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barcodes 12-31-2011 09:47 AM

I remember when I first started plaing with cfforms, you have to point a folder from the coldfusion admin to your site folder for it to work right.

I asked him to show me as I was curious.

He went on to show me how to get in using remote access, creating folders in the site folder and setting the properties up, mime types and shit. He then went on showing me how to point the cflib folder to the newly created domain.

I didn't retain any of that and the next time I needed it pointed, in fear of fucking something up on a 650/month dedicated unmanaged box...

I just made him do it :1orglaugh
He still does it for me whenever it comes up

Best of luck to everyone involved

WebairGerard 12-31-2011 10:46 AM

I am honestly surprised to see this post. Especially since after checking with the sales person who assisted you told me that he came to an agreement and to NOT CHARGE YOU for the installation once it was determined that the install should be fairly straight forward.

As many have mentioned already a Fully Managed server does not mean that we manage client websites and 3rd party scripts/products as that is the responsibility of the webmaster. If and when assistance is needed in that regard we of course can offer solutions to help and quote for the work/time to do so.

Now if this was for something like adjustments to Apache, MySQL, etc, yes of course that is something that you would expect from a managed hosting service. Under our Fully Managed platform we manage the SERVER, and the infrastructure of your hosting environment (datacenter, redundant power, cooling, network connectivity, server hardware, 24x7 skilled technicians, physical security).

In addition to:
  • System Level Health Monitoring & Notifications
  • Core Operating System Updates & patches
  • Security Enhancements
  • Proactive Response & Restoration of Monitoring Events
  • Full Web Server Support including Apache


Plus something to keep in mind all 3rd party scripts and installs are different (not counting standard programs like WordPress,etc.) and should be looked at as case by case. Something that you *think* may be just a few minutes to install can cause other issues on the server or site and now this few minute install can easily turn into a much larger project. :2 cents:

All that said, I will wish everyone a Happy New Year! Peace, Love, and Happiness to all! :)

Jel 12-31-2011 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garce (Post 18660786)
Why? There's no fun in that.

I prefer to install my own scripts, hopelessly fuck up my server, and have the guys at AmeriNoc bail me out.

lol, same, except it's cyberwurx who are rolling their eyes every time they see a ticket from me :helpme

gleem 12-31-2011 02:13 PM

Take the money you save by not paying for any of your scraped content and hire a programmer to install a script :thumbsup

Managed hosting doesn't mean custom script installs unless it's a server level script, that's the way it's always been, welcome to the internet.

brassmonkey 12-31-2011 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem (Post 18662085)
Take the money you save by not paying for any of your scraped content and hire a programmer to install a script :thumbsup

Managed hosting doesn't mean custom script installs unless it's a server level script, that's the way it's always been, welcome to the internet.

its a free open source script

AmeliaG 12-31-2011 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garce (Post 18660786)
Why? There's no fun in that.

I prefer to install my own scripts, hopelessly fuck up my server, and have the guys at AmeriNoc bail me out.


Ha, ha, count me in for the same plan, except it is Webair bailing me out.

And, to the OP, seriously what kind of dick expects his host to do his basic script installs, has his host generously throw him a bunch of freebies, and then goes and bashes his host in public? Oh yeah, the kind of dick who steals all his content and still can't get an Alexa better than a million in the exgf niche.

epitome 12-31-2011 02:37 PM

Well I guess Naked Hosting goes above and beyond. They've installed anything I've asked for without charge and have even updated my WP installs so I didn't have to.

I'm spoiled.

Deej 12-31-2011 02:51 PM

Que up Barefootsies ... im sure hes dying to tell you how thats always standard with hosting companies unless theyre well known and established and can afford to give away "hard work" like that.


meaning hes really just trying to sell you his sub par hosting and charge for something like that that takes literally a couple minutes.

Deej 12-31-2011 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18662112)
Well I guess Naked Hosting goes above and beyond. They've installed anything I've asked for without charge and have even updated my WP installs so I didn't have to.

I'm spoiled.

Agreed! GReat hosting!

Mojo has always been good to me as well! I dont think Ive ever waited for a ticket longer than 5 minutes from either company. Usually thats a "were finished, have a nice day" ticket back.

candyflip 12-31-2011 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 18662132)
Que up Barefootsies ... im sure hes dying to tell you how thats always standard with hosting companies unless theyre well known and established and can afford to give away "hard work" like that.


meaning hes really just trying to sell you his sub par hosting and charge for something like that that takes literally a couple minutes.

