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  • ilnjscb
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2009
    • 8972

    #91
    Originally posted by CIVMatt
    Seriously why would you even ask, you can get all that shit free, who the hell is going to do a $1 signup when the second link has more niche specific videos then you could ever watch in one year...

    I think it's kind of funny you'd even think you get anything off that, here's my top results for your first keyword:

    www.pornhub.com
    www.slutload.com
    www.spankwire.com
    www.thelatinateen.com
    xhamster.com

    and anyone is going to join a trial, lol... state of the industry folks, you have to find others way to make money, you can't just "promote" a program anymore using old techniques
    Exactly - better would be to put some focus on building rather than chasing ratios every other day.

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    • Sam - Mr. Skin
      Registered User
      • Feb 2010
      • 1688

      #92
      Originally posted by epitome
      700 Submits and not one sale?

      Even if it were the worst traffic in the world, some people wanted to join and 700 entered bogus credit card info or were declined without a single approval?

      I've seen lots of submits that didn't go through but you should have at least 7 to 10 sales based on the worst numbers I've seen... Until this very moment, I guess.
      The "submits" or "join hits" are most often what I'd call sucker clicks to the join page from tours. They aren't people clicking on a "join now" button, showing intent to purchase. They are clicking on a thumbnail image expecting to see it and being dumped on the join page. These are two very different things.

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      • PR_Glen
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2006
        • 9058

        #93
        Originally posted by stocktrader23
        For every paysite customer that rebills forever there are 10,000 that don't.
        if retention was ever that bad there would be no affiliate programs..
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        • PR_Glen
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2006
          • 9058

          #94
          Originally posted by Paul Markham
          This would be the best thing to test a sponsor, get a friend to do it using your link and not your computer. Then come back with the results. This would prove shaving.

          Why affiliates haven't formed a club to do this for each other is beyond me. Stops the rumors and myths. Proves once and for all if a sponsor is shaving and then the proof can be posted everywhere, on a name and shame list.
          its 2011 and you are trying to tell everyone about test sales? seriously?


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          • BIGTYMER
            Junior Achiever
            • Nov 2004
            • 17066

            #95
            I don't care if the 13k was sent over 10 years.. It's still 13k and 0 signups. And it was SE traffic!

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            • stocktrader23
              Let's do some business.
              • Jan 2003
              • 18781

              #96
              Originally posted by PR_Glen
              if retention was ever that bad there would be no affiliate programs..
              What's the average rebill length these days? It's bound to be lower than it was 5 years ago and even that number was pretty low in the big scheme of things.


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              • Roald
                SecretFriends.com
                • May 2001
                • 27910

                #97
                Originally posted by sam_mrskincash
                The "submits" or "join hits" are most often what I'd call sucker clicks to the join page from tours. They aren't people clicking on a "join now" button, showing intent to purchase. They are clicking on a thumbnail image expecting to see it and being dumped on the join page. These are two very different things.
                As far as I know Submits and Join Hits are 2 different things.

                Submits is where people fill in the Pre-Join page. Email addy, name, pw.

                Join hits is what you are talking about.

                Right?


                Originally posted by stocktrader23
                What's the average rebill length these days? It's bound to be lower than it was 5 years ago and even that number was pretty low in the big scheme of things.
                I would guess 2 months


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                • Sam - Mr. Skin
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 1688

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Roald
                  As far as I know Submits and Join Hits are 2 different things.

                  Submits is where people fill in the Pre-Join page. Email addy, name, pw.

                  Join hits is what you are talking about.

                  Right?
                  You are correct. I'm tripping. I thought he was speaking of just join hits which is a garbage stat in my opinion unless you weed out the sucker clicks. I am still leery of what exactly constitutes a submit in NATS also though. In some cases I believe just activating one field of a join process will track as a submit.

                  Even so, I would agree that 0:700 ratio seems pretty damn bad if what he's saying about his traffic sources is true.

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                  • BlackCrayon
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 19634

                    #99
                    are your results surrounded by tube links? seems most search results now are all links to tube videos and a few others inbetween.
                    you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                    • ParlourCash Karl
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2006
                      • 438

                      #100
                      LOL it's like when you promote a cam site for years with a weekly regular payout of round $150.00 to $200.00 and more........then they change the name and it all suddenly stops overnight, and when you say something they tell you the affiliate link has been moved over and is working but you have clients who are from your main membership site saying they still do privates from the same link and we get nothing anymore......makes you wonder..........bottom line don't trust anyone anymore.....and if you have a pay site....rely on your own traffic.......no one else is going to make you rich except yourself......
                      www.ParlourCash.com

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                      • The Porn Nerd
                        Living The Dream
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 19784

                        #101
                        Affiliates who send traffic to the following website MAKE MONEY. Don't believe me?
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                        • datingleads
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 87

                          #102
                          you mentioned dating sites not converting to paid

                          have you tried any of the dating programs paying $5-$6 per free sign up?

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                          • dynastoned
                            mmm yeah!
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 5061

                            #103
                            Originally posted by datingleads
                            you mentioned dating sites not converting to paid

                            have you tried any of the dating programs paying $5-$6 per free sign up?
                            yeah definitely started flippin links over to pay per frees.

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                            • miguel7
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 139

                              #104
                              Google is good! Mofoscash is bad! Easy.

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                              • Sophie Delancey
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                                • Jun 2011
                                • 1249

                                #105
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