I now fully support SOPA: hang the pirates by their balls

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  • Paul Markham
    Too old to care
    • Jun 2001
    • 52942
    #91
    Originally posted by Cherry7
    Egypt has had change because its pro western government was unpopular, the small educated elite now find that twitter will not help them with the Muslim Brotherhood.
    The same people who were in charge under Hosni Mubarak's rule are still in charge. The Army ran the country and still run it. Twitter is what a little bird does and it had the same effect in Egypt. the Eagles and Hawks still rule. Nice illusion that Twitter can change the world, but seriously, wait and see.


    Ten months after Egypt's revolution ended Hosni Mubarak's 30-year dictatorship, there is no sign of stable government arriving any time soon. After two days of pitch battles with the military in downtown Cairo, 10 protesters have been killed and over 300 injured.

    This will help you.

    Originally posted by DamianJ
    Oh, and it will break the internet.
    If it's that easy to break, best we break it and start again. Got your tin foil hat?

    Seriously Damian, it makes no difference what you post here. The law will get passed, then we will see if it breaks the Internet. If I can close you down or you can close me down or Fabian can shut all the rest of us down.

    If you're right, what are your future plans? Have you been getting your CV ready, searching the situation vacant ads or registered at the job centre? Not having a go and this is what all the fear mongers should be doing, because according to them, it's all over.

    Real world, none of you have thought about alternative employment. Because you don't really believe the fears you're spreading.

    Not just Damian, all the fear mongers who think it's the end of online porn or the strangling of it. What actions have you taken to to safeguard your future incomes?

    That calls for a poll.



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      • Zester
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2003
        • 5344
        #92
        is it over yet?
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          • gideongallery
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2003
            • 7082
            #93
            Originally posted by Nathan
            Seriously, all of you are driving me insane... sorry, I have to post, I can not stand this anymore...

            There is so much misunderstanding on this board about SOPA it is INSANE...

            SOPA misunderstanding 1: The market-driven system (103) does NOT PROVIDE FOR NOTICE TO HOSTS!!! It _ONLY_ allows notices sent to _AD NETWORKS_ and _BILLING PROVIDERS_.

            SOPA misunderstanding 2: SOPA does not apply to sites that offer one link to some copyrighted product!! It has to be DEDICATED TO THE FACT.

            SOPA misunderstanding 3: Market-Driven SOPA notices to ad networks or billing providers will most likely result in a counter-notice from the site, which will result in it going to COURT!!! If anyone here thinks that ad networks or billing providers will just voluntarily shut down sites they are insane... if they thought that would make sense they would friggin do it already now.

            SOPA misunderstanding 4: SOPAs _2nd_ paragraph -- Section 1 - SEC 2 - (a) (2) -- is there to LIMIT anything following in the law, and it clearly states that anywhere it talks about a breach of Title 17, ALL LIMITATIONS OF TITLE 17 APPLY.. Guess what guys, TITLE 17 SECTION 512 is _DMCA_.

            SOPA misunderstanding 5: SOPA was made for sites like pornbb.org or similar, in order to shutdown sites which CAN NOT BE TOUCHED from the US. It is so that although the SITE can not be taken down, it can be blacklisted all over in the US. The ISP provision in 102 is not to send a notice to the HOST OF THE SITE.. It's to send a notice to ALL ISPS IN THE US TO BLOCK THE DNS!

            Small hint also regarding our sites and 103 -- 1) We run our own Ad Network, a SOPA notice sent to that one will definitely result in a counter-notice and a lawsuit following; 2) We do not use any billing providers on our tube sites.

            In general, 103 will be used by copyright owners without really understanding it, and will likely harm a bunch of them when they have to go to court and pay penalties for false claims. Make _SURE_ you understand 103 (a) (1) perfectly... especially (B) (i) (I)... "primarily" and "only limited purpose or use other than" and "violation of Section 501 of title 17" in connection with 1 SEC 2 (a) (2) are quite detailed as in what they mean and apply to... BTW, (B) (ii) is there for sites like the pirate bay I guess...