We actually set up an account with him because I needed a quick place to dump some nonwork shit for a few months. I won't bother much with the details, because he would probably just refute them anyhow...but fuck what a nightmare. It ended when the HDD in the server we were sharing was seized by the FBI.

I set up a friend at the same time...so she can backup my story.

Top notch service. :1orglaugh

pumpercloggs 12-31-2011 05:11 PM

hit me up 349588486

I'll install your shit for free just so webair doesnt get payed!

gooddomains 01-01-2012 06:30 AM

webair has always been a honest hosting company, I don't see any need to complain about them

ThunderBalls 01-01-2012 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gooddomains (Post 18662806)
webair has always been a honest hosting company, I don't see any need to complain about them


Its New Years day, not April Fools day.

CurrentlySober 01-01-2012 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B.Barnato (Post 18661109)
Things like this are the reason I host exclusively with geocities and blogspot.

I cant afford to host at geocities and blogspot... :(

ArsewithClass 01-01-2012 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18660796)
It's a managed dedicated?

Yeah, they should be installing that for free.

:thumbsup www.adulthosting.com

cherrylula 01-01-2012 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18660804)
i must be an idiot, i've never asked a hosting company to install a script for me.

I'm a girl and even I can install a script.

Takes longer to ask the host to do it and wait on it. lol

SlammedMedia 01-01-2012 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebairGerard (Post 18661819)
I am honestly surprised to see this post. Especially since after checking with the sales person who assisted you told me that he came to an agreement and to NOT CHARGE YOU for the installation once it was determined that the install should be fairly straight forward.

Your guys were well aware of the simple script install before I posted on GFY, and at that point they told me they were being generous only charging me $99, instead of the normal $150. After mentioning that I had never been charged a cent for script installs in the past, and that I'd like to see some type of document of services charges (which they couldn't provide me with), they then offered to drop the charge to $49.

Almost as soon as I posted on GFY asking if this was normal (which for some reason you think was wrong), one of your guys contacted me on ICQ (after originally speaking to him on the live chat) saying they'd do the install for free.

So I'm not overly sure what you're surprised about.

Barefootsies 01-01-2012 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18660961)
I always looked at a managed server as meaning they'll manage the SERVER, not manage the sites or install and configure uninjured amounts of third party scripts.

Sure if you're a long term customer they might do one as a favor every now and again, but I wouldn't expect them to be doing it all the time without charging for it. This if only because some scripts can take an hour or more to set up, then the webmaster changes their mind and wants a different one, etc. I wouldn't WANT to pay enough of a premium to cover unlimited work like that. The 90% of customers who don't need the extra hand holding would be paying for what they don't need.

This is the best answer.

I am sure most web hosting companies do not give a shit about those two second installations, that have well documented dependencies, and what not. Some of them are so easy you unpack, and 99% of it's done.

However, there are an endless number of scripts out there with little to no documentation. Additionally, they (the owner/script writer) does not license and pay for some of the dependencies and want you to rope-a-dope a bunch of free shit together to get their product to work (this is NOTORIOUS on media scripts). There are a number of others that have settings that you would not typically have off/on as they create possible security issues.

In short, expecting a host to be the 'tech support' for tens of thousands of various scripts out there on the market is unrealistic. Especially considering that many are complete crap and leaving it to the customer and web host to figure out the riddles of making their script work without proper documentation is madness.

:2 cents:

Babaganoosh 01-01-2012 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlammedCash (Post 18662946)
Your guys were well aware of the simple script install before I posted on GFY, and at that point they told me they were being generous only charging me $99, instead of the normal $150. After mentioning that I had never been charged a cent for script installs in the past, and that I'd like to see some type of document of services charges (which they couldn't provide me with), they then offered to drop the charge to $49.

Almost as soon as I posted on GFY asking if this was normal (which for some reason you think was wrong), one of your guys contacted me on ICQ (after originally speaking to him on the live chat) saying they'd do the install for free.

So I'm not overly sure what you're surprised about.

I'm surprised that someone can be so completely and utterly helpless, incompetent and downright stupid.

SuckOnThis 01-01-2012 11:42 AM

Script install or no script install Webair still sucks.


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