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Old 12-20-2011, 12:02 PM   #51
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I thought the point of digital media was to make it difficult to pirate - my bad. Back to my bday.
hey happy birthday borked!

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Old 12-20-2011, 12:04 PM   #52
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Christ, there are some serious crimes committed with less of a sentence. Not that he shouldn't be punished, but prison time for 1 movie, yikes. The movie and music industry are puppet masters on the level with the banks in this country.
At least movie studios actually create something, so they deserve any money they make -- as opposed to bankers and financial industry scum, who basically skim money from wherever they can leech on to it. Big difference.
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Not name calling at all, you are a slithering two headed snake.
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Old 12-20-2011, 12:33 PM   #55
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yet someone who abuses a child typically doesn't even get a year in jail. i guess kids are worth less than movies in this society. pretty sad.
They don't? What backwards area do you live in?
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The guy that uploaded the nearly finished workprint of the wolverine movie in 2009 just got sentenced to 1 year in prison for doing so. I doubt it will have any impact on pirating, but it is good to see people actually paying a price for their crimes.
He'll be out in 3 months in other words? lol.

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Old 12-20-2011, 01:11 PM   #58
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He'll be out in 3 months in other words? lol.
TRUE!!!

A little secret : He would serve more time if he had been sentenced to 6 months!
Sentences under 1 year are not eligible for 2-3 days off for every 1 day good behavior.

The dude's lawyer probably begged to get one year instead of six months.


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I keep seeing people say that convicted child molesters get less time.... bullshit
You guys care to show all the cases where a CONVICTED child molestor got less?
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,181498,00.html

Cashman sentenced a child molester to 60 days of jail time — a sentence he said was designed to ensure the man got prompt sex-offender treatment.
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:16 PM   #61
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people saying he should have got less because 'insert criminal here' only got 'insert sentence here' are fucking morons...
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1 case that was an exception doesn't equal what was being insinuated over and over
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Old 12-20-2011, 03:45 PM   #63
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1 case that was an exception doesn't equal what was being insinuated over and over
seriously you just had someone prove their statement is 100% true and you bitching because it not the majority

no one said it was the majority, they just said that a convicted child molester got less time
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I keep seeing people say that convicted child molesters get less time.... bullshit
You guys care to show all the cases where a CONVICTED child molestor got less?
60 days for a convicted child molester:

http://www.vnews.com/sexcrimes/sentencing.htm

Do you know how to use google?
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gideongallery and damianj

I specifically said that it was being insinuated in this thread that child molesters routinely got less time than a year. And that's just not true.

As for this guy...he will be out in far less than a years time for sure. But he deserved what he got. It's called stealing.
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:15 PM   #66
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1 year is fair, that one movie upload cost the producers millions of dollars in lost profit. Thousand downloaded the film online, millions bought the pirated dvd copy of the film...
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:17 PM   #67
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1 year is fair, that one movie upload cost the producers millions of dollars in lost profit. Thousand downloaded the film online, millions bought the pirated dvd copy of the film...
And even if it didn't cost them one penny...it was still STEALING.
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:43 PM   #68
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I specifically said that it was being insinuated in this thread that child molesters routinely got less time than a year. And that's just not true.
As for this guy...he will be out in far less than a years time for sure. But he deserved what he got. It's called stealing.
C'mon man, you know that gideon and damian are full of shit by this time right?
I mean you got Damian in this thread simultaneously defending pirate tactics and then saying they should be punished...all in the same post

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lets hope it's a year of hard time & not club fed
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He caused maybe millions in damages.
Totally. Between the thousands of people who dl'ed that horrible movie and the word of mouth from the people who saw it about how horrible it was, they had to miss out huge on a first weekend opening anyway.
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I don't "hate" pirates. I understand why they do it, it is illegal and I think they should be punished. Assuming one can prove a crime was committed.

Do you not think there should be any laws or punishments then?

PS are you actually laughing out loud when you type LOL? Seems odd.

PPS too slow on your edit, LOL
Personally I rarely ever actually LOL or ROFLMAO or even just ROFL when I type it. Maybe 5%.
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Will make for some very awkward "what are you in for?" conversation in the prison yard. He may as well get his butthole widened before he goes in.

