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  • halfpint
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    • Jun 2007
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    #1

    Collecting Rainwater Now Illegal in Many States ???

    Is this true ? If it is its crazy as fuck

    Many of the freedoms we enjoy here in the U.S. are quickly eroding as the nation transforms from the land of the free into the land of the enslaved, but what I’m about to share with you takes the assault on our freedoms to a whole new level. You may not be aware of this, but many Western states, including Utah, Washington and Colorado, have long outlawed individuals from collecting rainwater on their own properties because, according to officials,that rain belongs to someone else.

    As bizarre as it sounds, laws restricting property owners from “diverting” water that falls on their own homes and land have been on the books for quite some time in many Western states. Only recently, as droughts and renewed interest in water conservation methods have become more common, have individuals and business owners started butting heads with law enforcement over the practice of collecting rainwater for personal use.

    Utah news report




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  • SmutHammer
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    #2
    Thios is fucking crazy

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    • Mr Pheer
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      #3
      Of course they want a piece of the action from the guy using it for commercial purposes.

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      • oscer
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        #4
        I guess people will just have to bury the barrels in the ground .... I collect rain water for my garden
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        • halfpint
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          #5
          Originally posted by Mr Pheer
          Of course they want a piece of the action from the guy using it for commercial purposes.
          That is the craziest thing I have ever heard The water guy on the video said that even the girl collecting water and using it for her plants is illegal and she should have some bullshit water rights thingy but they wont go after "small fish"

          That is crazy when you are collecting water from your own roof.

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          • wehateporn
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            • Apr 2007
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            #6
            There's no Fluoride in rainwater, it's important to protect people's teeth by forcing them to use the main water supply......or Not

            Some are saying that the Feds are after lists of customers from a food storage facility.
            http://www.naturalnews.com/034371_fo...omer_list.html

            If people are storing food and collecting rainwater it's a whole lot harder to control them; ideally you need to be able to put whatever you like in their water supply (e.g. Fluoride, Lithium), and for them to follow you around when you hold up a Scooby Snack
            Last edited by wehateporn; 12-11-2011, 01:46 PM.

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            • rowan
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              • Mar 2002
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              #7
              Next they'll be complaining when you piss on a tree rather than into a toilet.

              Around here, new houses MUST have a rainwater tank and collection system, it is permitted, and mandated...

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              • ArsewithClass
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                • Mar 2007
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                #8
                Originally posted by Ed Hammer
                Thios is fucking crazy
                Definitely crazy! In the UK, national preservationists would have a field day


                Water butts save so much water in summer periods, for watering of gardens & much more when the frigging hose pipe bans are prominent

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                • ArsewithClass
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by rowan
                  Next they'll be complaining when you piss on a tree rather than into a toilet.
                  Or demanding you have to piss on the tree rather than in the toilet

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                  • directfiesta
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                    • Oct 2002
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                    #10
                    wait till they make it illegal to ... breathe ... air ...
                    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                    • potter
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                      #11
                      Collecting rain water has been illegal forever. If you'd just educate yourself a little instead of looking at if out of context with no understanding of it.

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                      • uno
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by directfiesta
                        wait till they make it illegal to ... breathe ... air ...
                        They would never do that. How else would people inhale all the chemtrails?
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                        • wehateporn
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by potter
                          Collecting rain water has been illegal forever. If you'd just educate yourself a little instead of looking at if out of context with no understanding of it.
                          Depends which state you're talking about; it's a law associated with many Western states

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                          • potter
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                            #14
                            One of the prime examples. IIRC - Go research it yourself though.

                            Arizona gets pretty much all of it's water from the Colorado River. Arizona has almost NO water for itself, it gets it all from the river flowing in from the north.

                            So, the states to the north in which the Colorado River flows through - have laws about collecting rain water. Because that rain water needs to make it's way to the river. If you had too many people collecting the water instead Arizona and the people living there would have serious serious issues.

                            Just go research it yourself, it's not that hard. I'll never understand why so many people go watch a youtube video and suddenly have some moronic idea about what is happening in the world. How do you get through life believing every little thing that is told to you?

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                            • seeandsee
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                              #15
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                              • ajrocks
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                                • ArsewithClass
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by potter
                                  Collecting rain water has been illegal forever. If you'd just educate yourself a little instead of looking at if out of context with no understanding of it.
                                  You are talking in the US?

                                  In the UK they promote having a water butt

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                                  • ottopottomouse
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                                    #18
                                    This story seems to come around approximately every six months.
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                                    • ThunderBalls
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by potter
                                      One of the prime examples. IIRC - Go research it yourself though.

                                      Arizona gets pretty much all of it's water from the Colorado River. Arizona has almost NO water for itself, it gets it all from the river flowing in from the north.

                                      So, the states to the north in which the Colorado River flows through - have laws about collecting rain water. Because that rain water needs to make it's way to the river. If you had too many people collecting the water instead Arizona and the people living there would have serious serious issues.

