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Old 12-28-2011, 05:18 PM   #51
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I deliver pizza now, not that I need the job anymore but its fun when you're bored.. I get tipped more than everyone since I know everyone in the area since before delivering and I take 20 mins average so it all depends. Plus my good friends that tip big and pack up a bong are the best (I make about $150 in tips per night + $8/hr)
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you are joking the delivery driver here get $28 per hour.
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owww i miss papa john's so much the pizza there is just amazing. and when you get the jalapeño in the box it ads to the perfection.
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Old 12-28-2011, 08:22 PM   #59
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This thread inspired me to order pizza.
For delivery, I like Dominos. Their new Feta spinach cheese bread is good.

Bacon, ham and pineapple please!


The tip, usually $5. The guy that always delivers to me is pretty quick. Younger kid and just bought a brand new car.
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Some people argue with me that Pizzahuts thin crust pizza with grease puddles all over it is better than Papa Johns, it's really hard being their friend.
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I haven't had a good pizza in over 20 years. Pizza Hut, Dominoes, Papa John's and every other fast food pizza joint is utterly disgusting.

I always end up with a 1/2 inch of uncooked dough underneath my toppings even though I tell them I want it "extra well done". What happened to the regular crust that was crisp underneath, cooked thoroughly and didn't flop over.

And what's up with this cheese that doesn't even stretch. Remember when you could sit down in a pizza hut and when you took a slice the cheese was all gooey and hot and melted? Now it's like a layer of mold that just holds the toppings together.

Does real pizza not exist anymore?
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Old 12-28-2011, 08:52 PM   #62
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I haven't had a good pizza in over 20 years. Pizza Hut, Dominoes, Papa John's and every other fast food pizza joint is utterly disgusting.

I always end up with a 1/2 inch of uncooked dough underneath my toppings even though I tell them I want it "extra well done". What happened to the regular crust that was crisp underneath, cooked thoroughly and didn't flop over.

And what's up with this cheese that doesn't even stretch. Remember when you could sit down in a pizza hut and when you took a slice the cheese was all gooey and hot and melted? Now it's like a layer of mold that just holds the toppings together.

Does real pizza not exist anymore?
With any national chain you're going to get mostly generic stuff meant to vaguely appeal to everyone and not offend anyone.
You have to find a good, local specialty pizza place.
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Old 12-28-2011, 09:27 PM   #63
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My Wife took a liking to the "Big Sausage Pizza" delivery guy for some reason and keeps tipping him very well
i hope you don't have dinner with her. may have some extra sauce on that pizza
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With any national chain you're going to get mostly generic stuff meant to vaguely appeal to everyone and not offend anyone.
You have to find a good, local specialty pizza place.
QFT. Althought Papa Johns is still my favorite, there are a select few restaurants that have some great tasting pizza that you absolutely will not find at any "pizza place".
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So Papa Johns now has the $2 delivery fee that isn't going to the driver.

How is the driver paid though... Decent hourly wage and mileage?

I always try to tip $5 for a delivery but if there is a fee I subtract from that. I give the papa johns driver $3.

I never know if it is enough. Any insight?
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So Papa Johns now has the $2 delivery fee that isn't going to the driver.

How is the driver paid though... Decent hourly wage and mileage?

I always try to tip $5 for a delivery but if there is a fee I subtract from that. I give the papa johns driver $3.

I never know if it is enough. Any insight?
Yea $5 is what I give them... and Dominoes charges $2.25 for delivery. I only know because I got a couple free ones after sending feedback about the raw and cold pizza I got from them.
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So Papa Johns now has the $2 delivery fee that isn't going to the driver.

How is the driver paid though... Decent hourly wage and mileage?

I always try to tip $5 for a delivery but if there is a fee I subtract from that. I give the papa johns driver $3.

I never know if it is enough. Any insight?
This was a while back but when I delivered pizzas in college about 5 years ago they paid X amount per delivery, about $1 and minimum wage plus tips. Yeah, you wind up making about $25 per hour but you're also tearing the shit out of your car and you're almost certain to get beat up and robbed at least once if you're lucky.
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30,000+ deliveries 6 1/2 years nightshift with Dominos in the 90s.

$5 today would be a very good tip. $3 a decent tip.

Back then $2 was a decent tip. $1 was ave (at best).

Worst tippers: College kids (espec guys) and overtly religious people with their porches and windows decked out with pictures of The Lord.

Best tippers: Gays all the way around and guys staying at hotels/motels. Espec if the guy is alone is often even better. I guess they related.

