I love it! Would be great for the freeloaders to see that instead of content I pay to create and sell! :thumbsup

who do you work for in this industry?

It is interesting that some of the examples given of how terrible and unreasonable it would be such as radio playing, children singing, and fonts or art work...

Well just imagine that you are making a program for broadcast TV.

Can you have a radio with music playing in the background, Yes if you clear the rights and have the paperwork, and the same with children singing a none song.

Every program has legal paper work and a contract to so that all the IP work has been cleared and paid for. Every program you have ever seen. A lot of lawyers work in the media. If you don't clear the copyright the program does not get shown.

Our website has the rights to every photograph, every video and all the music. We paid for everything we have. We would have no problem whatsoever in giving our hosting company documentation showing ownership of all the creative works, model rights, music composers and musicians.

If we can do it so can our competitors.

says the guy who called himself creative for copying wayne's world in porn

what happens when someone decides to make a bogus sopa complaint based on the script you "stole"

how are you going to prove that you didn't rip off the copyrighted script of someone else to make your porn video.

your stories follow some common patterns.

if as you claimed string words together in a song are worth of a protection so strong your not even allowed to say them without permission from the original author

what makes you think you should have a right to rip off someone script.

Right now they are tallying votes on an amendment that would direct the Attorney Generals office not to enforce SOPA provisions to protect the copyright of pornographers... jeezus, right when I tune in. This is the whole SOPA ballgame for GFY.

http://mfile.akamai.com/65764/live/r...p=39655&prop=n

18 - 9 not in favor. Wow.

I'm not too concerned about SOPA's intentions. It sounds as good as the Patriot Act did. SOPA will, however, turn into another PA in that it will be bent far beyond its intended use.

I have this complete idiot on ignore. But I had to see what he said in this thread.

So let me address you directly gideongallery...I NEVER "copied" Wayne's World. That is YOU making shit up.
In a post over a year ago I did say that I could see having Claudia Marie wear a bra that had "ClaudiaMarie.Com" on it and also have the website url written on different things in the scene so that when THIEVES put it on their pirate sites and remove the watermark I could still get the website url out there.
And yes...Waynes World did do a one minute skit in the movie where they made fun of blatant advertising by holding up different products.

Not even close in concept. AND...I never actually did that idea. It was just something I said in a post on GFY.

So once again gideongallery you are WRONG. Just like every post you make. :1orglaugh

Go on vacation without internet for 5 days, lose your entire website thanks to a false SOPA claim. Over the years I have seen some idiotic views on GFY but those supporting this bill take the fucking cake. You can not get any more ignorant, there is nothing you can say to make this bill look sensible and it reeks of bitter ass pornographers that hope this is the silver bullet to bring back their dwindling income.

Fuck everything about this, insane motherfuckers the lot of you. :1orglaugh

What I don't understand is, why does this bill need to be such an over-reaching measure? So if someone lip-synchs to a Rhianna song in YouTube video, they can be fined? How is that infringing on copyright if no money is being made from that harmless video on YouTube?

Can't they just try to recognize obvious theft and wholesale distribution of copied material, and stop that -- or would that be too much work? They have to carpet bomb the entire internet?

there needs to be some balance.

The problem is that there is nothing you can do to stop piracy short of breaking the internet. Instead of working around that fact many here will be happy to blow the whole thing up versus figuring out how to adjust their business models.

I honestly don't care either way. I'm not going to cry if they pass this giant pile of shit and by the time all of the lawsuits stop flying and it's actually enforced I won't remember which idiots said what on GFY. There is no excuse to be this ignorant and uninformed on a topic that should be important to you. If you work online you should know what the fuck you are talking about instead of blindly supporting a bill because "grrrrr pirates!"

You need to read the law. Filing a false claim is also an offense.

Nice try at fear mongering.

What a bunch of bumbling idiots. Listening to these hearings for the last couple of hours and my brain is toast.

http://a0.opencongress.org.s3.amazon...s_of_tubes.jpg

I have no interest in talking to you. You've proven that this shit is way over your head. Few hundred bucks and I could have a legitimate looking list of people filing SOPA claims against you and any other websites in bulk all with their own IP addresses. I could even make sure that they came in in increments and for different content so that it looked legitimate. I could send those to your host, domain registrar or even ISP. If I wanted, I could even hack up some fake documents to make it look like I was the original copyright holder. It would be your responsibility to fight each one and not everyone that deals with your ignorant ass would be willing to risk lawsuits on claims they have no way of knowing about.

