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  • wehateporn
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    Vaccination Information for Smart People

    Merck scientist Dr Maurice Hilleman admits Cancer in Vaccines


    ALL the Vaccines Are Contaminated - Every Last One of Them
    http://www.salem-news.com/articles/n...minated-se.php

    Dr Andrew Wakefield In His Own Words (full interview)


    How Mercury Destroys the Brain - University of Calgary


    More Vaccines = More Cancer


    Dr Oz Refuses to Vaccinate his Own Kids

    Gary Null Speaking Out in NYS Assembly Hearing


    Vaccination Quotes - Many more here http://www.vaclib.org/basic/quotes.htm

    "My suspicion, which is shared by others in my profession, is that the nearly 10,000 SIDS deaths that occur in the United States each year are related to one or more of the vaccines that are routinely given children. The pertussis vaccine is the most likely villain, but it could also be one or more of the others." --Dr. Mendelsohn, M.D.

    "The evidence for indicting immunisations for SIDS is circumstantial, but compelling. However, the keepers of the keys to medical-research funds are not interested in researching this very important lead to the cause of an ongoing, and possibly preventable, tragedy. Anything that implies that immunisations are not the greatest medical advance in the history of public health is ignored or ridiculed. Can you imagine the economic and political import of discovering that immunisations are killing thousands of babies?" --Dr. Douglass M.D.

    "Only after realising that routine immunisations were dangerous did I achieve a substantial drop in infant death rates. The worst vaccine of all is the whooping cough vaccine... it is responsible for a lot of deaths and for a lot of infants suffering irreversible brain damage. In susceptible infants, it knocks their immune systems about, leading to irreparable brain damage, or severe attacks or even deaths from diseases like pneumonia or gastro-enteritis and so on." --Dr. Kalokerinos, M.D.

    "Delay of DPT immunisation until 2 years of age in Japan has resulted in a dramatic decline in adverse side effects. In the period of 1970-1974, when DPT vaccination was begun at 3 to 5 months of age, the Japanese national compensation system paid out claims for 57 permanent severe damage vaccine cases, and 37 deaths. During the ensuing six year period 1975-1980, when DPT injections were delayed to 24 months of age, severe reactions from the vaccine were reduced to a total of eight with three deaths. This represents an 85 to 90 percent reduction in severe cases of damage and death." --Raymond Obomsawin, M.D.

    "Autism may be a disorder linked to the disruption of the G-alpha protein, affecting retinoid receptors in the brain. A study of sixty autistic children suggests that autism may be caused by inserting a G-alpha protein defect, the pertussis toxin found in the D.P.T. vaccine, into genetically at-risk children." --Mary N. Megson, M.D.

    "This report describes six mothers who received live virus vaccines and one who received a Hepatitis B vaccine during pregnancy after having received an MMR booster five months prior to conception. All the children who resulted from these pregnancies have had developmental problems, six out seven (85%) were diagnosed with autism, and the seventh seems to exhibit symptoms often associated with autistic spectrum disorders." --F. EdwardYazbak, MD

    "Every day new parents are ringing us. They all have the same tragic story. Healthy baby, child, teenager, usually a boy, given the DPT (diphtheria, pertussis and tetanus) or DT (diphtheria and tetanus), MMR or MMR booster followed by a sudden fall or slow, but steady decline into autism or other spectrums disorder."--The Hope Project (Ireland)

    "There is no evidence whatsoever of the ability of vaccines to prevent any diseases. To the contrary, there is a great wealth of evidence that they cause serious side effects." -- Dr. Viera Scheibner

    "My data proves that the studies used to support immunisation are so flawed that it is impossible to say if immunisation provides a net benefit to anyone or to society in general. This question can only be determined by proper studies which have never been performed. The flaw of previous studies is that there was no long term follow up and chronic toxicity was not looked at. The American Society of Microbiology has promoted my research...and thus acknowledges the need for proper studies." --John B.Classen, M.D., M.B.A.

    "The medical authorities keep lying. Vaccination has been a disaster on the immune system. It actually causes a lot of illnesses. We are changing our genetic code through vaccination." --Guylaine Lanctot M.D. Canadian author of the best-seller 'Medical Mafia'.

    Jonas Salk, inventor of the IPV, testified before a Senate subcommittee that nearly all polio outbreaks since 1961 were caused by the oral polio vaccine.

    "Crib death" was so infrequent in the pre-vaccination era that it was not even mentioned in the statistics, but it started to climb in the 1950s with the spread of mass vaccination against diseases of childhood. --Harris L.Coulter, PhD.