Never got mugged. Did have a scrap or two. Falls were actually a way bigger concern. Had a few (2-3) bad falls and many light falls.

In the beginning I "hustled" which was disaster waiting to happen. In the end I was the slowest but never made mistakes which managers love.

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So Papa Johns now has the $2 delivery fee that isn't going to the driver.

How is the driver paid though... Decent hourly wage and mileage?

I always try to tip $5 for a delivery but if there is a fee I subtract from that. I give the papa johns driver $3.

I never know if it is enough. Any insight?
I work for a big chain and I make $8/hr plus $1.15 per delivery from the delivery fee and tips are average around $3, $5-25 for bigger orders, which is great and I'm averaging around $20-30/hr all together with about 30-35 deliveries a night.

My friends at Papa Johns don't like us since we make a lot more than them, though...
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Falls happen and the worst happened when I assumed in twilight that the cement in a dorm parking lot was level when in fact it dropped about 1 foot for a slight ramp.

If you are running and dont realize there is a 1 foot drop, you are gonna f' your knee up almost for sure.

It is the drops that get you not the stuff you trip over altho that can happen too but then you can roll. lol Sometimes a pie got jumbled and returned. Shouts to all the old or new drivers

10 hour shifts and 4th floors with no elevators (lots of them) kept me a constant 250-255 at 6'3 even tho I lived on "crew pies". And Dominos is one of the most fattening espec if you eat the crust at all.

I wasnt MMA condition but noone f'd with me for the most part. But of course I kissed ass and yet it still happens.

Tho 6-3 at 255 I was still a lil chubby and guys would cock off from time to time. Get the money and get out of there was the creedo.

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Falls happen and the worst happened when I assumed in twilight that the cement in a dorm parking lot was level when in fact it dropped about 1 foot for a slight ramp.

If you are running and dont realize there is a 1 foot drop, you are gonna f' your knee up almost for sure.

It is the drops that get you not the stuff you trip over altho that can happen too but then you can roll. lol Sometimes a pie got jumbled and returned. Shouts to all the old or new drivers
That sucks. I've only had one fall when delivering one pie by slipping on some ice hard and I flung the bag pretty high and it landed perfectly flat. So I delivered it anyways and it was a group of gay guys and one of them opened the box (Somehow it survived) and he said "This smells delicious!" and tipped me $8.
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i m in village and no pizza delivers pizza here., sucks.,
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Do they still allow you to throw a couple slices of a crew pie on top of the hot bag and head out the door.

Best part of the job. Cook burns a pizza, usually send it anyhow hehe but sometimes crew pie!

I come back from the "longest run" (I pleade the 5th on the grounds that it may incrim.. drivers hear me tho) and crew pie!

Fun job all in all. Got to be a driver tho. Inside sucks.
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That sucks. I've only had one fall when delivering one pie by slipping on some ice hard and I flung the bag pretty high and it landed perfectly flat. So I delivered it anyways and it was a group of gay guys and one of them opened the box (Somehow it survived) and he said "This smells delicious!" and tipped me $8.
Usually the pizzas stay together. Every driver will admit we have had to look at a few and maybe shufle one in place. I had it all happen tho and sometime they were just goulash

There ya go. Usually you cant really tell they are gay for sure but you have a sense maybe and yeah they tend to tip at least something.

I had a College in my area so that slowed tips down but then again kept us going on slow nights.

As I posted before i still dream of delivering from time to time. But I always f something up royally like being gone 2 hours or something lol

Pizza guy nightmares I guess. But I really just want to deliver a few pies again. Great job.

I was always the slowest guy in the place even when the manager at the beginning was making me "hustle" out to the car lol. I eventually put my foot down on that. No hustling. Just error free ball. F'n some of these guys are terrors tho both inside and out of the car. They run em all and speed like a mutha.

I avd $10 an hour in 1995. $4.90/hour plus 6% commission on $$$ delivered plus keep all tips. Id deliver $400 on a good 10 hour night. Others would go $600-700. But I never made mistakes.

To the manager it was a tradeoff. You also have to take orders correctly always. In the end they loved me even tho I was slow. I knew the area like the back of my hand.

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...or just go pick it up yourself.
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Do you have any idea how fricken spoiled you are down there? Brooklyn, Magpies...oh man....ROADTRIP.
If you did make it out this way there are at least a dozen cheap and awesome places to order pizza from in manhattan and brooklyn that are worthy of an afternoon.
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Some people argue with me that Pizzahuts thin crust pizza with grease puddles all over it is better than Papa Johns, it's really hard being their friend.
That is sad. Whoever has had this argument should experience real pizza at least once. Be it NY or... ::shudder:: chicago style.
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And lets not forget rushes. (no not the kind you got while on the longest run )

You arrive back after your first run at 5:20 pm. Manager has about 9 pizzas in 4 hot bags.