It's a weird thing -- this urge to upload a movie on the internet for everyone. What does the guy get out of it, besides some kind of sticking-it-to-the-man/Robin Hood sense of accomplishment. Or is that it?
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moral of the story - ADMIT to nothing.

idiot admitted to it.
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yet someone who abuses a child typically doesn't even get a year in jail. i guess kids are worth less than movies in this society. pretty sad.
Ummm, perhaps the answer here is to up the penalties for child abuse.

Something which, btw, should have been done right from the get go.
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I specifically said that it was being insinuated in this thread that child molesters routinely got less time than a year. And that's just not true.

As for this guy...he will be out in far less than a years time for sure. But he deserved what he got. It's called stealing.
If i have some spare time i could post a good 25 from the last few years alone. i see these stories all the time in the news.
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Ummm, perhaps the answer here is to up the penalties for child abuse.

Something which, btw, should have been done right from the get go.
property is worth more than people. its always been this way unfortunately. some poor ghetto kid who got molested isn't worth near as much in society as a movie that will net a billion dollars over the course of 10 years.
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If i have some spare time i could post a good 25 from the last few years alone. i see these stories all the time in the news.
I'm just thinking..that every time I turn around they are throwing the book at everybody for every damn thing. lol

I rarely see a judge use any discretion in the cases I see on the news...well, except when they want to present the story as a "shocking" case of an inept Judge.

Plus they change the damn definitions of stuff too. When they are arresting 21 year old guys for having sex with their 16 year old girlfriends and calling it the same thing as a guy raping a baby, it gets hard to differentiate.

Anyway...I think the guy got what was coming to him in this case. And probably had a good lawyer to get off as light as he did. He outright STOLE that film and tried to damage the studio by releasing it for free.
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Jesus fuck it's amazing how people get baited into these nonsensical comparisons...

What the fuck do child abuse laws have to do with the case in point? Just because child abuse laws are weak has nothing to do with this twat getting a year for grand theft.

He got a year and should have got more.

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I'm just thinking..that every time I turn around they are throwing the book at everybody for every damn thing. lol

I rarely see a judge use any discretion in the cases I see on the news...well, except when they want to present the story as a "shocking" case of an inept Judge.

Plus they change the damn definitions of stuff too. When they are arresting 21 year old guys for having sex with their 16 year old girlfriends and calling it the same thing as a guy raping a baby, it gets hard to differentiate.

Anyway...I think the guy got what was coming to him in this case. And probably had a good lawyer to get off as light as he did. He outright STOLE that film and tried to damage the studio by releasing it for free.
Yeah, it seems like - at least for me - most of the stories I see or hear about are just the opposite and it is people getting crazy sentences for stupid shit like a guy getting 5 years for stealing a sandwich or the case where the guy was 17 and had sex with a 15 year old at a party and got 10 year for it even though she was the aggressor.

From my own experience I had my identity stolen a few years back and the guy that did it had two prior felony convictions. One for identity theft and one for assault. He also had a warrant for domestic violence for beating the hell out of his girlfriend. When they caught him the prosecutor cute him a deal. Instead of trying two cases (the domestic/assault and identity theft) he pleaded guilty to the assault charges and they let him off with much lighter stuff on the identity theft charges. He got 9 months. So a guy with 4 felony convictions ended up serving just 9 months. However, they did this to make sure he had 2 felony convictions that were violent crimes. This way if he does it again it is part of the three strikes rule and he goes away for at least 25 years.
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they have done study after study and punishment does not deter crime.

nor does the death penalty.

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There mere fact that I havent killed anyone yet disproves their studies. Because I have sure wanted to. The thought of going to prison has been the only thing that has stopped me.

So, I say that it does work.
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Fuck the thief, he didn't get enough time.......should have gotten 5 to 10 for grand larceny.
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And even if it didn't cost them one penny...it was still STEALING.
explain this to get copyright infringement fit into your stealing box you have to stretch it to include "Taking away profit"

and now your saying even if it didn't take away as single penny it would still be stealing.

if i steal something you don't have it anymore
a copy doesn't take anything, if i copy your shit you still have your shit.
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explain this to get copyright infringement fit into your stealing box you have to stretch it to include "Taking away profit"

and now your saying even if it didn't take away as single penny it would still be stealing.

if i steal something you don't have it anymore
a copy doesn't take anything, if i copy your shit you still have your shit.
Imagine there is a parking lot in downtown Chicago... the parking there costs $10/hr, there are 10 floors there, and 1000s of spaces, it's never full, in fact it's never even half full...

