- Paul Markham
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From this thread.
http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1053674
http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18696090&postcount=86
From this thread.
http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1053674
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Why shouldn't it be? TV, radio, cable, print... all has some degree of censorship to it. Just because it's a form of media doesn't mean it should be lawless.
The internet already has some degree of censorship, as you can't openly post child porn or beast pics anywhere you want. No one but pedophiles and beast lovers have issues with that. A little "censorship" is good when if it keeps the monsters under control. -
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The Internet is censored.
Fuck you people are slooow sometimes."Americas Hitler" JD Vance.
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Why is not the important fact, the important fact is that TV is in fact censored.
Bono faced off about the "F Word" if you remember that.
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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There is no doubt it has to be censored for the reasons I gave.
No censorship is an ultimate, meaning absolutely no censorship. Once you say, this shouldn't be allowed. It comes to where do you draw the line? This we can debate, no censorship means this is possible, even probable.
How many Muslim terrorists cut off the heads of hostages so they could get it aired online?
Horrible thought. However if the Internet is "uncensored" as some wish. Think of child rape, adult rape, snuff movies, etc, just to get it online. Self regulation in a world like today where some will do anything to make a fast buck?
That's a little bit too much trust to put into the hands of anyone who can put up a site and upload a video. So all we have is the Government, who do you trust more, people who would do anything to get their 5 minutes of fame, make a fast buck, depraved, psychotic or the Government?
It's horrible even thinking about an "uncensored Internet" if you think a little about it.Yes all those things would be legal to publish online. The act may well be illegal, lie piracy is today, the publication because of the "No Censorship" rule. Allows all these things and more.If you think sensibly and ask yourself "Should the Internet be censored?" There really is only one answer. Yes.
It's something that allows anyone to put up anything on. Not just information but libel, incitement to violence, hate, prejudice and lies, kids can beat tramps and sell membership to the content, or beat up fellow kids and pt it on Youtube. And this is just part of it. 15 year old's can have sex and put it online, one adult can put a movie online he secretly took of a lover, not touching the pictures of underage kids nude or unsuspecting adults seeing their pictures they they thought were private come into the public domain.
And if I need to repeat all the illegal stuff that could be flooding the Internet with no censorship, I would be hear all night.
Just a very tiny proportion of this type of content that some want legalised, gets into offline publications and the publishers get found and hit hard usually. A non censored Internet is a crazy idea. If you think sensibly.
So who is willing to have that content online?
Vendzilla is scared of Censors becoming monsters. What about monsters becoming free to publish what they want, monsters getting their 5 minutes of fame, monsters who think raping a child, recording it and putting it online is fun?
You're scared the laws coming will subject Video Secrets to extra work of making sure pirates don't get paid by them.
Don't throw the baby out with the dish water. Unless you think no censorship is a risk you will take.Comment
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Photographers asking for censorship is just about the fucking funniest thing ever
Be like macdonalds asking for enforced vegetarianism.Comment
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You have to understand that Paul is a dinosaur with absolutely no knowledge about the Internet in general, never mind Internet marketing. Nobody, and The Rock means nobody, takes that crazy old fool seriously..Comment
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A censor is someone who approves or denies something BEFORE it can be published.
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Censorship - if the authorities prevent illegal content from being published in the first place, through a pre-approval process.
Free press - if you can be held responsible AFTER publishing unlawful material.
In the US and other free nations we have free press - if you publish something unlawful, you can be held accountable for what you did. North Korea, Cuba and other dictatorships practice censorship, which means nothing unlawful ever gets published because it has to be approved BEFORE it's published.For historical display only. This information is not current:
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You are concerned about pirate sites getting money from sites like us, that site is not getting any money for that pop up.
They said it would come down soon as of yesterday.
You attack the company that's proactive, making you a hypocrite and an asshat. There is a much bigger ad right up front that you fail to mention, Are they paying you?
Take your meds PaulCarbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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If you are for any form of censorship then you deserve what you get. You're brainwashed to the point of no return if you can't figure out why it's bad.Comment
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LOL at thinking there isn't free press in the USA!!Originally posted by JohnnyClipswebmaster at pimproll dot comComment
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True. However, something has to be in control. People are generally unable to police themselves. That's just the way society works. Without a little control, society breaks down.
However, I want to be clear that I want the internet to be lawful and people have to abide by those laws. I don't want a China situation where information is cherry picked and given to the people. And I don't believe SOPA would bring that.
Truth be told, the US gov should censor or shut down the internet right now, with or without SOPA. Wrap it under National Security and it's curtains. You can thank the Patriot Act for that, which I may add people did not protest over like they are SOPA. Ironic.
So you are pro-child porn?
Interesting.
Valid points.
Though, I don't think any nation has full free press. Not even the USA.
It's a slippery slope but it's already there on TV, radio, cable, and print. It's part of life. And to be frank, I'd rather not expose children to the F Bomb and hardcore porn during the middle of Saturday cartoons. Without some sort of media laws and censorship, that is what you would get. Meanwhile on the lawless internet, that is EXACTLY what you get. You can't even search for "how to make bread" without getting porn results if you look in the Google images. It's disgusting and makes me ashamed to be part of this industry.