I'm done talking to you about this. You've proven time and time again that you either have no interest in understanding what's going on or the inability to process it.

Have a good day.

As a student of history, I know power always corrupts. An overly broad law that gives a lot of power to the accuser and throws the presumption of innocence completely out of the windows is, imo, a recipe for disaster.

As an internet user, I worry about the impact this bill will have on a lot of products I use; ssh (could be used to hide the fact you're transferring pirated content), truecrypt (could be used to hide pirated content), icq (could be used to transfer pirated content), wget/curl (could be used to pirate content),...

As someone who does business online, I take note when Google, the Mozilla dev team, Kaspersky Labs, Zynga, Facebook, wikipedia, Twitter, human rights activists, civil liberties groups, people who built the internet like Paul Vixie (BIND) , Jim Gettys (HTTP 1.1) and Mark Andreessen (Netscape), the Electronic Frontier Foundation, AOL, eBay, PayPal, the European Parliament, LinkedIn,... all take the time and make the effort to speak out AGAINST SOPA.

Could go on, but it's late and i need some sleep. I'll be back tomorrow :)

Now you sound angry.LOL Just hoping we can protect our content. Somebody's income would dwindle but not content owners. The person that reports you falsely is held liable. You can sue for damages. You do create content and want it protected right?

Yes, I'm just not retarded. :thumbsup

Not a content developer or owner sounds like? PayPal is against it? Damn. Oh yeah. They sell memberships to filesonic. They would be hurt for sure if theft was punished. Yikes. Reported a pirate site to them with lots of my content removed dozens of times. Guess what PayPal did to punish them? Not a damn thing ! Users of Internet like yourself will hate this law for sure. I understand your position, but your stuff isn't stolen so the status quo is awesome. Not for me.

Not sure the retarded can really self diagnose. You aren't. You just love the current environment. It's awesome if you don't have skin in the game. Or make money on user uploaded content. Really cheap to produce.

You would almost certainly make exactly the same or even less money under this bill. I hope it passes just so you ignorant fucks can disappear once and for all.

I make plenty. I just have a problem with thieves. Our opinion and perspective is different. Doesn't make me mad at you. No way are they gonna stop giant content thieves by passing this law. Just a shot across the bow. If they pass it I am nit gonna disappear and neither are you

It would seem that Mister Tube Traffic here has run out of cognitive arguments and is now resorting to playground insults.

Oddly enough I expected a rather higher level of discourse from you. My bad.

Carry on troll.


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I have not read the entire thread, however anyone supporting this Act is crazy.

No single gov should ever be able to control the entire internet :2 cents:

Does it ever stop with the US? They want to control everything.

You realize tube traffic means traffic TO tubes, right?

No, no you didn't. :1orglaugh

Support this fucktarded bill, I really don't care. It's pathetic though, believe that.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...-details.shtml

Breaking News: Feds Falsely Censor Popular Blog For Over A Year, Deny All Due Process, Hide All Details...

Do I produce adult content? No, I don't. Have I ever bought adult content, Yes of course.
Have I ever paid people to write articles, blogposts,...? Yes, plenty of times. Have I ever paid people to create custom artwork, videos, desigsn,...? Yes, of course. Is all of that relevant? No, not at all. The validity of ones statements about a certain subject does not depend on ones method of generating income. To think otherwise would be an ad hominem argument.

Even if you want to use ad hominem arguments, there's a lot more people and companies on that list that never directly or indirectly profited from piracy.

This morning, the following was sent to the NANOG mailing list (The North American Network Operators' Group, http://www.nanog.org):

An Open Letter From Internet Engineers to the U.S. Congress

We, the undersigned, have played various parts in building a network called the Internet. We wrote and debugged the software; we defined the standards and protocols that talk over that network. Many of us invented parts of it. We're just a little proud of the social and economic benefits that our project, the Internet, has brought with it.

Last year, many of us wrote to you and your colleagues to warn about the proposed "COICA" copyright and censorship legislation. Today, we are writing again to reiterate our concerns about the SOPA and PIPA derivatives of last year's bill, that are under consideration in the House and Senate. In many respects, these proposals are worse than the one we were alarmed to read last year.