you park there and few hours later drive out without paying, did you "steal" anything in that case? Do you find anything wrong with not paying for this parking? After all, by using your logic you:
a. didn't "steal" anything, right?
b. didn't take anyone's profit, right?
c. didn't harm the owner in anyway? one could even argue that you even helped him? you parking there for free made the parking lot appear more busy, and so it appeared safer to park there, generating more business for the parking owner?
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explain this to get copyright infringement fit into your stealing box you have to stretch it to include "Taking away profit"

and now your saying even if it didn't take away as single penny it would still be stealing.

if i steal something you don't have it anymore
a copy doesn't take anything, if i copy your shit you still have your shit.
You really like to twist shit around to your advantage. Get this straight bonebrain -- when you pay for a CD, DVD, Book, or whatever -- you are paying for the ability to put it into your stinking eye/ear holes, so it goes into your simple brain to get enjoyment from it. Having a physical version is just a bonus so that you can further enjoy it in the future. Just because you have a copy of it, doesn't mean that you can now be a distributor of that person't work, whether to make income from it, or just let masses of non-payers see it for free.

Many of those freeloaders are potential paying customers, and don't give us the "they wouldn't have bought it anyway" argument. I can honestly say that when I've downloaded an album or movie(in the past), I WAS going to buy it -- but I took the cheap route. My philosophy has changed in the last several years, because I realize someone has to pay the people that make the shit I like to consume.

When you pay to see a movie in the theater, do you get a print of the movie to take home, and redsitribute for whatever fucked up reason you may have to do that?

Please show us anything that you ever created, that is 100% yours and came from your mind. Anything.
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I'm just thinking..that every time I turn around they are throwing the book at everybody for every damn thing. lol

I rarely see a judge use any discretion in the cases I see on the news...well, except when they want to present the story as a "shocking" case of an inept Judge.

Plus they change the damn definitions of stuff too. When they are arresting 21 year old guys for having sex with their 16 year old girlfriends and calling it the same thing as a guy raping a baby, it gets hard to differentiate.

Anyway...I think the guy got what was coming to him in this case. And probably had a good lawyer to get off as light as he did. He outright STOLE that film and tried to damage the studio by releasing it for free.
I am not talking about some 20 something year old guy fucking teenage girls but middle aged men and young boys but regardless the main problem with these kinds of cases is the prosecution making deals if they plead guilty, resulting in them serving much less time than they should but yes like others have said it really has nothing to do with this case but its just a sad reality that has bothered me for a lifetime that property crimes often seem to carry a harsher sentence than crimes against people. and like i said in an earlier post, if the guy actually physically stole it or hacked into whatever and stole it, then sure the punishment seems reasonable. however if he just downloaded it from somwhere else and then uploaded, its retarded and just another example of the justice system working only for those with money.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:01 PM   #91
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I am not talking about some 20 something year old guy fucking teenage girls but middle aged men and young boys but regardless the main problem with these kinds of cases is the prosecution making deals if they plead guilty, resulting in them serving much less time than they should but yes like others have said it really has nothing to do with this case but its just a sad reality that has bothered me for a lifetime that property crimes often seem to carry a harsher sentence than crimes against people. and like i said in an earlier post, if the guy actually physically stole it or hacked into whatever and stole it, then sure the punishment seems reasonable. however if he just downloaded it from somwhere else and then uploaded, its retarded and just another example of the justice system working only for those with money.
Imagine a hypothetical situation in no way connected to piracy... someone knowingly causes millions $$ in damage, lets say for example vandalizes some property which will take millions to repair, what should a fair punishment be?
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:06 PM   #92
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Imagine a hypothetical situation in no way connected to piracy... someone knowingly causes millions $$ in damage, lets say for example vandalizes some property which will take millions to repair, what should a fair punishment be?
I would imagine the punishment should be similar to that of a corporation that destroys the enviroment and makes people sick..oh thats right they don't get punished and if they ever do, its only monetarily.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:12 PM   #93
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I would imagine the punishment should be similar to that of a corporation that destroys the enviroment and makes people sick..oh thats right they don't get punished and if they ever do, its only monetarily.
well, but answer the question, what happens to corporations has nothing to do with the question at hand... imagine you are a judge, some idiot vandalizes 100s of homes in your neighborhood causing millions in damages, what would you do with him? set him free with no punishment because corporations get away with worse crimes?
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:15 PM   #94
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well, but answer the question, what happens to corporations has nothing to do with the question at hand... imagine you are a judge, some idiot vandalizes 100s of homes in your neighborhood causing millions in damages, what would you do with him? set him free with no punishment because corporations get away with worse crimes?
Obviously not but it also depends on what kind of methods used to cause the damage. Arson should carry a much harsher penalty than just smashing/breaking a bunch of stuff. my point is the justice system doesn't work for the average person. its become a farce and is just about protecting the assets and rights of those with the most money. money=justice, otherwise good luck. when will people start to admit the justice system provides little of any justice?
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:05 PM   #96
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Imagine there is a parking lot in downtown Chicago... the parking there costs $10/hr, there are 10 floors there, and 1000s of spaces, it's never full, in fact it's never even half full...

