If the election was held today. Paul or Obama

Maybe so, but I will take being an asshole over being a blind dumb fuck like yourself any day.

Are you still in the 14th grade?

You need to get yourself some knowledge so you do not continue to embarrass yourself.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/28/op...-campaign.html

You might not be able to understand this editorial so you might want to get a grown-up to help you with the big words.

Ummmm... let me get this straight. I said:

"Maybe so, but I will take being an asshole over being a blind dumb fuck like yourself any day."

And your reply was:

Boy, what a great retort. You sure put me in my place and embarrassed me. Clearly you are intellectually superior to me. I am humbled in your presence and stand corrected.

Oh, by the way dumbass- there is no such thing as "14th grade" imbecile.

Thank you for clarifying why you are an Obama supporter.

Holy... fucking... Christ.

Put down the crack pipe bro. Seriously-

Don't have the balls or are smart enough to know HE WOULD NEVER WIN?

I suspect the latter.

Obama only betrayed those that believed and voted for him. He did not betray me.

I support Ron Paul and his racist newsletters.

That would be fucking awesome.

My first line, about not having the balls, is essentially a childish, tho rhetorically effective, taunt. I know the republicans won't nominate Paul, making this whole discussion essentially pointless and moot. But taunting them to nominate him has it's satisfactions.

And if they did nominate him it would, you must admit, be hilarious.

By definition obama only betrayed those who voted for him. He did everything the republicans wanted, so by definition he did not betray republican voters.

He did betray people like me.

What has he specifically done that the Republicans wanted?

kept open gitmo, extended tax cuts, extended patriot act, caved on tax hikes for rich, let wall street banks off the hook, caved on elizabeth warren appointment.

Yup, and now he's onboard with WWIII... ummm, I mean, war with Iran, for no good fucking reason whatsoever.

Let's see how much more he can disappoint his progressive base during his second term...

Democrats also voted in favor of the things that you have mentioned...he had little choice in the matters.

what joshgirls said is good enough an answer I suppose - my immediate thought was that it's easier to name the few things he did the republicans did not want, like the personal banking and credit card regulations passed the first year. They were riddled with loopholes, and the regulations were written by wall street insiders, but, it was not republican.

If you have some favorite event or decision that you'd like to offer as a refutation of obama's essential republicanism, state it, I'll look at it.

My judgement is not based on one thing but on an ongoing series of capitulations. I can't think of a single time he stood on principle. Everything is political expediency and doing what wall street told him to do.

But, I am not a centrist, or a moderate, or a center-right safety-netter like the majority of democrat voters, I am a radical progressive with specific interests in science, technology, energy, futurism, and competing in the global economy.

For my interests, obama was a disaster, and I hate the fucker. No matter what happens, I will never put a mark next to his name on a ballot again. Nor will I give money to the democratic party, and I give a lot of money to political causes. Fuck them.

He had the choice of leading. He had the choice of standing up and saying - this is wrong.

He has been a follower, a pet of wall street and the corporations and monied families that are the power behind the democratic party, who are in no meaningful way better than the monied powers behind the republican party.

What you offer as a defense is actually a condemnation.

It means the dems are exactly the weak girly pussy party the republicans claim. They use that frame in their rhetoric very effectively.

We didn't need or want a pussy president. Especially following bush, whom the republican idiots thought was a tough guy, but who was actually a gigantic pussy; all hat, no cattle.

I think you need to repeat the 14th grade my friend