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  • porno jew
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    • Nov 2006
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    #1

    So Paysite Sales Should Go Up Now?

    megaupload had a good chunk of total internet traffic, so logic should dictate there should be a increase in sales? amirite?
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    • yuu.design
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      #3
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      • Barefootsies
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        • harvey
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          • BIGTYMER
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            • Nov 2004
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            #6
            Might see a slight bump.

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            • porno jew
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              • Nov 2006
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              #7
              i'm not trolling. serious question.

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              • harvey
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                • harvey
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                  • Jul 2001
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by porno jew
                  i'm not trolling. serious question.
                  I just found these fine gifs
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                  • FlexxAeon
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                    • May 2003
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                    #10
                    perhaps if it's competitors start retreating with policy changes. otherwise they will see the bump
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                    • Wizzo
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by porno jew
                      i'm not trolling. serious question.
                      There's plenty of people joining paysites every day, just likely not many of them are the same as someone who uses Megaupload, though Fabian in his keynote speech said they made sales from their PB ads, so I guess it could be possible.
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                      • tonyparra
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by FlexxAeon
                        perhaps if it's competitors start retreating with policy changes. otherwise they will see the bump

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                        • blackmonsters
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                          • Nov 2002
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by porno jew
                          megaupload had a good chunk of total internet traffic, so logic should dictate there should be a increase in sales? amirite?
                          Even if every infringing site went down today nothing would happen right away.

                          People who are used to free downloads would just sit there waiting for free downloads
                          to come back. They would spend all day looking for a site that didn't go down and
                          try to figure out other ways to get free downloads.

                          But if infringing sites stay down permanently a "new generation" of surfers that never
                          got free downloads will buy and many old generation freeloaders will eventually cave in and buy also.
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                          • epitome
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                            • Jun 2009
                            • 12156

                            #14
                            Might see a bump. The problem is that people know Mega Upload isn't the be all ... they know of the other sites out there.

                            There are still lots of file lockers almost as big that need to go as well (and probably will).

                            What will be good is that some sites should see better SERPs since they won't be pointing there anymore.

                            What's surprising to me is how helpful authorities have been in other countries in rounding up the people that ran MU. I'm sure the owners and employees of other sites are shitting their pants and wondering if they're safe where they live/work.

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                            • JosephFM
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                              #15
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                              • Hentaikid
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                                • Nov 2002
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                                #16
                                For a while now download link sites put the links to half a dozen file lockers so when one gets taken down the others still work. Still mu was one of the biggest and most used for large files like full movies and episodes

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                                • seeandsee
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                                  #17
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                                  • Fabien
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                                    • Jul 2003
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                    Even if every infringing site went down today nothing would happen right away.

                                    People who are used to free downloads would just sit there waiting for free downloads
                                    to come back. They would spend all day looking for a site that didn't go down and
                                    try to figure out other ways to get free downloads.

                                    But if infringing sites stay down permanently a "new generation" of surfers that never
                                    got free downloads will buy and many old generation freeloaders will eventually cave in and buy also.

                                    Yeah ! But it depends of the amount of free legal stuff shown on sites too
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                                    • newB
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                                      • Jul 2006
                                      • 2870

                                      #19
                                      Unlikely.

                                      The winners will be the other filelockers, torrents, tubes, and any other place their users can find the "free" pirated content they are looking for.

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                                      • JosephFM
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                                        • Feb 2010
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                                        #20
                                        I remember last year i think it was when xvideos and a couple tube sites went down my traffic went triple the amount it had and a couple extra sales came thru, just for a couple of days, after they fixed their problem all went back to shit again.

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                                        • Vjo
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 6082

                                          #21
                                          If 20 more big site owners get busted and lots of publicity like Kazaa and p2p.. maybe bust a few torrent uploaders.. who knows. Maybe a few guys might say fuck it and buy to stay safe.

                                          Maybe this is just the beginning. It is a big f'n internet out there tho. Depends how serious the govt is on ending piracy.

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                                          • epitome
                                            So Fucking Lame
                                            • Jun 2009
                                            • 12156

                                            #22
                                            I hope DOJ tries to make a really big statement by also going after the affiliates of Mega Upload. The one's that fill up the forums with video thumbs and an affiliate link to the full version at Mega Upload.

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                                            • newB
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                                              • Jul 2006
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by epitome
                                              I hope DOJ tries to make a really big statement by also going after the affiliates of Mega Upload. The one's that fill up the forums with video thumbs and an affiliate link to the full version at Mega Upload.
                                              And those who actually uploaded the content.