you park there and few hours later drive out without paying, did you "steal" anything in that case? Do you find anything wrong with not paying for this parking? After all, by using your logic you:
a. didn't "steal" anything, right?
b. didn't take anyone's profit, right?
c. didn't harm the owner in anyway? one could even argue that you even helped him? you parking there for free made the parking lot appear more busy, and so it appeared safer to park there, generating more business for the parking owner?
is it stealing no

is it fraud absolutely because your claiming you have a right to park there even though you do not

like i have repeatedly said copyright infringement is fraud not theft.

the parking lot example is a right of access issue
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:15 PM   #97
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You really like to twist shit around to your advantage. Get this straight bonebrain -- when you pay for a CD, DVD, Book, or whatever -- you are paying for the ability to put it into your stinking eye/ear holes, so it goes into your simple brain to get enjoyment from it. Having a physical version is just a bonus so that you can further enjoy it in the future. Just because you have a copy of it, doesn't mean that you can now be a distributor of that person't work, whether to make income from it, or just let masses of non-payers see it for free.
Exactly i am not buying the content i am buying the right to listen to it.

IT doesn't matter if that right to listen is the cd i originally got when i purchased that right

a copy i made on my own computer, or torrented mp3

I paid for the right to listen to that music period not for the content you gave me.


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Many of those freeloaders are potential paying customers, and don't give us the "they wouldn't have bought it anyway" argument. I can honestly say that when I've downloaded an album or movie(in the past), I WAS going to buy it -- but I took the cheap route. My philosophy has changed in the last several years, because I realize someone has to pay the people that make the shit I like to consume.

When you pay to see a movie in the theater, do you get a print of the movie to take home, and redsitribute for whatever fucked up reason you may have to do that?
did i ever say "i wouldn't have bought it anyway"

that argument was never made ever

this was an example of a version that was NEVER SOLD AT ALL

There was no where you could buy the WORKPRINT.

there was no sale lost at all because it was never for sale in that form.

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Stan lee admitted that he based the x-men the real world struggle of African Americans attempt to get equality

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magneto was Malcolm X

so the movie your talking about was not 100% created from the mind of the creator.

so your asking for something that is impossible to produce

no one is ever going to create something that came 100% from your mind because your mind derives everything from what it observes around it.
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gideongallery, you are the most uncreative and useless person I've ever encountered. And you show the kind of person you are each and every time you post on GFY

Congratulations. Your parents should have raised you better.
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:42 PM   #99
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gideongallery, you are the most uncreative and useless person I've ever encountered. And you show the kind of person you are each and every time you post on GFY

Congratulations. Your parents should have raised you better.
actions speak louder then words

if you truly believed that statement you would have accepted my offer to show everyone here the solution to the piracy problem


you wouldn't have been able to use, but if my shit didn't work that would matter because you would use it anyway.
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Yes gideongallery actions DO speak louder than words.

I DO things and make money in this industry. You do nothing and talk in endless circles.

I just sit back and watch you show your true colors.

I don't even know why you bother posting here. There is not even one serious player in the business on GFY who has any respect for you or thinks you are "right".

Your endless twisting and turning of words while you try to spin things is a joke.

You've had some funny moments for sure though. Like when you have tried to tell actual lawyers on here about the "law".

Dude...you've made a complete ass of yourself on here over and over and over. Just leave.
Go to the pirate forums where you belong with the other freeloaders who do nothing.
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