    "These data show that DPT vaccination may be a generally unrecognised major cause of sudden infant and early childhood death, and that the risks of immunisation may outweigh its potential benefits. A need for re-evaluation and possible modification of current vaccination procedures is indicated by this study." --William C. Torch, M.D., Director of Child Neurology, Department of Paediatrics, University of Nevada School of Medicine

    "You cannot be in the presence of a profoundly vaccine damaged child and not know that child could be your own. And you cannot try to comfort a mother who has just buried a baby who has died from a vaccine or a disease and not know that you could be the one standing over the grave. When it happens to your child, the risks are 100 percent." -Anonymous

    "Vaccination is not necessary, not useful, does not protect. There are twice as many casualties from vaccination as from AIDS." --Dr. Gerhard Buchwald, West Germany, specialist of internal diseases and participant in about 150 trials of vaccination victims.

    Dr. Michael Odent has written a letter in the JAMA (1994) where his figures show a five times higher rate of asthma in pertussis immunised children compared to non-immunised children. He is also quoted in the International Vaccination Newsletter (Sept. 1994): "Immunised children have more ear infections and spend more days in hospital."

    "The public is surely entitled to convincing proof, beyond all reasonable doubt, that artificial immunisation is in fact a safe and effective procedure, in no way injurious to health, and that the threat of the corresponding natural diseases remain sufficiently clear and urgent to warrant mass inoculation of everyone, even against their will if necessary. Unfortunately, such proof has never been given." --Richard Moskowitz, M.D., Journal of the American Institute of Homeopathy, March 1983 (76:7)

    "Vaccination is expensive and represents a cost of one billion dollars annually. It therefore benefits the industry; most notably, the multinational manufacturers. One sells the vaccines. The other then provides the arsenal of medications to respond to the numerous complications that follow. Their profits increase while our expenses go through the roof. To the point where we have simply had it up to here and are ready to accept the unacceptable, such as socialised medicine in the United States, for example." --Dr Lanctot MD
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  • wehateporn
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    Former Vaccine Researcher would move State rather than have his own children vaccinated
    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/rappo...rjan2002.shtml

    Last edited by wehateporn; 12-09-2011, 01:46 AM.

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    • WarChild
      Let slip the dogs of war.
      • Jan 2003
      • 17263

      #3
      99.99% of the Medical Science community is on one side and wehateporn on the other. Who do you stand with??

      It's comforting that genetic dead-ends like him don't believe in vaccination though. It can only help the gene pool.
      .

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      • PR_Glen
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        • Oct 2006
        • 9058

        #4
        i've read small pox helps you get rich and powerful and become a member of the illuminati.





        ...by read i mean there was this youtube video.
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        • Phoenix
          BACON BACON BACON
          • Nov 2002
          • 35475

          #5
          the thing is....most vaccines are helpful....you know polio...smallpox etc

          it is the untested flu ones that worry me

          and i hear that there are many many extra vaccines you can give your kids if you wish

          ill stick to the standards..id rather fight the flu every couple years and keep my immune system strong
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          • wehateporn
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            • Apr 2007
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            #6
            Big Pharma is a religion and you are one of it's loyal followers. 99.99% of priests believe in God, does that prove they're right? What you thought was REAL SCIENCE was actually just SALES/MARKETING FAKE SCIENCE. You're naive if you haven't worked that one out yet.

            A lot of the medical community don't want to receive vaccines, like Dr Oz who won't vaccinate his children, but he still has to tell everyone else to get vaccinated or else he'd lose his job and funding.

            Swine flu fears grow as NHS staff shun vaccine
            http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...ic-vaccine-nhs

            H1N1 vaccine debate heats up. Dr. Oz admits his wife and children won't be vaccinated.
            http://www.examiner.com/holistic-fam...-be-vaccinated

            Vaccines are being used for fertility reduction (HPV and Swine Flu) so it's the WarChild Clan who are near to the end of their journey. However, even if we just look at this from the point of view of honest vaccines, it would still leave you with a couch-potato immune system, while the unvaccinated will have gained their Black Belts. Basic Logic!

            Originally posted by WarChild
            99.99% of the Medical Science community is on one side and wehateporn on the other. Who do you stand with??

            It's comforting that genetic dead-ends like him don't believe in vaccination though. It can only help the gene pool.

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            • devilspost
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              • Feb 2004
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              #7
              Dr. Stanley Plotkin discusses the history of vaccines, as well as the role the government played in their creation and regulation on cspan Washington Journal.