Should all media just be a free for all so everyone can expose your kids and grandma to beast sex and rape videos? Authentic Japanese rape videos on every Monday night right after Law & Order. Fridays can be Mexican murder videos. Sundays, before the game, you can gather the family around the TV and watch 5 year old Russian girls sodomized. Sounds like a win to me.Comment
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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Everything has censorship. Also this forum.Comment
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Originally posted by JohnnyClipsThe people who don't care if child rape, snuff and the rest I listed earlier are shown online. Great being in an industry with this level of morals.Originally posted by JohnnyClips
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That's exactly the case for Governments and the people to decide the where the line is drawn. No line, people would be publishing and committing crimes to make a few bucks.Originally posted by JohnnyClips
The rest support the idea of some low life flying to Cambodia, buying a child, raping her or him while filming it and then selling it to a company who would sell it online.
Don't tell me it wouldn't happen, because it has and the only thing that stopped it was censorship. CP happens, you anti censorship guys want to see more online. Sick.Comment
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That is what would happen a lot more if the law of censorship was removed. Google Denmark censorship law to get the answer.
Actually Damian raises a very good point. Why would a pornographer be in favor of censorship?
History, knowledge and experience.
I lived and worked in the UK during strict censorship times. When you needed a set of balls to be a pornographer. I have been raided by the police holding search warrants like a few other friends in the business. Had to follow much stricter rules than any of you and ended up in court for breaking one. Nothing major so no looks of glee please.
So why would I be in favor of censorship?
Simple. The porn industry has it's enemies, people who want to close us all down, want us shackled, controlled so we are left with little more than a lingerie catalog level to publish. Give them the tool of linking us to child porn, real rape, snuff, S&M, web cams with girls shitting, pissing into guys mouths or visa verca and to any horrific level that will make a buck. And the anti porn people will rub their hands with joy and use it all against us. They will say look at what they do and link Twistys, OT to the most vile stuff possible.
At the moment most porn is legal in the West. Link us to the above and we're all the same. Playboy to CP to Snuff to S&M. In the eyes of too may people. And that would really threaten this industry.
Yes PJ do away with censorship and there would be people in Cambodia buying children to feature them in porn films. Because as we all know there is a lot of scum in the world.Comment
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We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination [read as 'democracy'] practiced in past centuries."
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Stay out of other families business Paul Markham
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""Thank you for your interest in Families Against Internet Censorship. I write to tell you that after thirteen years, I believe our job is done. With no regrets and many fond memories, I am shutting down FAIC.
We have come a long way since 1996. We won a unanimous decision in the Supreme Court. The ACLU honored us with a National Civil Liberties Award. First Amendment protections have been secured for online media that are as strong as those for print. The internet has become the ubiquitous medium for families that Michele and I hoped it would. Parents are getting pretty good at protecting their kids online; when today's teenagers start raising kids, they won't think twice about it. Finally, our kids are now in college, and while they're still adorable, we’re not quite the same poster family we used to be :-).
Eternal vigilance is, of course, the price of liberty. I hope families will always be aware of the risks involved in asking the government to act in loco parentis, sacrificing their freedom for the illusion of security. Should the specter of internet censorship emerge again, I hope younger parents will step forward to demand their freedom and their right to parent their children how they want, not how others think they should. But it is time to pass the torch to a younger generation. To them I wish the very best of luck, and a precious legacy of liberty in cyberspace." "
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What is your censorship IQ? I bet the kids that take this know more than half of those posting in here.
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the problem with lines like this is you try to make it like we support child rape and etc, its like race baiting. It does nothing for your argument and using illegal activity to try and debate something is silly. this is a discussion of free speech, fair use, and copyright,... not child rape. man did any of you attend a debate class???? do not try to insinuate anything about me because you disagree with me.
really, try to formulate a good example instead of jumping to child rape, geez, no one supports raping children paul, try to think a bit.Last edited by Fletch XXX; 01-19-2012, 04:50 AM.
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ps paul as someone in adult you should know, there is no such thing as snuff. and no one promotes it online. lol
good lord. theres never even been one found in existence!
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I cant stand when someone cannot hold a debate so they begin using the worlds worst examples of human actiuon as their basis for discussion.
I dont care if you suppor stealing content, no one is talking about raping children. this could be ojne of the worst human behaviors ever, now all of a sudden, you think cencorship is bad you support CP, ummm, incorrect. Try to learn debate first before participating... taking a image from a site is a misdemeanor compared to the savagery of molestation
Its race baiting but with CP.
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It helps to understand the guidelines -- there is lawful and unlawful speech but whose laws?
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/freedom-speech/
1. Introduction: Boundaries of the Debate
The topic of free speech is one of the most contentious issues in liberal societies. If the liberty to express oneself is not highly valued, as has often been the case, there is no problem: freedom of expression is simply curtailed in favor of other values. Free speech becomes a volatile issue when it is highly valued because only then do the limitations placed upon it become controversial. The first thing to note in any sensible discussion of freedom of speech is that it will have to be limited. Every society places some limits on the exercise of speech because speech always takes place within a context of competing values. In this sense, Stanley Fish is correct when he says that there is no such thing as free speech. Free speech is simply a useful term to focus our attention on a particular form of human interaction and the phrase is not meant to suggest that speech should never be interfered with. As Fish puts it, ?free speech in short, is not an independent value but a political prize? (1994,102). No society has yet existed where speech has not been limited to some extent. As John Stuart Mill argued in On Liberty, a struggle always takes place between the competing demands of liberty and authority, and we cannot have the latter without the former:
All that makes existence valuable to anyone depends on the enforcement of restraints upon the actions of other people. Some rules of conduct, therefore, must be imposed?by law in the first place, and by opinion on many things which are not fit subjects for the operation of law. (1978, 5)Comment
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