If enacted, either of these bills will create an environment of tremendous fear and uncertainty for technological innovation, and seriously harm the credibility of the United States in its role as a steward of key Internet infrastructure. Regardless of recent amendments to SOPA, both bills will risk fragmenting the Internet's global domain name system (DNS) and have other capricious technical consequences. In exchange for this, such legislation would engender censorship that will simultaneously be circumvented by deliberate infringers while hampering innocent parties' right and ability to communicate and express themselves online.

All censorship schemes impact speech beyond the category they were intended to restrict, but these bills are particularly egregious in that regard because they cause entire domains to vanish from the Web, not just infringing pages or files. Worse, an incredible range of useful, law-abiding sites can be blacklisted under these proposals. In fact, it seems that this has already begun to happen under the nascent DHS/ICE seizures program.

Censorship of Internet infrastructure will inevitably cause network errors and security problems. This is true in China, Iran and other countries that censor the network today; it will be just as true of American censorship. It is also true regardless of whether censorship is implemented via the DNS, proxies, firewalls, or any other method. Types of network errors and insecurity that we wrestle with today will become more widespread, and will affect sites other than those blacklisted by the American government.

The current bills -- SOPA explicitly and PIPA implicitly -- also threaten engineers who build Internet systems or offer services that are not readily and automatically compliant with censorship actions by the U.S. government. When we designed the Internet the first time, our priorities were reliability, robustness and minimizing central points of failure or control. We are alarmed that Congress is so close to mandating censorship-compliance as a design requirement for new Internet innovations. This can only damage the security of the network, and give authoritarian governments more power over what their citizens can read and publish.

The US government has regularly claimed that it supports a free and open Internet, both domestically and abroad. We cannot have a free and open Internet unless its naming and routing systems sit above the political concerns and objectives of any one government or industry. To date, the leading role the US has played in this infrastructure has been fairly uncontroversial because America is seen as a trustworthy arbiter and a neutral bastion of free expression. If the US begins to use its central position in the network for censorship that advances its political and economic agenda, the consequences will be far-reaching and destructive.

Senators, Congressmen, we believe the Internet is too important and too valuable to be endangered in this way, and implore you to put these bills aside.

</part1>

part2:

