so this is how search engine traffic converts in porn today

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  • dynastoned
    mmm yeah!
    • Feb 2005
    • 5061
    #76
    Originally posted by Paul Markham
    There's your answer. They can adjust your conversion rate this easily. Must be some magic join links they have on their join pages.

    Don't complain first here, email the support and tell them the problem and that they have a week to fix the problem before you name and shame. Then if nothing changes, move your traffic to sites who are still making you money.
    see thats the difference between me and you. i'm not here to save face i'm just shootin it straight.

    this thread kind of reminds me of xxxjay's site ************************ definitely prophetic to say the least.

    and ayo jay thanks for pullin my link off your blog. even after i threw up a few of yours on mine just to get one link on yours rofl.

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      • dynastoned
        mmm yeah!
        • Feb 2005
        • 5061
        #77
        Originally posted by Paul Markham
        This would be the best thing to test a sponsor, get a friend to do it using your link and not your computer. Then come back with the results. This would prove shaving.

        Why affiliates haven't formed a club to do this for each other is beyond me. Stops the rumors and myths. Proves once and for all if a sponsor is shaving and then the proof can be posted everywhere, on a name and shame list.
        it's been done before and nothing ever comes of it except 7 page drama then everyone forgets the following month. seriously you've been here since 2001 and still haven't figured that out yet?

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          • zurich
            So Fucking Banned
            • Nov 2011
            • 202
            #78
            Originally posted by dynastoned
            little man makin 5-10k/month without 100's of thousands of quality unique traffic to send to sponsors are no more it seems. it's cool i still make enough for beer money with the current situation so i'm not upset so much as i am disappointed that we as an industry let it get this way.

            for those of you little guys out there that went all in on this shit i feel for you.
            Did you contact pr0 for advice yet like I recommended?

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              • dynastoned
                mmm yeah!
                • Feb 2005
                • 5061
                #79
                Originally posted by zurich
                Did you contact pr0 for advice yet like I recommended?
                nah troll i haven't talked to the kid in a few months.

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                  • Paul Markham
                    Too old to care
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 52942
                    #80
                    Originally posted by dynastoned
                    it's been done before and nothing ever comes of it except 7 page drama then everyone forgets the following month. seriously you've been here since 2001 and still haven't figured that out yet?
                    Bad reflection on affiliates then. Either all fish wives moaning or a herd of cats who can't act as one. Maybe after 10 years I expect too much of them. Still making a few test joins will soon show if you're being shaved or this is the state of online porn.

                    It could be both.

                    The only reason to shave, because it self defeating, is a program can't afford the high payouts of 2000-2007 in 2011. Why is obvious, less joining and all the savings that could of been made have been, leaving the high cost of traffic as the only place left to save money. Can't cut payouts on the sites, as affiliates wouldn't join. But shaving is an option to save money, while making it look like you're paying out big.

                    Or so much has been given away free for so long, the culture of paying for porn is dwindling.

                    Still 2,000 hits on a join page and no conversions?

                    My crappiest sites of all crappy sites return a pretty good ration off join page hits. They don't bother going their, they know what a join page is.



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                      • bean-aid
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 16493
                        #81
                        Originally posted by neeko
                        Hey Dynastoned,

                        - The 13 000 uniques are sent over 2011 ; roughly 100 hits per day. Oftentimes such little concentrated traffic from a specific source at a given moment cannot be judged as a total.

                        Thanks!
                        Not following you. But either way, I'm curious as to his almost 1,000 join hits. Are these join form hits?

                        What was his form submissions? Do you show those stats, if not, why?

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                          • seolinker
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 243
                            #82
                            ^
                            good question above lol

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                              • seolinker
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 243
                                #83
                                join hits there seems just registration form hit... and 700 = actually leads who registered on that form.... but still.... 13000 over year or hour means shit assuming none of 700 members of the site didn't buy any shit. I would scream on OP place after 70 members didn't buy, not waiting for 700. I am not big fan of adult, just using it not for promoting paysites, but these sponsor or like you call it total scumbag it seems.