                                      Just go research it yourself, it's not that hard. I'll never understand why so many people go watch a youtube video and suddenly have some moronic idea about what is happening in the world. How do you get through life believing every little thing that is told to you?

                                      The Colorado River is made up mostly from snow melt, not rain.

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                                      • georgeyw
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ThunderBalls
                                        The Colorado River is made up mostly from snow melt, not rain.
                                        No surprises there.
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                                        • u-Bob
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                                          #21
                                          Over here (somewhere in the Western EU), you have to report it if you have your own well and pay a special tax on that. And now that they are looking for even more way to get money, politicians started talking about a new rainwater-tax. They're basically planning to tax you based on the size of your roof.

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                                          • newB
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                                            #22
                                            Most states have laws concerning diverting runoff, primarily to protect the rights of those who may be adversely affected by the change - imagine there is a dry creek bed that fills a small pond used as a water hole for livestock on a nearby farm and someone redirects it for their own purposes - the farmer should have some recourse.

                                            Or, imagine you live next to the woman with the rain barrels. Where before you had no problem, now you live next door to a mosquito breeding ground.

                                            It seems reasonable to me to require people to obtain permits allowing them to capture, store, and use the water in proscribed methods designed to have minimum impact on their neighbors, or the community as a whole.

                                            On a personal note, my grandmother's crazy neighbor decided to block the runoff that runs through their back yards when it rains. Now the water pools in my grandmothers back yard, and as a consequence her downstairs floods every time there is any appreciable rainfall. She never did anything about it due to repeated bad run-ins with that crazy bitch, but now that she has passed we need to address it before we eventually sell the house.

                                            Originally posted by wehateporn
                                            If people are storing food and collecting rainwater it's a whole lot harder to control them; ideally you need to be able to put whatever you like in their water supply (e.g. Fluoride, Lithium), and for them to follow you around when you hold up a Scooby Snack
                                            If that were true, why would having a well still be permissible?

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                                            • epitome
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                                              #23
                                              This is neither new, nor is it intended for grandpa that collects water to irrigate his garden.

                                              This is for things on a larger scale, some of which is highlighted above.

                                              Not everything is a conspiracy. When a country has hundreds of millions of people they have to pass laws that make no sense at the individual level but does in the Grand scheme of things.

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                                              • Barefootsies
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                                                #24
                                                I've heard of this happening in countries, or communities, where they have sold off the water rights or signed public water utility management contracts over to BechTel or alike.

                                                Beyond that, I had not heard of it happening otherwise.
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                                                • Fletch XXX
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                                                  #25
                                                  wait, hold on, in a country where just recently we were enslaving blacks, where we cannot legally smoke a natural plant, but we can carry guns into grocery stores? nah could never happen in a place like america

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                                                  • Freaky_Akula
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                                                    #26
                                                    Don't law enforcement officers have anything better to do?

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                                                    • PR_Glen
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                      There's no Fluoride in rainwater, it's important to protect people's teeth by forcing them to use the main water supply......or Not

                                                      Some are saying that the Feds are after lists of customers from a food storage facility.
                                                      http://www.naturalnews.com/034371_fo...omer_list.html

                                                      If people are storing food and collecting rainwater it's a whole lot harder to control them; ideally you need to be able to put whatever you like in their water supply (e.g. Fluoride, Lithium), and for them to follow you around when you hold up a Scooby Snack
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                                                      • wehateporn
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                                        hows those teefus workin out for you batshit?

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                                                        • pornguy
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                                                          #29
                                                          It has nothing to do with who OWNS the water. It has to do with who is getting PAID for the water.
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                                                          • Vendzilla
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by epitome
                                                            This is neither new, nor is it intended for grandpa that collects water to irrigate his garden.

                                                            This is for things on a larger scale, some of which is highlighted above.

                                                            Not everything is a conspiracy. When a country has hundreds of millions of people they have to pass laws that make no sense at the individual level but does in the Grand scheme of things.
                                                            Explain why it's illegal to buy raw milk in California?

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                                                            think about that

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                                                            • Evil1
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                                                              #31
                                                              Oh in that case, if it's someone elses water hitting my house, who the fuck do I sue? their goddamn water is trespassing.

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                                                              • ArsewithClass
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                                                                • Mar 2007
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                In Los Angeles California
                                                                It is illegal for a man to beat his wife with a strap wider than 2 inches without her consent
                                                                PML & in most countries, it's illegal to beat your wife full stop

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                                                                • Ramirez
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Rainwater is free. WTF are people doing? i bet they bought a place on the moon, but who the fuck owns the Moon? Nobody!

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                                                                  • Emil
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                                                                    #34
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                                                                    • porno jew
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                      Explain why it's illegal to buy raw milk in California?
                                                                      because its not safe dumbass?

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                                                                      • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                                        Over here (somewhere in the Western EU), you have to report it if you have your own well and pay a special tax on that. And now that they are looking for even more way to get money, politicians started talking about a new rainwater-tax. They're basically planning to tax you based on the size of your roof.
                                                                        I have a well and pump potable groundwater for drinking and household use. I also own this land's mineral rights but riparian rights ?