signed by:
* Vint Cerf, co-designer of TCP/IP, one of the "fathers of the Internet", signing as private citizen
* Paul Vixie, author of BIND, the most widely-used DNS server software, and President of the Internet Systems Consortium
* Tony Li, co-author of BGP (the protocol used to arrange Internet routing); chair of the IRTF's Routing Research Group; a Cisco Fellow; and architect for many of the systems that have actually been used to build the Internet
* Steven Bellovin, invented the DNS cache contamination attack; co-authored the first book on Internet security; recipient of the 2007 NIST/NSA National Computer Systems Security Award and member of the DHS Science and Technology Advisory Committee
* Jim Gettys, editor of the HTTP/1.1 protocol standards, which we use to do everything on the Web
* Dave Kristol, co-author, RFCs 2109, 2965 (Web cookies); contributor, RFC 2616 (HTTP/1.1)
* Steve Deering, Ph.D., invented the IP multicast feature of the Internet; lead designer of IPv6 (version 6 of the Internet Protocol)
* David Ulevitch, David Ulevitch, CEO of OpenDNS, which offers alternative DNS services for enhanced security.
* Elizabeth Feinler, director of the Network Information Center (NIC) at SRI International, administered the Internet Name Space from 1970 until 1989 and developed the naming conventions for the internet top level domains (TLDs) of .mil, .gov, .com, .org, etc. under contracts to DoD
* Robert W. Taylor, founded and funded the beginning of the ARPAnet; founded and managed the Xerox PARC Computer Science Lab which designed and built the first networked personal computer (Alto), the Ethernet, the first internet protocol and internet, and desktop publishing
* Fred Baker, former IETF chair, has written about 50 RFCs and contributed to about 150 more, regarding widely used Internet technology
* Dan Kaminsky, Chief Scientist, DKH
* Esther Dyson, EDventure; founding chairman, ICANN; former chairman, EFF; active investor in many start-ups that support commerce, news and advertising on the Internet; director, Sunlight Foundation
* Walt Daniels, IBM’s contributor to MIME, the mechanism used to add attachments to emails
* Nathaniel Borenstein, Chief Scientist, Mimecast; one of the two authors of the MIME protocol, and has worked on many other software systems and protocols, mostly related to e-mail and payments
* Simon Higgs, designed the role of the stealth DNS server that protects a.root-servers.net; worked on all versions of Draft Postel for creating new TLDs and addressed trademark issues with a complimentary Internet Draft; ran the shared-TLD mailing list back in 1995 which defined the domain name registry/registrar relationship; was a root server operator for the Open Root Server Consortium; founded coupons.com in 1994
* John Bartas, was the technical lead on the first commercial IP/TCP software for IBM PCs in 1985-1987 at The Wollongong Group. As part of that work, developed the first tunneling RFC, rfc-1088
* Nathan Eisenberg, Atlas Networks Senior System Administrator; manager of 25K sq. ft. of data centers which provide services to Starbucks, Oracle, and local state
* Dave Crocker, author of Internet standards including email, DKIM anti-abuse, electronic data interchange and facsimile, developer of CSNet and MCI national email services, former IETF Area Director for network management, DNS and standards, recipient of IEEE Internet Award for contributions to email, and serial entrepreneur
* Craig Partridge, architect of how email is routed through the Internet; designed the world's fastest router in the mid 1990s
* Doug Moeller, Chief Technology Officer at Autonet Mobile
* John Todd, Lead Designer/Maintainer - Freenum Project (DNS-based, free telephony/chat pointer system), http://freenum.org/
* Alia Atlas, designed software in a core router (Avici) and has various RFCs around resiliency, MPLS, and ICMP
* Kelly Kane, shared web hosting network operator
* Robert Rodgers, distinguished engineer, Juniper Networks, signing as a private citizen
* Anthony Lauck, helped design and standardize routing protocols and local area network protocols and served on the Internet Architecture Board
* Ramaswamy Aditya, built various networks and web/mail content and application hosting providers including AS10368 (DNAI) which is now part of AS6079 (RCN); did network engineering and peering for that provider; did network engineering for AS25 (UC Berkeley); currently does network engineering for AS177-179 and others (UMich)
* Blake Pfankuch, Connecting Point of Greeley, Network Engineer
* Jon Loeliger, has implemented OSPF, one of the main routing protocols used to determine IP packet delivery; at other companies, has helped design and build the actual computers used to implement core routers or storage delivery systems; at another company, installed network services (T-1 lines and ISP service) into Hotels and Airports across the country
* Jim Deleskie, internetMCI Sr. Network Engineer, Teleglobe Principal Network Architect
* David Barrett, Founder and CEO, Expensify
* Mikki Barry, VP Engineering of InterCon Systems Corp., creators of the first commercial applications software for the Macintosh platform and the first commercial Internet Service Provider in Japan
* Peter Rubenstein,helped to design and build the AOL backbone network, ATDN.
* David Farber, distinguished Professor CMU; Principal in development of CSNET, NSFNET, NREN, GIGABIT TESTBED, and the first operational distributed computer system; EFF board member
* Bradford Chatterjee, Network Engineer, helped design and operate the backbone network for a nationwide ISP serving about 450,000 users
* Gary E. Miller Network Engineer specializing in eCommerce
* Jon Callas, worked on a number of Internet security standards including OpenPGP, ZRTP, DKIM, Signed Syslog, SPKI, and others; also participated in other standards for applications and network routing
* John Kemp, Principal Software Architect, Nokia; helped build the distributed authorization protocol OAuth and its predecessors; former member of the W3C Technical Architecture Group
* Christian Huitema, worked on building the Internet in France and Europe in the 80’s, and authored many Internet standards related to IPv6, RTP, and SIP; a former member of the Internet Architecture Board
* Steve Goldstein, Program Officer for International Networking Coordination at the National Science Foundation 1989-2003, initiated several projects that spread Internet and advanced Internet capabilities globally
* David Newman, 20 years' experience in performance testing of Internet
infrastructure; author of three RFCs on measurement techniques (two on firewall performance, one on test traffic contents)
* Justin Krejci, helped build and run the two biggest and most successful municipal wifi networks located in Minneapolis, MN and Riverside, CA; building and running a new FTTH network in Minneapolis
* Christopher Liljenstolpe, was the chief architect for AS3561 (at the time about 30% of the Internet backbone by traffic), and AS1221 (Australia's main Internet infrastructure)
* Joe Hamelin, co-founder of Seattle Internet Exchange (http://www.seattleix.net) in 1997, and former peering engineer for Amazon in 2001
* John Adams, operations engineer at Twitter, signing as a private citizen
* David M. Miller, CTO / Exec VP for DNS Made Easy (IP Anycast Managed Enterprise DNS provider)
* Seth Breidbart, helped build the Pluribus IMP/TIP for the ARPANET
* Timothy McGinnis, co-chair of the African Network Information Center Policy Development Working Group, and active in various IETF Working Groups
* Richard Kulawiec, 30 years designing/operating academic/commercial/ISP systems and networks
* Larry Stewart, built the Etherphone at Xerox, the first telephone system working over a local area network; designed early e-commerce systems for the Internet at Open Market
* John Pettitt, Internet commerce pioneer, online since 1983, CEO Free Range Content Inc.; founder/CTO CyberSource & Beyond.com; created online fraud protection software that processes over 2 billion transaction a year
* Brandon Ross, Chief Network Architect and CEO of Network Utility Force LLC
* Chris Boyd, runs a green hosting company and supports EFF-Austin as a board member
* Dr. Richard Clayton, designer of Turnpike, widely used Windows-based Internet access suite; prominent Computer Security researcher at Cambridge University
* Robert Bonomi, designed, built, and implemented, the Internet presence for a number of large corporations
* Owen DeLong, member of the ARIN Advisory Council who has spent more than a decade developing better IP addressing policies for the internet in North America and around the world
* Baudouin Schombe, blog design and content trainer
* Lyndon Nerenberg, Creator of IMAP Binary extension (RFC 3516)
* John Gilmore, co-designed BOOTP (RFC 951), which became DHCP, the way you get an IP address when you plug into an Ethernet or get on a WiFi access point; current EFF board member
* John Bond, Systems Engineer at RIPE NCC maintaining AS25152 (k.root-servers.net.) and AS197000 (f.in-addr-servers.arpa. ,f.ip6-servers.arpa.); signing as a private citizen
* Stephen Farrell, co-author on about 15 RFCs