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                                              • stocktrader23
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                                                • Jan 2003
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by epitome
                                                I hope DOJ tries to make a really big statement by also going after the affiliates of Mega Upload. The one's that fill up the forums with video thumbs and an affiliate link to the full version at Mega Upload.
                                                This is who they should be going after to start with, and hard. You see it takes years and years to bring a case against the main company. How hard would it be instead to go to court and prove that their USERS are uploading stolen shit left and right and force the company to turn over a list of affiliates. Arrest each and every fucking one of them and see who wants to keep pushing.


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                                                • Supz
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                                                  • Jul 2006
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                                                  #25
                                                  sureee they will.

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                                                  • ArsewithClass
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                                                    • Mar 2007
                                                    • 7957

                                                    #26
                                                    People shall always buy porn especially unsaturated sites & paysites that you have not tried to convert yet...

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                                                    • Splum
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                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 6195

                                                      #27
                                                      People wont buy more of your crappy porn, high quality shit MAYBE but there is very little high quality here on GFY.

                                                      The people that got busted today are free loaders they will NEVER pay for your crap, you should have been smart like the tubes and offered them marketing that would turn them into paying customers.

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                                                      • signupdamnit
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                                                        • Aug 2007
                                                        • 6697

                                                        #28
                                                        There should be a small bump. Thousands of pirated full scene links just went dead. Most will have links to other hosts but some won't.

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                                                        • DWB
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                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                          • 31779

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                          Even if every infringing site went down today nothing would happen right away.

                                                          People who are used to free downloads would just sit there waiting for free downloads
                                                          to come back. They would spend all day looking for a site that didn't go down and
                                                          try to figure out other ways to get free downloads.

                                                          But if infringing sites stay down permanently a "new generation" of surfers that never
                                                          got free downloads will buy and many old generation freeloaders will eventually cave in and buy also.
                                                          This.

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                                                          • DWB
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                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                            • 31779

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Splum
                                                            People wont buy more of your crappy porn, high quality shit MAYBE but there is very little high quality here on GFY.

                                                            The people that got busted today are free loaders they will NEVER pay for your crap, you should have been smart like the tubes and offered them marketing that would turn them into paying customers.
                                                            You trollin or you not really in the porn business?

                                                            There is a nut for every bolt. The amateur market is HUGE.

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                                                            • raymor
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                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 3745

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by FlexxAeon
                                                              perhaps if it's competitors start retreating with policy changes. otherwise they will see the bump

                                                              Yeah the other ones have to be thinking real hard right now. Megaupload didn't just get taken down, the principals who encouraged theft went to JAIL. That has to have the others thinking about how to change their business model.
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                                                              • anexsia
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by ArsewithClass
                                                                People shall always buy porn especially unsaturated sites & paysites that you have not tried to convert yet...
                                                                This. I just bought a membership the other day to a website I have been promoting because they offered some really unique and great content.

                                                                There's some porn companies here that seem to want to blame it all on piracy and tubes instead of looking at their own product and realizing that it's shit that's been done way to many times before and offers absolutely nothing new. Sure piracy hurts, but if you're trying to sell memberships to a paysite that sucks or has a million pre-checked cross-sales or offers nothing unique or the same old boring shit you can find anywhere else then you should be putting the blame on yourself as well. With crap like Media Revenue was pulling, can you really blame customers for being hesitant to buy a membership?

                                                                Don't get me wrong, piracy does hurt, but I also think some are using it as an excuse to other problems.

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                                                                • nikki99
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                                                                  #33
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                                                                  • ArsewithClass
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                                                                    • Mar 2007
                                                                    • 7957

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by anexsia
                                                                    This. I just bought a membership the other day to a website I have been promoting because they offered some really unique and great content.

                                                                    There's some porn companies here that seem to want to blame it all on piracy and tubes instead of looking at their own product and realizing that it's shit that's been done way to many times before and offers absolutely nothing new. Sure piracy hurts, but if you're trying to sell memberships to a paysite that sucks or has a million pre-checked cross-sales or offers nothing unique or the same old boring shit you can find anywhere else then you should be putting the blame on yourself as well. With crap like Media Revenue was pulling, can you really blame customers for being hesitant to buy a membership?