                                                                        [A]s with surface water and riparian rights, three theories of underground water rights have evolved. The first theory, known as the absolute ownership theory, derives from ENGLISH LAW and affords landowners the right to withdraw as much underground water as they wish, for whatever purpose, requiring their neighbors to fend for themselves. Under the second theory, known as the American rule, landowners may withdraw as much underground water as they like as long as it is not done for a malicious purpose or in a wasteful manner. This theory is now applied in a majority of jurisdictions in the United States.

                                                                        California has developed a third theory of underground water rights, known as the correlative theory. The correlative theory provides each landowner with an equal right to use underground water for a beneficial purpose. But landowners are not given the prerogative to seriously deplete a neighbor's water supply. In the event of water shortage, courts may apportion an underground supply among landowners. Many states facing acute or chronic shortages have adopted the correlative theory of under-ground water rights. ...

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                                                                        • ArsewithClass
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Ramirez
                                                                          Rainwater is free. WTF are people doing? i bet they bought a place on the moon, but who the fuck owns the Moon? Nobody!
                                                                          Yeah man, total truth
                                                                          Water falls in large reservoirs... are they saying it belongs to the water boards?

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                                                                          • ArsewithClass
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                            because its not safe dumbass?
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                                                                            • Socks
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by potter
                                                                              One of the prime examples. IIRC - Go research it yourself though.

                                                                              Arizona gets pretty much all of it's water from the Colorado River. Arizona has almost NO water for itself, it gets it all from the river flowing in from the north.

                                                                              So, the states to the north in which the Colorado River flows through - have laws about collecting rain water. Because that rain water needs to make it's way to the river. If you had too many people collecting the water instead Arizona and the people living there would have serious serious issues.

                                                                              Just go research it yourself, it's not that hard. I'll never understand why so many people go watch a youtube video and suddenly have some moronic idea about what is happening in the world. How do you get through life believing every little thing that is told to you?
                                                                              I get that this is a common sense law in some places, but I wonder if they also control the corporations the same way as they do the public? For example, they say that water can't be destroyed, only converted to a different form, and so minus the water we've sent into space, we have the same amount of water on earth as when the dinosaurs lived.

                                                                              I've often wondered what kind of effect putting so much water into bottles, cans, and tanks has on the worldwide water supply and levels? Think how many cans of soup there are right now, sitting on shelves. How many cases of coke, beer, wine, juice... It must be astronomical.

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                                                                              • Overload
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                                because its not safe dumbass?
                                                                                only if the cows have been raised with monsanto shit raw milk from HEALTHY COWS AINT BAD AT ALL!
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                                                                                • 2MuchMark
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Didn't you know? The water rights are being bought up by Coca Cola and Nestle. Collecting rain water is theft!

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                                                                                  • epitome
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Socks
                                                                                    I get that this is a common sense law in some places, but I wonder if they also control the corporations the same way as they do the public? For example, they say that water can't be destroyed, only converted to a different form, and so minus the water we've sent into space, we have the same amount of water on earth as when the dinosaurs lived.

                                                                                    I've often wondered what kind of effect putting so much water into bottles, cans, and tanks has on the worldwide water supply and levels? Think how many cans of soup there are right now, sitting on shelves. How many cases of coke, beer, wine, juice... It must be astronomical.
                                                                                    Coca Cola made 1 billion white cans this year to raise money for polar bears. Within two or three weeks of releasing they were back to the regular cans. I can't imagine the number of cans of coke sold in a year.

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                                                                                    • kristin
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by epitome
                                                                                      Coca Cola made 1 billion white cans this year to raise money for polar bears. Within two or three weeks of releasing they were back to the regular cans. I can't imagine the number of cans of coke sold in a year.
                                                                                      They went back to the regular cans because sales tanked. People thought it was diet coke, didn't realize it was a special can. I had to do a double take at the pizza shop when I got one because I thought it was diet.

                                                                                      They came out with a new red, polar bear can.

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                                                                                      • SleazyDream
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Socks
                                                                                        For example, they say that water can't be destroyed, only converted to a different form, and so minus the water we've sent into space, we have the same amount of water on earth as when the dinosaurs lived.
                                                                                        no, we have more. Comets and meteorites (small ones as well as large ones) hit the earth all the time, and many contain water. it doesn't sound like a lot, but over millions of years and the amount of objects the hit the earth every day ads up to a lot of water
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                                                                                        • V_RocKs
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Taxes: When it rains, they pour in.

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                                                                                          • Why
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            we do not always have the same amount of water on earth, it is constantly changing, because it is not an element it is a compound. we in theory have the same amount of hydrogen and oxygen molecules on earth as we always have(note: lots of things come and go from earth as sleazy pointed out above), how many of those are tied together in the h2o compound can very greatly.

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                                                                                            • WarChild
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Bermuda has no natural fresh water sources so all water is collected as rainwater. The roofs are made of limestone to counter acid rain and it is collected in tanks for drinking water in each house. Just a fun fact.
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