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              • wehateporn
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                #8
                History of Vaccines

                Fast forward to 52 minutes 30 seconds

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                • wehateporn
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by devilspost
                  Dr. Stanley Plotkin discusses the history of vaccines, as well as the role the government played in their creation and regulation on cspan Washington Journal.
                  I'll take a look at this later on tonight devilspost

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                  • Caligari
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                    • Oct 2009
                    • 5414

                    #10
                    Originally posted by devilspost
                    Dr. Stanley Plotkin discusses the history of vaccines, as well as the role the government played in their creation and regulation on cspan Washington Journal.
                    looks interesting will check it out

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                    • Si
                      Such Fun!
                      • Feb 2008
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                      #11
                      Ok WeHatePorn, try and do this for me.

                      Find a vaccine given to most children, I don't know which one, perhaps polio, measles something along them lines. The kind you would be given without even know about it (because you're too young to remember)

                      Then link that to a disease other than autism which is still unproven and gets knocked back and forth like a tennis ball between the 2 vaccine camps (pro/anti)

                      Something like Meningitis, HPV, Leukemia whatever.

                      Should be pretty simple to do if this is true.
                      Last edited by Si; 12-09-2011, 05:54 AM.

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                      • WarChild
                        Let slip the dogs of war.
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 17263

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Si
                        Ok WeHatePorn, try and do this for me.

                        Find a vaccine given to most children, I don't know which one, perhaps polio, measles something along them lines. The kind you would be given without even know about it (because you're too young to remember)

                        Then link that to a disease other than autism which is still unproven and gets knocked backed and forth like a tennis ball between the 2 vaccine camps (pro/anti)

                        Something like Meningitis, HPV, Leukemia whatever.

                        Should be pretty simple to do if this is true.
                        You can't use common sense or logic to communicate with him. You'll need to make a Youtube video with some frightening music.
                        .

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                        • wehateporn
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Si
                          Ok WeHatePorn, try and do this for me.

                          Find a vaccine given to most children, I don't know which one, perhaps polio, measles something along them lines. The kind you would be given without even know about it (because you're too young to remember)

                          Then link that to a disease other than autism which is still unproven and gets knocked backed and forth like a tennis ball between the 2 vaccine camps (pro/anti)

                          Something like Meningitis, HPV, Leukemia whatever.

                          Should be pretty simple to do if this is true.
                          I certainly will do, I'm glad you've asked.

                          I've got a few duties to perform now, but I'm looking forward to answering this one for you

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                          • Si
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                            • Feb 2008
                            • 13900

                            #14
                            Originally posted by wehateporn
                            I certainly will do, I'm glad you've asked.

                            I've got a few duties to perform now, but I'm looking forward to answering this one for you
                            You said that before in one of your anti-pharmaceutical threads and it never materialised.

                            Will wait and see what happens this time.

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                            • WarChild
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                              • Jan 2003
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                              #15
                              Here's a question for you wehateporn. Try to answer is honestly.

                              If one of your family members was having a heart attack or in a very bad car accident, would you take them to a hospital to be treated be a doctor or try to research your own medical advice on the Internet and let them die?
                              .

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                              • PR_Glen
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                                • Oct 2006
                                • 9058

                                #16
                                Originally posted by WarChild
                                Here's a question for you wehateporn. Try to answer is honestly.

                                If one of your family members was having a heart attack or in a very bad car accident, would you take them to a hospital to be treated be a doctor or try to research your own medical advice on the Internet and let them die?
                                the nwo drive the ambulances...
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                                • WarChild
                                  Let slip the dogs of war.
                                  • Jan 2003
                                  • 17263

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Si
                                  You said that before in one of your anti-pharmaceutical threads and it never materialised.

                                  Will wait and see what happens this time.
                                  People are living longer and healthier lives than ever before. The infant mortality rate is at its lowest in recorded history. Simple facts like these fly directly in the face of this moron's insane and twisted "logic".
                                  .

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                                  • Si
                                    Such Fun!
                                    • Feb 2008
                                    • 13900

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by WarChild
                                    People are living longer and healthier lives than ever before. The infant mortality rate is at its lowest in recorded history. Simple facts like these fly directly in the face of this moron's insane and twisted "logic".
                                    You're totally right. Except Obesity is creeping up. That's a whole other subject though.

                                    Unless there is a link to vaccines causing fat lazy bastards who enjoy eating greasy shit with no nutritional value?