part 3:
* Samuel Moats, senior systems engineer for the Department of Defense; helps build and defend the networks that deliver data to Defense Department users
* John Vittal, created the first full email client and the email standards still in use today
* Ryan Rawdon, built out and maintains the network infrastructure for a rapidly growing company in our country's bustling advertising industry; was on the technical operations team for one of our country's largest residential ISPs
* Brian Haberman, has been involved in the design of IPv6, IGMP/MLD, and NTP within the IETF for nearly 15 years
* Eric Tykwinski, Network Engineer working for a small ISP based in the Philadelphia region; currently maintains the network as well as the DNS and server infrastructure
* Noel Chiappa, has been working on the lowest level stuff (the IP protocol level) since 1977; name on the 'Birth of the Internet' plaque at Stanford); actively helping to develop new 'plumbing' at that level
* Robert M. Hinden, worked on the gateways in the early Internet, author of many of the core IPv6 specifications, active in the IETF since the first IETF meeting, author of 37 RFCs, and current Internet Society Board of Trustee member
* Alexander McKenzie, former member of the Network Working Group and participated in the design of the first ARPAnet Host protocols; was the manager of the ARPAnet Network Operation Center that kept the network running in the early 1970s; was a charter member of the International Network Working Group that developed the ideas used in TCP and IP
* Keith Moore, was on the Internet Engineering Steering Group from 1996-2000, as one of two Area Directors for applications; wrote or co-wrote technical specification RFCs associated with email, WWW, and IPv6 transition
* Guy Almes, led the connection of universities in Texas to the NSFnet during the late 1980s; served as Chief Engineer of Internet2 in the late 1990s
* David Mercer, formerly of The River Internet, provided service to more of Arizona than any local or national ISP
* Paul Timmins, designed and runs the multi-state network of a medium sized telephone and internet company in the Midwest
* Stephen L. Casner, led the working group that designed the Real-time Transport Protocol that carries the voice signals in VoIP systems
* Tim Rutherford, DNS and network administrator at C4
* Mike Alexander, helped implement (on the Michigan Terminal System at the University of Michigan) one of the first EMail systems to be connected to the Internet (and to its predecessors such as Bitnet, Mailnet, and UUCP); helped with the basic work to connect MTS to the Internet; implemented various IP related drivers on early Macintosh systems: one allowed TCP/IP connections over ISDN lines and another made a TCP connection look like a serial port
* John Klensin, Ph.D., early and ongoing role in the design of Internet applications and coordination and administrative policies
* L. Jean Camp, former Senior Member of the Technical Staff at Sandia National Laboratories, focusing on computer security; eight years at Harvard's Kennedy School; tenured Professor at Indiana Unviersity's School of Informatics with research addressing security in society.
* Louis Pouzin, designed and implemented the first computer network using datagrams (CYCLADES), from which TCP/IP was derived
* Carl Page, helped found eGroups, the biggest social network
of its day, 14 million users at the point of sale to Yahoo for around $430,000,000, at which point it became Yahoo Groups
* Phil Lapsley, co-author of the Internet Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP), RFC 977, and developer of the NNTP reference implementation
* Jack Haverty (MSEE, BSEE MIT 1970), Principal Investigator for several DARPA projects including the first Internet development and operation; Corporate Network Architect for BBN; Founding member of the IAB/ICCB; Internet Architect and Corporate Founding Member of W3C for Oracle Corporation
* Glenn Ricart, Managed the original (FIX) Internet interconnection point
* Ben Laurie, Apache Software Foundation founder, OpenSSL core team member, security researcher. Over half the secure websites on the Internet are powered by his software.
* Chris Wellens President & CEO InterWorking Labs