            BTW, since a comment to that effect was made here, DMCA has nothing to do with not wanting to police a site, but instead that a site taking submissions by ANY THIRD PARTY, even a verified source, needs DMCA to protect itself against someone that posts content she does not own.
            the DMCA takedown notice is only supposed to be used to takedown content you own

            yet universal took down mega uploads song even though they knew it didn't contain a single second of their copyright material.

            The issue is not what will happen if the law if followed as intended it when grey areas are abused.

            Abusers of these laws should be punished just as much as companies who infringe.

            “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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              • Paul Markham
                Too old to care
                • Jun 2001
                • 52942
                #94
                All the anti SOPA guys who think it will change their businesses, need to get over here http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1050810 and vote.

                Then post on how they are planning to make money in the future, seeing as SOPA wil change so much for them. Well that's what they say will happen.

                In truth they're doing fuck all because they don't believe what they're saying.



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                  • NewNick
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 7229
                    #95
                    Originally posted by epitome
                    again, we have the people that pay to create content arguing for it...

                    And those that want to consume and share it for free arguing against it.

                    If the thieves didn't think content was an all you can eat free buffet we wouldn't be having this discussion.

                    If it passes, the only people to blame are those that created the problem.


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                      • NewNick
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 7229
                        #96
                        Originally posted by DamianJ
                        That's the hilarious part. I really think they honestly believe it will work.

                        What do you mean by "honestly believe it will work."

                        It does not have "to work" if you are insinuating that you should not legislate unless you can be 100% certain that the crime will be eradicated.

                        Laws are not passed in the belief that the crime will be eradicated, and it is a really pathetic internet hippy argument that says content should be free because "its the internet".

                        Jesus, you will be telling us that "property is theft" next.
                        Last edited by NewNick; 12-22-2011, 02:21 AM. Reason: typo
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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52942
                            #97
                            Originally posted by gideongallery
                            the DMCA takedown notice is only supposed to be used to takedown content you own

                            yet universal took down mega uploads song even though they knew it didn't contain a single second of their copyright material.

                            The issue is not what will happen if the law if followed as intended it when grey areas are abused.

                            Abusers of these laws should be punished just as much as companies who infringe.
                            Can you explain this better please.

                            Universal took down one song that wasn't theirs?

                            Took down many songs, some of which weren't theirs?

                            Took down many songs, none of which weren't theirs?

                            Took down the whole site?

                            Link to the news story, from a neutral and reliable source so not a post on Pirate Bay.

                            Can you quote me what the penalties are for bringing down a site wrongly today and the penalties for bringing down a site falsely under the new SOPA law please. Not a post somewhere, the actual law as it's written.

                            Otherwise people will think you're full of BS.

                            Also can you post here what your future plans are for employment. As you think SOPA s so bad. http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1050810



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                              • Cherry7
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 3564
                                #98
                                Originally posted by porno jew
                                good to see the so-called communists and libertarians show their true colors when it comes to sopa.

                                hypocritical scum who think the government can legislate people to buy their crappy content and archaic business models.
                                That is because you do not understand the way the world really is for the powerless.

                                Take the UK Coal miners, they were doing a terrible job, they did not control the industry.

                                They had radical beliefs of controlling the industry for the benefit of all.

                                When the government wanted to destroy the Coal Mining Industry they struck to defend it.

                                SOPA

                                There could be a radical solution where society /Internet take over the full funding and employment of the industries being destroyed by the free distribution of content. Like the BBC in the UK everyone pays a hundred or so dollars a year and for that you get TV channels, news, music and news free at the point of consumption.

                                but if the Internet is not going to pay up but just steal, then workers will defend their jobs, and will support their bosses in defending their industries.

                                Communists see a great possibility of free information and culture for all, but the workers who produce it have to be paid. That is why if the Goggles of this world don't like SOPA, the ball is in their court on how the creative industries should be funded.

                                Not such an idealistic wonderful technology if it is destroying your job and art.

                                Why have the Internet companies come up with a better plan?

                                Because they want to continue to make money on other people content and work?

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