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                                    • VikingMan
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                                      • Jan 2008
                                      • 6859

                                      #19
                                      I say let people pump themselves with countless dangerous vaccines, toxic prescription drugs, fluoride (toxic waste from fertilizer industry), and GMO franken food from factory farms that is laced with an every increasing amount of poison. If they are that fucking dumb then the world needs less of people like that. Merry Christmas

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                                      • JFK
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                                        • Jan 2002
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                                        #20
                                        every year the doctor offers me the flue vaccine, NO thanks

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                                        • _Richard_
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                                          • Oct 2006
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by WarChild
                                          99.99% of the Medical Science community is on one side and wehateporn on the other. Who do you stand with??

                                          It's comforting that genetic dead-ends like him don't believe in vaccination though. It can only help the gene pool.
                                          how are vaccinations not modern day sacrifices?

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                                          • PR_Glen
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                                            • Oct 2006
                                            • 9058

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by lumenus
                                            I say let people pump themselves with countless dangerous vaccines, toxic prescription drugs, fluoride (toxic waste from fertilizer industry), and GMO franken food from factory farms that is laced with an every increasing amount of poison. If they are that fucking dumb then the world needs less of people like that. Merry Christmas
                                            which ones are the dangerous vaccines again? there are some out there that i feel i don't need personally but i don't recall any dangerous ones..

                                            fluoride? you don't use fluoride when you go to the dentist? do you have any teeth left? or do you tell the ladies you are a hockey player?


                                            world population has climbed exponentially in every country that has introduced vaccines at a basic level. What do you think makes that possible? diet cola?



                                            one problem with every nay sayer and conspiracy kook on this topic would be the doctors who make these decisions have their own families vaccinated just the same. What would be their motivation to hurt their own families again? oh yes.. pure evil.. yes this is so common i completely forgot...
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                                            • wehateporn
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                                              • Apr 2007
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Si
                                              Ok WeHatePorn, try and do this for me.

                                              Find a vaccine given to most children, I don't know which one, perhaps polio, measles something along them lines. The kind you would be given without even know about it (because you're too young to remember)

                                              Then link that to a disease other than autism which is still unproven and gets knocked back and forth like a tennis ball between the 2 vaccine camps (pro/anti)

                                              Something like Meningitis, HPV, Leukemia whatever.

                                              Should be pretty simple to do if this is true.
                                              The immune system is incredibly complex, we know very little about it, that's why we're always 'Researching' it. The problem is that every time we fiddle with the immune system there's a chance that as well as creating the desired immunity, we will also cause an autoimmune disease or an allergy; leaving our immune system fighting against us for the rest of our lives. Most people with one of these vaccine-induced autoimmune diseases won't be aware that it came from a vaccine; as the system is designed to be blind to that possibility.

                                              There are so many examples I know of, let's look at the autoimmune disease Diabetes Type 1 and the Hib (Haemophilus influenzae type B) vaccine. Also, keep in mind that they don't track for these issues and it's a nightmare to get funding for such a study as funding is meant to be an investment; not something that you shoot yourself in the foot with. This will be just the tip of the iceberg

                                              ----------------------------------------------------------------
                                              Association between type 1 diabetes and Hib vaccine
                                              Causal relation is likely
                                              http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1116914/

                                              The rise in diabetes, just one potential adverse effect, exceeds the benefit of the vaccine, which has been estimated to prevent seven deaths and 7-26 cases of severe disability per 100 000 children immunised. Even the difference in cases of diabetes between the groups receiving four doses and one dose exceeds the mean expected benefit. Temporal changes in the incidence of diabetes do not explain the differences since there were an extra 31 cases of type 1 diabetes per 100 000 children aged 5-10, and the incidence of diabetes in this group had been stable for about 10 years before this. Furthermore, sharp rises in diabetes have been recorded in the United States and the United Kingdom after the introduction of the haemophilus vaccine.
                                              -------------------------------------------------


                                              Now let's look at links between the Polio Vaccine and increase risk of Type 1 Diabetes. Also before someone says "but it's better we have Diabetes Type 1 rather than Polio" keep in mind what the inventor of the Polio vaccine testified to the senate

                                              "Jonas Salk, inventor of the IPV, testified before a Senate subcommittee that nearly all polio outbreaks since 1961 were caused by the oral polio vaccine."

                                              This study here links the Polio vaccines with an increased risk of Type 1 Diabetes
                                              http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=...e8NfI6NQ&pli=1

                                              From the above study...

