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  • AOLGuy
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    • Oct 2002
    • 1261

    #1

    Legal Advice - Overzealous Cop?

    My younger brother has decided to take after me and start a website. He put up some fliers looking for models around where he lives in Northern California.

    Today he gets a call from a female police detective asking all sorts of questions--is this a business? Where does he shoot? What is his name, address, drivers license #? Is he a sex offender?

    Now I don't think he did anything illegal per what kind of fliers they were. But I know that in some cities posting ANY fliers is illegal.

    However, he also didn't answer the questions to where the cop felt satisfied. She said he should meet with her to discuss matters.

    Am I crazy, or is this police officer mixing her personal politics with her job?

    Maybe they have never dealt with this up there, but in So. Cal, the one run-in I had with the cops ended the second I showed them my release form. Perhaps she does not even know that what he is doing is legal?

    Best I can figure, she is trying to pressure him into not seeking out talent in that area and is hoping to discourage him.

    My advice to him was not to put up any more fliers and not to return her phone calls. I told him to wait until he gets a ticket for the fliers, or if they come to arrest him (for what though, I am not sure).

    I told him that if they want to have him come in to talk, to tell them he will want legal counsel present and retain a lawyer immediately.

    I also told him to specify a million times over to any other girls that call that they need to be 18 or over, and to keep pristine records of their proof of age--taking that information at the very beginning of a meeting, just to protect himself.
  • Amputate Your Head
    There can be only one
    • Aug 2001
    • 39075

    #2
    You find it odd that the police would check out the person putting up flyers asking for chicks to get naked? I don't. In fact, they'd better.
    Last edited by Amputate Your Head; 02-05-2003, 12:34 AM.
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    • Theo
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      • May 2001
      • 34515

      #3
      fliers looking for models in street.......what's next

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      • Libertine
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        • May 2002
        • 17860

        #4
        I believe he just found himself his first model.
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        • AOLGuy
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2002
          • 1261

          #5
          let me state that he is not the sharpest tool in the shed - hence, he is not working for me...

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          • KRL
            Entrepreneur
            • Oct 2002
            • 31429

            #6
            He's crazy to be doing that. He's going to get religious freaks seeing those and filing complaints. 10 to 1 he gets pinched eventually if not now on some trumped up charge they'll throw at him just to fuck with him.
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            • AOLGuy
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              • Oct 2002
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              #7
              and just to clarify, my original post is for any advice I did not give him on how to protect himself against any future harassment or problems...

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              • Amputate Your Head
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                • Aug 2001
                • 39075

                #8
                well, I think definately don't be putting up any more flyers for it... lol
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                • drunkdollars
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                  • Apr 2002
                  • 2734

                  #9
                  I see crazy flyers in Hollywood : gay, bi, Tranny want to make money in porn call ..

                  I am guessing its not legal but it happens, I imagine its the area you put them up in that determines if the PO call
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                  • EscortBiz
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                    • May 2002
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                    #10
                    I hope he gets smarter because what he did was real stupid

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                    • EscortBiz
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                      #11
                      also cops dont call when they want to arrest you, they just show up

                      Like this guy told me the other day he got a call from the FBI, I told him the FBI does not make phone calls, they make visits

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                      • ThunderBalls
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                        • Oct 2002
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                        #12
                        Tell him to tell the cop to go fuck herself. Cops only talk to you for one reason: they want to bust you but they don't have enough evidence and they are trying to get you to incriminate yourself.

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                        • Amputate Your Head
                          There can be only one
                          • Aug 2001
                          • 39075

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ThunderBalls
                          Tell him to tell the cop to go fuck herself. Cops only talk to you for one reason: they want to bust you but they don't have enough evidence and they are trying to get you to incriminate yourself.
                          if you got nothing to hide, there shouldn't be anything to worry about.
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                          • Mr.Fiction
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                            • Feb 2002
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                            if you got nothing to hide, there shouldn't be anything to worry about.
                            Funny.
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                            • Amputate Your Head
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                              • Aug 2001
                              • 39075

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


                              Funny.
                              funny cuz it's true. I got nothing to hide and I never have any problems.
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                              • ThunderBalls
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                                • Oct 2002
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                if you got nothing to hide, there shouldn't be anything to worry about.
                                Plenty of innocent people in jail because they thought the same thing and talked to cops without an attorney.

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                                • Amputate Your Head
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                                  • Aug 2001
                                  • 39075

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ThunderBalls


                                  Plenty of innocent people in jail because they thought the same thing and talked to cops without an attorney.
                                  yep.... you ask anyone in jail and they'll all tell you they're innocent.
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                                  • applejacks
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                                    • Mar 2002
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                                    #18
                                    Tell that bitch to fuck OFF!!!
                                    I dont see anything Illegal about it..
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                                    • Ross
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                                      • Sep 2002
                                      • 18874

                                      #19
                                      I don't think it would be illegal........

                                      Over here it is, you can't promote this business on the streets!
                                      But from what I heard its all ok in America!