In the car now with a stack in the front seat, you (the rookie ) have to shuffle them and do the run. This is the hardest part.

Once you got that down.. of course we ARE Dominos and we mean 30 mins or less. So when you got that down, piece of cake. Dont have that down.. nightmare. Call, call. No cell phones then. Find a pay phone.

So the first year was kind of a pain.

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Falls happen and the worst happened when I assumed in twilight that the cement in a dorm parking lot was level when in fact it dropped about 1 foot for a slight ramp.

If you are running and dont realize there is a 1 foot drop, you are gonna f' your knee up almost for sure.

It is the drops that get you not the stuff you trip over altho that can happen too but then you can roll. lol Sometimes a pie got jumbled and returned. Shouts to all the old or new drivers

10 hour shifts and 4th floors with no elevators (lots of them) kept me a constant 250-255 at 6'3 even tho I lived on "crew pies". And Dominos is one of the most fattening espec if you eat the crust at all.

I wasnt MMA condition but noone f'd with me for the most part. But of course I kissed ass and yet it still happens.

Tho 6-3 at 255 I was still a lil chubby and guys would cock off from time to time. Get the money and get out of there was the creedo.
Was any/all of this during one of your drag phases? I couldn't even imagine cement like you describe in heals.
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And lets not forget rushes. You arrive back after your first run at 5:20 pm. Manager has about 9 pizzas in 4 hot bags.

In the car now with a stack in the front seat, now you (the rookie ) have to shuffle them and do the run. This is the hardest part.

Once you got that down.. of course we ARE Dominos and we mean 30 mins or less. So when you got that down, piece of cake. Dont have that down.. nightmare. Call, call. No cell phones then. Find a pay phone.

So the first year was kind of a pain.
They stopped doing the 30 min or less a very long time ago when a driver killed someone.
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OK thanks. That was prob a good idea.

The consternation of delivering a 29 min pizza was a pain but I delivered a ton of 28-29 min pizzas.

Always honored the $3 off. Was really no big deal. We all had 2-3 "lates" a night.
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Was any/all of this during one of your drag phases? I couldn't even imagine cement like you describe in heals.
LOL The shit people remember But yeah. Might have overlapped a year or two. Drag late 80s. Pizzas early 90's.

You're gonna blow my macho appearance here

No drag on the job tho. Only in my youthful fantasies.
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This thread so needs some Harry Chapin or Lou Reed vids.

Maybe some young Jodie Foster or something.
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Nope. They charge $11 for delivery and they don't handle cash. A pizza is $40-50 up here anyway so I'd rather make my own
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Honest to God, I threw it all out about 1991. Seriously. But I was a kinky fuck up till then.
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This thread so needs some Harry Chapin or Lou Reed vids.

Maybe some young Jodie Foster or something.
I used to live with a woman who thought the rape scene from The Accused was the hottest thing ever filmed.

I miss her.
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Old 12-29-2011, 03:07 AM   #88
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Still am. I just wised up and realized I cant get caught with all this shit.

Now I kind of wish I would have kept some stuff.


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Old 12-29-2011, 03:10 AM   #89
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OK thanks. That was prob a good idea.

The consternation of delivering a 29 min pizza was a pain but I delivered a ton of 28-29 min pizzas.

Always honored the $3 off. Was really no big deal. We all had 2-3 "lates" a night.
When I was 8-12 or so it was free if it wasn't there within 30 mins. I used to set a timer and everything. There was no $3 off, but we did tip well on those occasions.
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Old 12-29-2011, 03:11 AM   #90
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LOL The shit people remember But yeah. Might have overlapped a year or two. Drag late 80s. Pizzas early 90's.

You're gonna blow my macho appearance here

No drag on the job tho. Only in my youthful fantasies.
Sorry but yeah, crossdressing tended to stick out in my mind about you. Sorry.
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Old 12-29-2011, 03:13 AM   #91
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Honest to God, I threw it all out about 1991. Seriously. But I was a kinky fuck up till then.
pfft. I was a hooker for my high school's 8th grade halloween party. That couldn't have been more than 94 or so.
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Old 12-29-2011, 03:21 AM   #92
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I used to live with a woman who thought the rape scene from The Accused was the hottest thing ever filmed.