                                              ---------------------------------------------------------------
                                              The results (Table 1) show that in the general population
                                              there was an elevated unadjusted rate ratio associated with
                                              many different vaccines including the hemophilus, MMR,
                                              polio, whole cell pertussis, and the combined diphtheria,
                                              tetanus inactive polio vaccine. The vaccines were associated
                                              with an statistically increased risk of type 1 diabetes in 12 of
                                              21 endpoints in the general population. No endpoints showed
                                              that vaccines were associated with a decreased risk of diabe-
                                              tes. The data showed that the three doses of the hemophilus
                                              vaccine were associated with a rate ratio of 1.23 (p=0.03)
                                              after approximately eight years of follow-up. A statistically
                                              significant dosing effect was seen with the polio vaccine and
                                              a non significant trend was seen with the whole cell pertussis
                                              vaccine, the hemophilus vaccine, and the combined diphthe-
                                              ria, tetanus, and inactive polio vaccine.
                                              ------------------------------------------------------------
                                              Last edited by wehateporn; 12-09-2011, 08:28 AM.

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                                              • wehateporn
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                                                #24
                                                Here's a key line from the first study

                                                "Furthermore, sharp rises in diabetes have been recorded in the United States and the United Kingdom after the introduction of the haemophilus vaccine."

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                                                • wehateporn
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by _Richard_
                                                  how are vaccinations not modern day sacrifices?
                                                  Excellent analogy!

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                                                  • EonBlue
                                                    Apocalypse
                                                    • May 2007
                                                    • 3043

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                    Merck scientist Dr Maurice Hilleman admits Cancer in Vaccines
                                                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Hilleman

                                                    Maurice was one of the early vaccine pioneers to warn about the possibility that simian viruses might contaminate vaccines.[6] The best-known of these viruses became SV40, a viral contaminant of the polio vaccine, whose discovery led to the recall of Salk's vaccine in 1961 and its replacement with Albert Sabin's oral vaccine. The contamination actually occurred in both vaccines at very low levels, and, because they were ingested rather than injected, did not result in infections or any harm.

                                                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SV40


                                                    Originally posted by wehateporn;
                                                    Dr Andrew Wakefield In His Own Words (full interview)
                                                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield

                                                    Andrew Wakefield (born 1957) is a British former surgeon and medical researcher, known as an advocate for the discredited claim that there is a link between the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine, autism and bowel disease, and for his fraudulent 1998 research paper in support of that claim.[1]


                                                    Originally posted by wehateporn;
                                                    Dr Oz Refuses to Vaccinate his Own Kids
                                                    http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/...r-shame-dr-oz/

                                                    Dr. Oz is a quack. And he only refused to vaccinate his kids against H1N1. He has never really been an anti-vaccine crusader.


                                                    Jenny McCarthy used to claim that vaccines caused her son's autism. Now she says he is cured because of a change in his diet. Which is it?

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                                                    • wehateporn
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by JFK
                                                      every year the doctor offers me the flue vaccine, NO thanks

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                                                      • DoubleD
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                                                        • Dec 2003
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                                                        #28
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                                                        • VikingMan
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                                                          • Jan 2008
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                                          which ones are the dangerous vaccines again? there are some out there that i feel i don't need personally but i don't recall any dangerous ones..

                                                          fluoride? you don't use fluoride when you go to the dentist? do you have any teeth left? or do you tell the ladies you are a hockey player?


                                                          world population has climbed exponentially in every country that has introduced vaccines at a basic level. What do you think makes that possible? diet cola?



                                                          one problem with every nay sayer and conspiracy kook on this topic would be the doctors who make these decisions have their own families vaccinated just the same. What would be their motivation to hurt their own families again? oh yes.. pure evil.. yes this is so common i completely forgot...
                                                          I go to a prominent dentist who has been fighting a war against fluoride for most of his career. Even the twats at the AMA have reluctantly warned that babies and infants should never consume fluoride and that the levels in public water should be reduced since about 40% of kids now have some degree of fluorosis. Fluorosis makes your teeth discolored and weak which results in cavities, pitting, etc. If it does this to your teeth just imagine what it does to your brain. I have not used fluoride for over 10 years and I don't get cavities.

                                                          As far as vaccines go.....Doctors are not all intellectuals so they do what they are told. They also get lots of money for pushing these vaccines and drugs. If you have a kid go ahead and pump them full of all this garbage and lets compare my kid's intellect with yours in 10 or 20 years. My kid is the epitome of good health and has only had one vaccine (after which she became so ill she was hospitalized), eats almost 100% organic and raw food, and receives natural therapies when she gets a sniffle or cough instead of that nasty shit at the drug store. Her skin glows, her eyes shine, and she is taller than other kids her age. So far so good for my bright, gorgeous and vivacious little conspiracy kook
                                                          Last edited by VikingMan; 12-09-2011, 09:08 AM.