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                                  • Jakez
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2004
                                    • 5656
                                    #84
                                    Originally posted by dynastoned
                                    shits weak son. i mean do you guys really still slang shit that converts at piss poor ratios like 1:20k or what?
                                    Fuck no. I'm converting popups of a main paysite tour at 1:7000, not even anything slick about it, and still looking for something better.

                                    Try other sponsors.
                                    Last edited by Jakez; 12-20-2011, 10:11 AM.
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                                      • Far-L
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2002
                                        • 6065
                                        #85
                                        Homegrown, conversions to converts that retain

                                        Sorry to jump in here like a itchy scratchy spamacite but honestly, Homegrown is doing just fine and converting on even the worst tubes better than this -- on qualified search traffic, branded and unbranded terms we do wayyyyyyyyyyy better. We haven't done a latina site yet unfortunately but we do have some other niches that are doing better than I expect anyone to believe.

                                        Maybe it is because we are unsaturated. Maybe we just have a good product. Maybe we just have way more than anyone can see anywhere for free. I don't know.

                                        We would certainly be grateful for the biz if you want to see what we can do.
                                        HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982.
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                                          • CIVMatt
                                            Amateur Pimpin
                                            • Aug 2004
                                            • 13075
                                            #86
                                            Seriously why would you even ask, you can get all that shit free, who the hell is going to do a $1 signup when the second link has more niche specific videos then you could ever watch in one year...

                                            I think it's kind of funny you'd even think you get anything off that, here's my top results for your first keyword:

                                            www.pornhub.com
                                            www.slutload.com
                                            www.spankwire.com
                                            www.thelatinateen.com
                                            xhamster.com

                                            and anyone is going to join a trial, lol... state of the industry folks, you have to find others way to make money, you can't just "promote" a program anymore using old techniques
                                            Make easy money with Webcams

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                                              • signupdamnit
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2007
                                                • 6697
                                                #87
                                                I think someone else mentioned those 700 submits were where they just entered their email, not CC information. But my question in response to that is how do you know they aren't emailing all 700 of those people 3 days after the attempt and telling them to come to Porn Hub for free porn? You don't unless you are checking them.

                                                Regardless of what they are doing you gave them 700 email addresses for free. This is one of the problems with the model. You should be getting something for this whether a quarter, fifty cents, or a dollar.. Some sponsors are even using these emails to automatically sign people up for dating programs. It's no wonder affiliates are hurting while many of these programs get richer and richer with each passing month.

                                                You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                  • dynastoned
                                                    mmm yeah!
                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                    • 5061
                                                    #88
                                                    Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                    I think someone else mentioned those 700 submits were where they just entered their email, not CC information. But my question in response to that is how do you know they aren't emailing all 700 of those people 3 days after the attempt and telling them to come to Porn Hub for free porn? You don't unless you are checking them.

                                                    Regardless of what they are doing you gave them 700 email addresses for free. This is one of the problems with the model. You should be getting something for this whether a quarter, fifty cents, or a dollar.. Some sponsors are even using these emails to automatically sign people up for dating programs. It's no wonder affiliates are hurting while many of these programs get richer and richer with each passing month.
                                                    it just says select a username and password so they aren't collecting emails through that page.

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                                                      • dynastoned
                                                        mmm yeah!
                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                        • 5061
                                                        #89
                                                        who knows when i get some time i'll look around and throw up a few more sponsors. i already have i think 5-6 different latina sponsors on that site.

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                                                          • signupdamnit
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Aug 2007
                                                            • 6697
                                                            #90
                                                            Originally posted by dynastoned
                                                            it just says select a username and password so they aren't collecting emails through that page.
                                                            Looks like you're right about that. But it is something to look out for. The join form sure loaded slow for me when I tried it but I don't know if that is a fluke.

                                                            Yeah I've only had experience with Manwin programs unwittingly (when they buy the program and keep it quiet that they own it so I don't know any better than to keep sending traffic) but I've never seen good conversions and I've seen many complaining on webmaster forums. If you are going to keep them up at least keep them honest by comparing with others in that niche.

                                                            You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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