I now fully support SOPA: hang the pirates by their balls

This to me is something that needs to be hammered and hammered hard.

I get these all day long, among other spam trying to get me to a site to get infected or something.

I get BoA, ACH, girls in russia and a ton of other shit emails, even with Spam Arrest.

The question is, why should I have to pay for spam arrest when these scum have free emails to fuck my computer with?

Culture, it should be free it's the Internet. The moment these guys have to pay 1 cent to send an email, they disappear. Normal non business people can send 100 for $1 a month. Or get it free with their Internet connection and pay for all over 100. Like SMS pay for them.

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Yes Damian, Sticky and the rest of the freedom online lovers, a self regulated Internet has turned out so marvelous. I have to scan my computer every morning, buy anti virus programs, spend money on Spam Arrest and still the scum manage to get through. If you think that's the way forward, you're either one of those profiting from the self regulation or delusional.

signupdamnit spot on with the last post. The shame is they turned a multi billion dollar industry into a shambles.

Paul, since I came back from holiday I decided not to enter into pointless arguments with you. Your name calling, bitterness and trolling is not something I need in my life. So carry on calling me names and trolling if you like, but I am afraid you will need to rely on Robbie etc to get your kicks. I'm done with you.

Happy Christmas.

I hope you are your family have a wonderful time.

would you still support if the penalty for making a bogus complaint was a voiding of all your copyrights ?

If SOPA passes, I guess Google, facebook, and all the rest of us will have to "Adapt or Die?"

people hate the government until they need them.

then they run to them like a parent.

That seems a little harsh. How about paying triple damages and a minimum fine instead? Anyway isn't a bogus complaint considered a type of perjury?

If you intentionally profit off of stealing from others then you belong in prison. It's that simple. I'm actually a reasonable guy and I still believe in user uploads but what we have going on today in this industry is unreasonable and bullshit. These illegal tube and forum owners know full well that most of their videos are illegal. They've made it their entire business model for several years. It's long past time for a change.

OK sorry for the name calling.

Do you have an answer to the rest of my post?

A) Do you have a viable alternative?

B) Do you think businesses that can't run within the law should be allowed to ignore it or the law should not be passed?

C) Do you think it's right that allowing these businesses to stay open should mean harm or closure to other businesses?

D) Do you like the shambles the the "Free self regulated Internet" has sunk to?

My Answers are.

A) No so I'm willing to see if SOPA will work better than self regulation works.

B) No, if you can't run a business within the law then close.

C) No, it's not right that others suffer so others who ignore or get around a law should prosper.

D) No I do not like the shambles that the Internet has become by being a "Free self regulated Internet". I think this has cost the Internet $billions in business and allowed many people to get online to rip off others.

Stop asking silly questions. Not name calling, just calling it like it is. The last person who will have any say in the matter of penalties is you. so you could say.

It's about as relevant as your idea. So stop flogging a silly idea, the dead horse is still available.

Bottom line,

for better or worse.. people need the freedom to look at whatever they want.

Sites like YouTube are an invaluable resource in the spreading of information that "others" might not want you to see or be aware of.

Once you open the doors to censorship, it will never stop.

It isn't that difficult to figure out. Let them in, and they will never go away.

Exactly... the government will fuck it up, the problem with SOPA is that is so loosely written it would allow 60 year old men to abuse it

sure but just like the DMCA

want to name one single case where someone filing a false takedown has ever been convicted of that

if the penalty is never enforced it the same as if it does not exist.

btw what is 3 times the damage of completely wiping out a company from the interent

how do you calculate what the life time potential income of a site is.

Agreed. Once you let the freeloaders in and keep letting them in they will never go away.

I worked in porn through the days of censorship and made a lot of money. Hugh Hefner made a fortune at a time when showing pubic hair was taboo or nearly.

During that time a censored newspaper brought down the most powerful man in the world, Nixon ring a bell, the UK Government and recently that censored media has exposed even more wrong doings by the people in charge.

Please and with respect, go take your fear mongering to frighten little children with, it has no effect on grown ups.

So suggest an alternative. One that hasn't been tried and has a hope of working. Because the present system is a shambles and costing me money. To keep out scum.

So far all the anti people don't have a single alternative to offer other than leave it as it is.

Because a law isn't enforced, means it needs to be changed. changing the penalty of an unforced law is a pointless argument. Come on give me something to make me think harder.

OK then. I wish you a Merry Xmas as well.

Anyone else want to come up with a debate?

No Paul, I am not interested in discussing anything with you again. Life is too short to respond to your trolling. I'm done with you. I'm filling my time more usefully.

I sincerely hope you have a wonderful Christmas and hope you find something more productive to do with your time than troll message boards next year.

Enjoy the break.

Sincerely

Damian

Just a sidenote porn isn't covered by SOPA... "By a vote of 9 to 18, the House Judiciary Committee rejected an amendment offered by Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.), which would have barred the Department of Justice from using the new tactics envisioned by an anti-piracy bill to protect "obscene and pornographic works."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1158466.html