                                      Tell him not to put anymore fliers and just be careful about who he is choosing

                                      maybe start with some female friends who are willing to do it then work his way up?

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                                      • applejacks
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                                        • Mar 2002
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                                        #20
                                        The best thing, go to a local stip club and talk to the girls..

                                        They will do anything for money..
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                                        • ChrisH
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                                          • Aug 2001
                                          • 1355

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                          yep.... you ask anyone in jail and they'll all tell you they're innocent.
                                          Yes I think it's like 95% of them too... lol

                                          WHen you say he put up some fliers. Do you mean he went car to car putting them under windshield wipers? If so there ARE laws against things like that. Granted if it was Bobs Deli no one would care, but that doesn't make it legal.
                                          Last edited by ChrisH; 02-05-2003, 04:27 AM.
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                                          • Hustlin Entertainment
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                                            • May 2002
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                                            #22
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                                            • BVF
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                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 13975

                                              #23
                                              I put up "erotic photography" business cards in the neighborhood chinese carryouts....cops visit them all the time. I've never received a call....

                                              And if a cop did call asking me questions about my "business", I'd just let him/her know that what I did was for a hobby.

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                                              • AOLGuy
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                                                • Oct 2002
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                                                #24
                                                He put up fliers on bulletin boards near the local colleges, and at the local music venue where a lot of 18-30 year olds hang out...

                                                His flier was really mellow and slick looking... kinda rave-ish.

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                                                • AOLGuy
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 1261

                                                  #25
                                                  RE: talking to the cops without an attorney

                                                  Don't you watch Law & Order?


                                                  NEVER do that shit.

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                                                  • vegasdude
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                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                    • 3649

                                                    #26
                                                    thanks i just spilled redbull out over my keyboard!
                                                    Did you fucking talk to me??!
                                                    Who the fuck told you to talk to me??!"

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                                                    • cyberpunk
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                                                      • Feb 2001
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                                      if you got nothing to hide, there shouldn't be anything to worry about.


                                                      ITs areguemnts like that that have americans giving up ALOT of freedoms tot he gov't these days,
                                                      would you turn over all your biz documents and such to the poilice jsut casue they asked for them?

                                                      What this guy did was dumb, and I'm sure will haunt him inthe long run, but the cop needs to go fuckherself.
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                                                      • AOLGuy
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                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 1261

                                                        #28
                                                        The only thing that puzzles me still is what is illegal about it.

                                                        I know it was not intelligent, and it draws attention...

                                                        But how did he break the law?

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                                                        • NastyJack
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                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                          • 1291

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ThunderBalls
                                                          Plenty of innocent people in jail because they thought the same thing and talked to cops without an attorney.
                                                          Just what I was thinking!

                                                          The first thing I tell a cop is "I want my lawyer present".
                                                          Usually they back off at that point!

                                                          As it turns out I've got the same lawyer that represents them in court so as soon as I mention his name they know that he's not going to be backing them up this time.

                                                          It's called, taking the bull by the horns.

                                                          Regards
                                                          NastyJack

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                                                          • NastyJack
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                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                            • 1291

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by AKFK
                                                            The only thing that puzzles me still is what is illegal about it.
                                                            I'm not a lawyer and I can't say if it's illegal because I don't know where you're at but it sounds to me as if they just want to check him out.

                                                            Better to be safe then sorry and shit like that...

                                                            If his worried about it have him call a lawyer.
                                                            That should solve his problem.

                                                            edit: Oh yea, the next time his looking for girls tell him to find them at the local streap joint.

                                                            Regards
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                                                            Last edited by NastyJack; 02-05-2003, 07:49 AM.

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                                                            • AOLGuy
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                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 1261

                                                              #31
                                                              He is trying to go amateur and got really jaded within a week of talking to girls online who flaked on him. He has been going through AOL and trying to copy how I started out...

                                                              He is too green for me to recommend him to use AdultStaffing or even OneModelPlace.

                                                              I know enough girls who are in the biz or are thinking of getting into it, and he does not have the tact to do the handholding thing yet.

                                                              That, and he for the route he wants to go, he can't use girls who are on other sites really...

                                                              I suggested he hire a few female friends to recruit for him--one works at a store at his local mall, and can probably find him some decent prospects.

                                                              I think he did the flier blitz because he was frustrated in waiting...

                                                              I remember my first month seeming endless, and it was only the beginning of a long, tense journey.... Still, beats any other job I've had.

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                                                              • AOLGuy
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                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                • 1261

                                                                #32
                                                                Follow-up:

                                                                The female police detective ran a check on him and called him back today...

                                                                ...TO APOLOGIZE.

                                                                She also gave him advice on finding girls...

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                                                                • EscortBiz
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by AKFK
                                                                  Follow-up:

                                                                  The female police detective ran a check on him and called him back today...

                                                                  ...TO APOLOGIZE.

                                                                  She also gave him advice on finding girls...
                                                                  now this makes the story sound a bit unreal

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