SO DUMB, AND I LOOK LIKE AN UGLY ITALIAN"

think about what you just said PG

the taliban had guns

they don't really help much against gunships and bombs

duh

Funny how you just glossed over 5 decades of history. US-North Korea relations have been awful for 50 years. Remember the war?

Wow jammy jamjam..... you wake up in grade three this morning?




Sincerely,
Nestor Pistor.