U-Bob. I would bet most of those companies that are against it don't create content that gets stolen regularly, just like yourself. The arguments against the bill have merit if it overreaches, and allows false claims to rule the internet. My opinion will have absolutely no effect whatsoever on the outcome of the vote for this bill. I believe the government is corrupt, and many times makes a fake law for a hidden agenda (like 2257), so I do have that concern. However, I depend on government to do the things I can't do for myself. Like creating laws that assist in stopping people from taking things from me that don't belong to them and sharing them with the world against my will, and a quick effective remedy when they do. I hope my point of view makes sense to you, but if not, you can continue to have your opinion of the bill, and anyone that thinks it would be a help to doing business online as a content creator. :thumbsup

All you content creators are going to love it when a model's parents find her nude on the Internet and confront her so she freaks out and starts sending sopa notices to everyone getting your sites/domains/emails/payment processors pulled.

Sure it's illegal to file a false report but do you think they will give a shit when their christian father finds out

If it wasnt for content producers, there would be no porn to make money with. :thumbsup

nice useless post to get the post count up

Yep you got me

I've been fucking talking about this for years on this forum, almost tempted to pull up the dozen or so posts on this exact same piece of legislation.

So many of you said it would never happen, yet, logically it made sense and now here it is...

Once it happens it will be like killing an ant with a nuclear bomb. The government won't be reasonable or fair, they will go to the ISPs and get any site blocked at their discretion. Then we will have fun spending the next 2-10 years trying to get our wrongfully pulled sites back online.

It's going to happen, one way or another. From there it will also only get worse, once you give the government control over ISPs you can't take it back. Today it's to limit piracy, tomorrow it's to limit lewdness on the internet.

and those of you who think America will be the only country to enact it, you're wrong. Once we do it, every government and ISP in the world will eventually follow suit. The power to control what content you can see is a goldmine.

Someone would fill your shoes, they'd just be smart enough to work with a business model that fits 2011 and beyond. Also, plenty of free amateur porn out there being created every single day. If you think people will stop recording good old fucking because of pirates you are insane.

Too bad the Digital Millennium Copyright Act turned out to be such an utterly worthless piece of shit.

Were there any real remedies in place, or even in the distant horizon, SOPA would never have made it out of the womb.

False accusations can be made. You can falsly accuse someone of rape. that will ruin their year, but in the end the truth will out and the accuser will have to bear the consequences.

The Internet is now very quickly being brought under the control of goverments.
In the UK, registration and control of all VOD sites, Control on sites for advertising.

What makes people think the the Internet can take other peoples IP without paying for it?

The US makes billions of dollars from the film, TV, music, news and programming industries, can it just watch as they are trashed ?

The Internet can step up, charge all a flat fee for usage, and pay all the content users for their material or the Internet will be more and more controlled.

Makes me laugh when Google is presented as fighting for people rights. How do you get Google to change its mind when it "offs" a website? Google has no democratic control.