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                                                          • L-Pink
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                                                            • Mar 2005
                                                            • 39151

                                                            #30
                                                            Girls with polio are hot.

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                                                            • DoubleD
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                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                              • 758

                                                              #31


                                                              I know I've been sticking with Penn here..but I do feel he has a good way with words on this one...again we can all look at the data and draw our own conclusions...
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                                                              • VikingMan
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                                                                • Jan 2008
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                                                                #32
                                                                Edward Bernays socially engineered the dummy masses to accept toxic waste in their water supply. People are dumb, fluoride makes then even dumber.
                                                                Last edited by VikingMan; 12-09-2011, 09:38 AM.

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                                                                • wehateporn
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                                                                  • Apr 2007
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                                                  which ones are the dangerous vaccines again? there are some out there that i feel i don't need personally but i don't recall any dangerous ones..
                                                                  They don't market that side of it to the common folk, it's just not good for business

                                                                  "The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used."

                                                                  --Dr. James A. Shannon, National Institutes of Health


                                                                  Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                                                  fluoride? you don't use fluoride when you go to the dentist? do you have any teeth left? or do you tell the ladies you are a hockey player?
                                                                  Look into the Mellon Institute; they also 'proved' Asbestos and Tobacco were safe. They 'proved' that Carcinogenic Fluoride was 'safe'

                                                                  Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                                                  world population has climbed exponentially in every country that has introduced vaccines at a basic level. What do you think makes that possible? diet cola?
                                                                  Vaccines are bad for Infant Mortality Rates, that's why USA is in such shockly bad position (34th) despite that fact they spend so much on the 'healthcare' of every child. When Japan stopped vaccinating their under-2's their infant mortality jumped right up to the best in the world, crib/cot death almost completely disappeared. The US mandates 26 vaccines. That's more than double the number of vaccines that the countries with better IMR's give.

                                                                  Infant Mortality Rates Increase With Vaccines
                                                                  http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.c...rtality-rates/

                                                                  Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                                                  one problem with every nay sayer and conspiracy kook on this topic would be the doctors who make these decisions have their own families vaccinated just the same. What would be their motivation to hurt their own families again? oh yes.. pure evil.. yes this is so common i completely forgot...
                                                                  Doctor's don't research this, they are provided with the information and are expected to trust it. They learn very little about the immune system in Med School. These days they get a message on their computers saying which vaccines they need to administer. They also get paid per vaccine. Some doctors just do what they're told and don't think for themselves, whereas others are smart enough to investigate for themselves outside the Church of Big Pharma.
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by lumenus
                                                                    Edward Bernays socially engineered the dummy masses to accept toxic waste in their water supply. People are dumb, fluoride makes then even dumber.
                                                                    Bernays has a lot to answer for

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                                                                      #35
                                                                      it is because of idiots like you that many diseases that were more or less eradicated are returning. thanks for helping society move back to a more primitive, backwards, anti-scientific age and causing needless suffering.

                                                                      i have debunked all your crap youtube videos in other threads and dont feel like doing it again.

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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by EonBlue
                                                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Hilleman
                                                                        Maurice was one of the early vaccine pioneers to warn about the possibility that simian viruses might contaminate vaccines.[6] The best-known of these viruses became SV40, a viral contaminant of the polio vaccine, whose discovery led to the recall of Salk's vaccine in 1961 and its replacement with Albert Sabin's oral vaccine. The contamination actually occurred in both vaccines at very low levels, and, because they were ingested rather than injected, did not result in infections or any harm.
                                                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SV40
                                                                        A low level of a Cancer-Causing Virus wouldn't make me feel much better. You only need one to infect a cell, once complete the host cell is ready to infect other cells in the organism.

                                                                        The law didn't require the infected vaccines to be thrown away. Injected vaccines were injected into children until 1963
                                                                        "As a result, known SV40 contaminated vaccines were injected into children up until 1963. In addition, it has been alleged that there have been SV40-contaminated batches of oral polio vaccine administered to some children until the end of the 1990's." http://www.sv40foundation.org/

                                                                        The government has never demanded that that Big Pharma open up their freezers for independent testing to see if SV40 has been removed. http://www.sv40foundation.org/SV40-from-PV.html

                                                                        Big Pharma makes Big Money from Cancer!