I miss her.
Hehe I got that clip. That is pretty hot too.

GFY is for the lonely.

prob the first jpg I dl'd on the internet in the 90s



actually the orig was a bit fuzzier


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Old 12-29-2011, 03:24 AM   #93
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Hehe I got that clip. That is pretty hot too.

GFY is for the lonely.

prob the first jpg I dl'd on the internet in the 90s



as long as you don't try to assassinate the president to impress her, i think we're ok.
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Old 12-29-2011, 03:37 AM   #94
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pfft. I was a hooker for my high school's 8th grade halloween party. That couldn't have been more than 94 or so.
LOL Cool! Now I dont feel so bad.

Hey. Some of us want to know what it is like.. in private. You have to be young tho. And good looking

And you cant talk about it till 15 years later.

Doesnt mean we dont like girls. We actually like em a lil too much. We want to know what it is like to be one. Not for sex or anything with males but hopefully for sex with females, which of course never happens unless you pay for it.

The desire wears off as the years go on.

It helps to be the late 80s with sex all over hell, great 80's music, on a bit of RUSH, (amyl nitrate I think it is right) going to adult book stores, staying at cheap hotels on major City Avenues for days, all these lil sex boutiques, smoking dope all day everyday, maybe some white cross.

A country boy in the large city. 1989 was a fantastic year for me.


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Old 12-29-2011, 03:58 AM   #95
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as long as you don't try to assassinate the president to impress her, i think we're ok.
LOL OK Thanks man. You have a great dry sense of humor

I also have a pretty bad female foot fetish. Actually way more than transvestitism. Tv'ism was just a fad for a bit.

Dont ask me where it comes from.

It was an aquired taste that happened in College. Hmm. EVERY girl pranced around in the highest heels in the 80s.

i regret gf's whose feet got away



I wasnt into it at all in my teens.

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OK this has been "Confessions of Your Pizza Guy"

Back to your reg sched programming.
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I haven't had a good pizza in over 20 years. Pizza Hut, Dominoes, Papa John's and every other fast food pizza joint is utterly disgusting.

I always end up with a 1/2 inch of uncooked dough underneath my toppings even though I tell them I want it "extra well done". What happened to the regular crust that was crisp underneath, cooked thoroughly and didn't flop over.

And what's up with this cheese that doesn't even stretch. Remember when you could sit down in a pizza hut and when you took a slice the cheese was all gooey and hot and melted? Now it's like a layer of mold that just holds the toppings together.

Does real pizza not exist anymore?
yes. who orders from these cornball fast food pizza joints anyway? go yo your local italian or greek resteraunt anf you'll be ok.
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what he said - there isn't a small town i've ever been in that doesn't have at least a couple of mom and pop pizza places that make pizza 100 times better than a chain can.

i grew up in a pizza heaven, small city with a very large Italian immigrant population, there were half a dozen mom and pop pizza joints plus another 4 or 5 full service Italain food restaurants - all food made from scratch and mamma's recipe.

the best was from an old tavern/hotel called the Rex which had Pizza Alley- to get to the pizza part you went past the beverage room with old WWII bastards and high school kids drinking draft beer - god i loved the smell of stale beer, sometimes vomit, cigarettes and Italian food, i can smell it now.

one of our Italian neighbors was the sister of the guy who owned the Rex, the tomato sauce was home made and the tomatoes flown in fresh from California. to look at the pizza which only came in one size you'd think it would suck, it wasn't made to look good but to taste good.

all that said, for convenience and laziness and cost, i mostly order pizza from the chains.

i hate tipping, not because i begrudge the delivery guys making a decent buck, the pizza place should be paying them a good wage not passing the cost of delivery on to me via tipping the driver, I already pay enough for the food. 2 bucks is what I give.
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Do you tip the pizza delivery guy and how much???
i never do as the pizza is normally cold, squashed or late.
I throw em 2-3 buck usually.
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Old 12-29-2011, 07:11 AM   #100
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You realize the delivery driver doesn't get the delivery fee don't you?
Not my problem.
Here in Thailand when I go to a local restaurant I get a bill and I tip when I got to Bangkok most places add tax and tip to the bill, 15-20% on top of the advertised price and then I do not tip since it obviously included in the price and if the restaurant do not pass it on to their employees not my problem I am not paying 30-40% more than the advertised price.
The whole being forced to tip is a silly idea, pay your employees what they deserve so they do not rely on the tip and don't put me your customer in a situation where I feel like I am forced to tip to get decent service.
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