Romney Caught Off Guard by Gay Nam Vet

[ShellyCrash]

I think this clip is great on so many different levels. I think it really speaks to how you can't judge a book by its cover as why its so important that we provide equal rights to all americans. If the words "gay marriage" put your panties in a bunch call it civil union, hell, call every marriage a civil union on paper if it makes you feel better. This guy takes Romney to task and he's completely blindsided.

[Rochard]

I still find it hard to believe that we are even discussing this topic at this point. We should have moved past this issue twenty or thirty years ago. A gay man is no different than a straight man, and deserves the same rights.

[ShellyCrash]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I still find it hard to believe that we are even discussing this topic at this point. We should have moved past this issue twenty or thirty years ago. A gay man is no different than a straight man, and deserves the same rights.

I agree. I can't believe there are people still pissed off at the repeal of "don't ask don't tell". In Florida it will probably be a long time before gay marriage is legal and recognised, but there are some bright spots like some law enforcement agencies give domestic partners death benefits and somehow allstate has managed to be able to offer domestic partnership coverage in their health insurance plan. I guess if you're a company the size of Allstate you can do that, but it gives me hope.

[CyberHustler]

lol, homeboy got mad... don't worry if he wins though 'cause Mitt changes his mind like he changes his socks.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I still find it hard to believe that we are even discussing this topic at this point. We should have moved past this issue twenty or thirty years ago. A gay man is no different than a straight man, and deserves the same rights.

the problem is women are still treated as inferior. Marriage gives "benefits" geared towards women being inferior. Take away those benefits and i think most people would be open to same sex marriage because then all marriage is, is what it is supposed to be.

You have to remember where funding comes from for these guys and that funding isn't happy giving up more $$$. same sex marriage means big companies pay more money out.. = less profit. You will never convince these guys that losing money is a good thing , so the solution is , make it so they don't lose money

[ShellyCrash]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

the problem is women are still treated as inferior. Marriage gives "benefits" geared towards women being inferior. Take away those benefits and i think most people would be open to same sex marriage because then all marriage is, is what it is supposed to be.

I don't know if it is so much that way anymore. In a marriage a spouse is elligible for benefits, wife from the husband or husband from the wife. In divorces you see men these days seeking and getting allimony, child support payments, etc.

[raymor]

In regards "don't ask, don't tell", I believe it's none of their business if you are gay or straight. So I'm okay with the "don't ask" part. Noone should make an issue of the fact that someone else is gay. (With possibly very few exceptions in the private sector. If my wife is gay that's an issue.)


I also believe that the military's mission of defending us - all of us - from attack is vitally important. People volunteer for military service knowing that order and discipline in the military is important enough that by joining they subject themselves to stricter rules than civilians have. For example, military members can't stage an anti-war protest on base. You do that elsewhere, such as in Washington, not on a battlefield. Similarly, you have the right to hold a gay pride parade. It is not in our interest to have members of our military staging a gay pride parade in Afghanistan, though. Just as noone else should make your sexual orientation an issue, neither should you risk national defense by making an issue of your own homosexuality. You're a soldier. It's none of our business who you sleep with. Just you do your job. I don't see why any service member needs to make it our business by creating an issue of it. That's my understanding of the "don't tell" part.

Maybe it should have been called "It's none of our business, just do your job and let other people do theirs."

[Holly Lez!]

YAY that made my day! Thanks for sharing.. I really don't know why gays can't marry after all the debacle/sham marriages we have seen like Kim Kardashian, Britney Spears and etc.. come on Romney I am embarrassed you are from Massachusetts!

[Sophie Delancey]

Seeing his interior monologue as he realizes what's going on is fucking hilarious. Oh, Mittens. You are a silly bitch.

[VikingMan]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I still find it hard to believe that we are even discussing this topic at this point. We should have moved past this issue twenty or thirty years ago. A gay man is no different than a straight man, and deserves the same rights.

It makes for a wonderful topic to fight over and be distracted by while our country is destroyed.

[ShellyCrash]

Originally Posted by Holly Lez!

YAY that made my day! Thanks for sharing.. I really don't know why gays can't marry after all the debacle/sham marriages we have seen like Kim Kardashian, Britney Spears and etc.. come on Romney I am embarrassed you are from Massachusetts!

YAY! I'm glad

Originally Posted by raymor

In regards "don't ask, don't tell", I believe it's none of their business if you are gay or straight. So I'm okay with the "don't ask" part. Noone should make an issue of the fact that someone else is gay. (With possibly very few exceptions in the private sector. If my wife is gay that's an issue.)


I also believe that the military's mission of defending us - all of us - from attack is vitally important. People volunteer for military service knowing that order and discipline in the military is important enough that by joining they subject themselves to stricter rules than civilians have. For example, military members can't stage an anti-war protest on base. You do that elsewhere, such as in Washington, not on a battlefield. Similarly, you have the right to hold a gay pride parade. It is not in our interest to have members of our military staging a gay pride parade in Afghanistan, though. Just as noone else should make your sexual orientation an issue, neither should you risk national defense by making an issue of your own homosexuality. You're a soldier. It's none of our business who you sleep with. Just you do your job. I don't see why any service member needs to make it our business by creating an issue of it. That's my understanding of the "don't tell" part.

Maybe it should have been called "It's none of our business, just do your job and let other people do theirs."

I agree whole heartedly with "don't ask", but don't tell... someone shouldn't have to worry about losing their position in any organization- even the military- because of their sexual preference.

I have several friends in the military (army, navy, air force and national guard), before the repeal they all served alongside men and women they knew were gay and I was really surprised and happy to know that the general consensus was it wasn't a big deal. They all looked at eachother as equal and playing for the same team.

I don't think anyone is planning gay pride parades in afghanistan, it's more a repeal on fear and repression. If someone is openly gay and still is willing to put their life on the line to defend our country it shouldn't matter if that person is gay or not and they shouldn't be barred from telling people they're gay. Your sexual preference is part of your identity, its unfair to force people to hide or lie about apart of themselves.

[directfiesta]

Mitt sure did bite on that right away ... till ....

That veteran is smart and right : his spouse should have the same rights non-withstanding the sex , religion, race, etc ...

But in a theocracy, these things ( such as abortion .. ) are top on the list

[Bladewire]

Thanks for posting this what a great clip!

Interesting the vet and Romney say they are the same age. Romney has obviously had some work done.

[_Richard_]

it's a shame

[garce]

That boy's about as bright as a cloud...

[mafia_man]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I still find it hard to believe that we are even discussing this topic at this point. We should have moved past this issue twenty or thirty years ago. A gay man is no different than a straight man, and deserves the same rights.

You see the Republicans represent the minority of America. They represent corporations and rich people. Corporations can't vote and there's not enough rich people.

So the question is "How do you recruit enough people to get elected when you only represent such a small percentage of the population?"

And the answer to that question is, you create social policies that please more of the voting population to vote against their interests.

Gay marriage, abortion, gays in the military etc. The initial Republican group I described has absolutely no interest in these issues. But they would motivate people to vote for Republicans despite cuts in social services, less regulation and a higher tax burden.

It's only a single part mind. People do vote on more concrete proposals such as economic plans, foreign policy and domestic policy. But then the Republicans are forced to distort reality in order to get votes.

[Dubya]

that guy is a fagggggg