                                                                    Don't get me wrong, piracy does hurt, but I also think some are using it as an excuse to other problems.
                                                                    Absolutely.. Piracy & tubes shall always hurt sales, as does the online business for shops, but still stores were making money this christmas

                                                                    I agree that a site needs a usp. With our content, most of the time, it's just the usual footage, but I do go out of my way to try to provide our members with something unique or at least different, especially different to the usual solo or amateur sites. Even if the scene is going to be a girl boy facial, I try to either have the model spied on by the fella first, or maybe as we're doing tomorrow, a simple masturbation scene turned into an ass licking set when a fella bursts in the door, probably made out to be a work colleague, setting at work

                                                                    Just a little difference to the content can make it more appealing for the viewer to enjoy

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                                                                    • ArsewithClass
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Mar 2007
                                                                      • 7957

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by DWB
                                                                      You trollin or you not really in the porn business?

                                                                      There is a nut for every bolt. The amateur market is HUGE.
                                                                      Leave the trolls to troll


                                                                      The time is now & the going is going to get a little tougher for those that are not really dedicated to the business we are in

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                                                                      • Operator
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                                                                        • May 2009
                                                                        • 2419

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Good job on seven thousand posts

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                                                                        • porno jew
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                                                                          • Nov 2006
                                                                          • 10166

                                                                          #37
                                                                          meh ga ... meh ga.

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                                                                          • Why
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                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                            • 7230

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by newB
                                                                            Unlikely.

                                                                            The winners will be the other filelockers, torrents, tubes, and any other place their users can find the "free" pirated content they are looking for.
                                                                            QFT, the traffic will just go elsewhere, these people are trained on free.

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                                                                            • Makaveli
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                                                                              • Feb 2001
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              No chance....

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                                                                              • porno jew
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                                                                                • 10166

                                                                                #40
                                                                                no traffic increase on my link list.

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                                                                                • sojproductions
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                                                                                  • Aug 2006
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  no way it will happen overnight, those in it for the longhaul will see the benefit if more sites are shut down over the coming months.
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                                                                                  • lucas131
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                                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                                    • 11475

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    they should go mega up! load

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                                                                                    • NetHorse
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                                                                                      • Dec 2006
                                                                                      • 3526

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Psshh. This is apart of the fallacy that plagues this forum. As if a couple tube sites or file sharing sites being taken down will change things to how they used to be.

                                                                                      Like it or not, their business model has forever changed this industry, get used to it. Someone will gladly take their place, and those users who relied on megaupload will find it before they find your site and buy a subscription.
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                                                                                      • gideongallery
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                                                                                        • Aug 2003
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by blackmonsters
                                                                                        Even if every infringing site went down today nothing would happen right away.

                                                                                        People who are used to free downloads would just sit there waiting for free downloads
                                                                                        to come back. They would spend all day looking for a site that didn't go down and
                                                                                        try to figure out other ways to get free downloads.

                                                                                        But if infringing sites stay down permanently a "new generation" of surfers that never
                                                                                        got free downloads will buy and many old generation freeloaders will eventually cave in and buy also.
                                                                                        and if magic rainbows rained money we all be rich.

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                                                                                        • DamianJ
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                                                                                          • Jul 2006
                                                                                          • 15808

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          What if everyone was wrong about piracy?

                                                                                          http://adultmarketing.co.uk/2010/04/...-about-piracy/

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                                                                                          • V_RocKs
                                                                                            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                                            • 32447

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Just because you throw out the trash, the roaches will now go away?

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                                                                                            • DarkJedi
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                                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                                              • 28301

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                                              no traffic increase on my link list.
                                                                                              my TGP2 is kinda slow as well

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                                                                                              • anexsia
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                                                                                                • May 2010
                                                                                                • 5735

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Unless Megaupload's downfall somehow got all these sponsors/content producers to stop producing and putting out shitty generic porn...nope sales are same.

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                                                                                                • anexsia
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                                                                                                  • May 2010
                                                                                                  • 5735

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by DamianJ
                                                                                                  What if everyone was wrong about piracy?

                                                                                                  http://adultmarketing.co.uk/2010/04/...-about-piracy/
                                                                                                  Great article. Sure I could pirate games off Pirate Bay, but instead I buy them off Steam because the prices are good, it's easily accessed, and I can buy the games that are good. I could also pirate just about any movie out there, but I like the convenience of Netflix and their delivery system...their price is still pretty good as well.

                                                                                                  So when it comes to porn....If I want to buy a membership to some place, oh wait...all the shit is the same why the fuck would I want to buy a membership? And if I did, what can I look forward to? My credit card charged multiple times? Having to go through tons of bullshit to cancel my membership? Getting access just to discover there is hardly any movies or good pictures like the tour showed?

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                                                                                                  • V_RocKs
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                                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                                    • 32447

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Pirates abound

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