                                                                        Originally posted by EonBlue
                                                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield
                                                                        Andrew Wakefield (born 1957) is a British former surgeon and medical researcher, known as an advocate for the discredited claim that there is a link between the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine, autism and bowel disease, and for his fraudulent 1998 research paper in support of that claim.[1]
                                                                        Dr Wakefield is very well known, his case is always used as 'The Example', they say what you said above, but they don't give the full story. This is exactly why I posted the video, so as people would have the opportunity to listen to his side of the story.

                                                                        Originally posted by EonBlue
                                                                        http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/...r-shame-dr-oz/

                                                                        Dr. Oz is a quack. And he only refused to vaccinate his kids against H1N1. He has never really been an anti-vaccine crusader.
                                                                        Dr. Oz has been a key player in Pro-Vaccine propaganda, in particular he did this during the Swine Flu media campaign. He told everyone how important it was to take the vaccine. This is why it's significant that he wasn't going to vaccinate his own children. i.e. This man cannot be trusted, he's just a shill; actions speak louder than words


                                                                        Originally posted by EonBlue
                                                                        Jenny McCarthy used to claim that vaccines caused her son's autism. Now she says he is cured because of a change in his diet. Which is it?
                                                                        You can try to cure it, but it's an autoimmune disease. You can improve it, but we don't yet know how to reverse it.

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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                          it is because of idiots like you that many diseases that were more or less eradicated are returning. thanks for helping society move back to a more primitive, backwards, anti-scientific age and causing needless suffering.
                                                                          Childhood diseases are good, they toughen us up, as long as you're not malnourished, but one should never vaccinate a malnourished child either. Childhood illnesses leave you immune to various Cancers, make you grow taller, make you smarter. If your immune system spends its days on the sofa watching tv, it's not good for it; it needs to get active

                                                                          http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=0752DA...F40B104A322319

                                                                          Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                          i have debunked all your crap youtube videos in other threads and dont feel like doing it again.
                                                                          Only in your dreams

                                                                          http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=0752DA...F40B104A322319

                                                                          Stop believing Big Business is here to help us, they're here to profit, injecting us with disease boosts profits.
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                            Girls with polio are hot.

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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by lumenus
                                                                              I say let people pump themselves with countless dangerous vaccines, toxic prescription drugs, fluoride (toxic waste from fertilizer industry), and GMO franken food from factory farms that is laced with an every increasing amount of poison. If they are that fucking dumb then the world needs less of people like that. Merry Christmas
                                                                              Smart, informed, and thinking people know this, but the problem is these "fucking dumb" people (as you put it) who follow the propaganda blindly and get vaccinated, eat GMO, drink fluoride, take toxic prescription drugs ..etc all end up ultimately supporting these monstrous murdering companies with their dollars. When they do, it only creates a bigger monster. Now the monster has more dollars to propagandize, and lobby government to allow more and more of their "nutritious goodness" to be foisted upon the rest of us. It's also why the vitamin/herbal/homeopathic health industry is now being so viciously attacked.

                                                                              The only way out is to expose and educate.

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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                                Childhood diseases are good
                                                                                you take delusion to a new level. congrats on your ignorance.

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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by DoubleD


                                                                                  I know I've been sticking with Penn here..but I do feel he has a good way with words on this one...again we can all look at the data and draw our own conclusions...
                                                                                  Penn's video will convince many, I'm sure they've been paid a lot of money to create it.

                                                                                  Unfortunately they're working with inaccurate Church of Big Pharma 'facts', which ignore Cot/Crib Death, Cancer, Diabetes Type 1, etc etc. See the infant mortality rates a few posts above to see how bad USA is doing whilst mandating the most vaccines.

                                                                                  That's only half of it though, it's not just the people who are dying or having their lives destroyed by vaccination, it's also the myth that these illnesses would return if we stopped vaccinating. The illnesses declined before mass vaccination programs, all of the graphs suggest their decline is linked to improvements in sanitation and nutrition. In fact, it gets worse, those illnesses actually increased after mass vaccination programs; they were coming from the vaccines

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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by lumenus
                                                                                    I go to a prominent dentist who has been fighting a war against fluoride for most of his career. Even the twats at the AMA have reluctantly warned that babies and infants should never consume fluoride and that the levels in public water should be reduced since about 40% of kids now have some degree of fluorosis. Fluorosis makes your teeth discolored and weak which results in cavities, pitting, etc. If it does this to your teeth just imagine what it does to your brain. I have not used fluoride for over 10 years and I don't get cavities.

                                                                                    As far as vaccines go.....Doctors are not all intellectuals so they do what they are told. They also get lots of money for pushing these vaccines and drugs. If you have a kid go ahead and pump them full of all this garbage and lets compare my kid's intellect with yours in 10 or 20 years. My kid is the epitome of good health and has only had one vaccine (after which she became so ill she was hospitalized), eats almost 100% organic and raw food, and receives natural therapies when she gets a sniffle or cough instead of that nasty shit at the drug store. Her skin glows, her eyes shine, and she is taller than other kids her age. So far so good for my bright, gorgeous and vivacious little conspiracy kook
                                                                                    Well said *******

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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                                      Only in your dreams
                                                                                      most of what you post is complete and utter garbage with no sources, outright fabrications, or misinterpretations and misreadings of sources and facts. i have debunked your crap many times. you are just extremely deluded and believe anything blindly that confirms your bizarre worldview. you have no critical thinking skills or discernment. you are either very stupid, deluded, or possibly paranoid schizophrenic. maybe all three. there is no point really discussing any of this with you are you are fixated on a set of deluded beliefs.

                                                                                      i am posting here because it`s cranks like you that are reverting the health of developed nations back to the dark ages.

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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                                        you take delusion to a new level. congrats on your ignorance.
                                                                                        Going for the messenger is always a sign of desperation, I know I'm good at this particular debate; you're getting frustrated. Try to calm down and watch some videos or read some of the sites I've linked to

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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                                          most of what you post is complete and utter garbage with no sources, outright fabrications, or misinterpretations and misreadings of sources and facts. i have debunked your crap many times. you are just extremely deluded and believe anything blindly that confirms your bizarre worldview. you have no critical thinking skills or discernment. you are either very stupid, deluded, or possibly paranoid schizophrenic. maybe all three. there is no point really discussing any of this with you are you are fixated on a set of deluded beliefs.

                                                                                          i am posting here because it`s cranks like you that are reverting the health of developed nations back to the dark ages.
                                                                                          You sound like you're losing it there PJ, take a break for a bit, have a think about what I've said. The truth hurts, especially if you've already received over 20 vaccines. I understand your reasons for denial.

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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Dcat
                                                                                            Smart, informed, and thinking people know this, but the problem is these "fucking dumb" people (as you put it) who follow the propaganda blindly and get vaccinated, eat GMO, drink fluoride, take toxic prescription drugs ..etc all end up ultimately supporting these monstrous murdering companies with their dollars. When they do, it only creates a bigger monster. Now the monster has more dollars to propagandize, and lobby government to allow more and more of their "nutritious goodness" to be foisted upon the rest of us. It's also why the vitamin/herbal/homeopathic health industry is now being so viciously attacked.

                                                                                            The only way out is to expose and educate.
                                                                                            Great post Dcat

                                                                                            I'm sensing a high IQ

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                                                                                              @ Porno Jew

                                                                                              Helping you out a bit here with genuine advice as to why avoiding Ad Hominem will improve your posts and gain you more respect on GFY

                                                                                              Ad Hominem

                                                                                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

                                                                                              "is an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or belief of the person supporting it. Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as a logical fallacy"

                                                                                              "Abusive ad hominem (also called personal abuse or personal attacks) usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponent in order to attack his claim or invalidate his argument, but can also involve pointing out true character flaws or actions that are irrelevant to the opponent's argument. This tactic is logically fallacious because insults and negative facts about the opponent's personal character have nothing to do with the logical merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions."

                                                                                              Examples

                                                                                              - "You can't believe John when he says the proposed policy would help the economy. He doesn't even have a job."

                                                                                              - "Candidate Jane's proposal about zoning is ridiculous. She was caught cheating on her taxes in 2003."

                                                                                              - "What would Mary know about fixing cars? She is a woman."

                                                                                              I know you'll be upset that I've done this in public and that I've used you as the example; you are one of the best examples. You probably don't realise what you're doing as it's just instinct, that's why I'm giving you a heads-up as to how can improve your posts.
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                you don`t listen to reason or facts.

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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  i could care less about respect on gfy. the people who thumbs up your posts have low iq's and are extremely credulous. there is nothing you post i haven't came across and researched years ago. your worldview is made up of crappy youtube videos and fake quotes. sad.

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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by porno jew
                                                                                                    i could care less about respect on gfy. the people who thumbs up your posts have low iq's and are extremely credulous. there is nothing you post i haven't came across and researched years ago. your worldview is made up of crappy youtube videos and fake quotes. sad.
                                                                                                    Sounds like you're having a think about my point, it will take time to digest; it'll do you good

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