Question for Shap & other successful programs in the babe / pornstar niche

It's worth a try rather than sit on the domain for another few years wondering what if..
I'd try to add 1 or 2 exclusive sets a month to start with and increase that number as the site grows.
Best of luck with it

Shap's explained it many times, he was very successful with non-exclusive content - the problem was his biggest and best suppliers of glamour content(Cloud9, Matrix, JokerSX) went out of business. He had no choice but to start hiring out photographers for exclusive glamour content.

I think if the non-exclusive content was available even today you can still create a paysite that is moderately successful in the glamour niche. IF, and it's a big IF, you can generate enough of your own targeted quality traffic. Without exclusive content you'll have next to no luck getting affiliate traffic.

If I wanted to find non-exclusive glamour content I would try to contact the DVD studios - they shoot stills sets as well as video. Times are tough, maybe some of them would license photosets and videos for a decent price.

Check out Adult Centro, I saw some glamour photosets on there of current adult stars.

Glamour is a tough niche.

if u do non-exclusive then your price has to be dirt cheap. im talking like $5 a month. and that price doesn't really say 'glamour'. the problem with glamour is you can't really come up with something new, even with a ton of dough. almost every glamour site is a copy of another. if u want to make money and are set on glamour, you have to tweak it somehow. like glamour milfs, sleeping glamour, glamour creampies, etc. otherwise you have zero chance of success.
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Brazzers used to be 100% NON-EXCLUSIVE content. They hired me to shoot some share (semi-exclusive) content for them. I kept telling them that they needed to go exclusive or they'd never make thier mark. The consumer doesn't give 2 shits how much money you saved on content BTW - they just buy or log off. "I've never seen her, that, him, whatever before..." enter credit card info. So they finally listened to me and went 100% exclusive and gave that non-exclusive away for free as a tube site called "Porn hub" ever heard of it? They are kind of a big deal.

1. Use non-exclusive & semi-exclusive content as a foundation (bonus) to keep the surfer from leaving imediately upon paying.

2. Shoot 12-60 (or more if you can afford it) exclusive sets and update as often as possible. Start with solo masturbation and mix in a little girl/girl & boy/girl for spice.

3. Get that shit live and making money you're going to need it to buy & update with exclusive content every week.

4. Contact every review site and ask for them to review your site. This will take a while as they are backlogged for up to 3 months depending upon thier size & popularity.

5. Play the traffic game like everyone else and pray you make your money back. And take the initiative every single day to get more traffic & content. This is not "Field of dreams" it's a fuckin sharkfight and the babe niche is the hardest (but most rewarding) to do.

Good luck!

Oh, and hit me up to shoot exclusive content with never-before seen amateurs @ [email protected]

create a site that other people will buy a membership for. one of the biggest issues with webmasters is not appealing to a broad enough market, except in small fetish niches.

I see this all the time at GFY "that chick is a pig", when in fact I know "that chick converts and retains".

another isssue I see a lot of is bad design layouts BECAUSE a 'programer' thinks it's cool.

hit me with an email I'll tell you something very interesting. sell at bmbhome dot com

The truth in this thread is this:

HOW you present your content (exclusive or not) so that it converts with traffic you "understand" how to market to equals sales. Exclusive/non-exclusive doesn't matter as much as understanding your traffic and how to sell to that traffic.

Marketing is King, Traffic is Queen

Another man I was hoping would add to this thread - have enjoyed reading your successes and have started seriously thinking about creating this site after reading a few of your threads.

With re to converting - whilst i'm no expert, I have been experimenting with a few different concepts on my affiliate sites with re to gallery / layout / etc and it has worked very well. The design for the paysite is based on less is more with design. Time will tell how it works though.

Thanks for the input MisterPeabody!

Marketing is King, Traffic is Queen

one thing about exclusive is the model exclusive or just that episode. My recollection is that most of the girls I used to promote twistys over the years appeared on a bunch of other sites. So one thing to think about is that if you pick the right models you will do fine with non-exclusive. That could be something to work toward. The key I believe is not just quality but quantity. you need both. One update a week is gonna be tough with other sites that provide network access to 30 or more sites which if they update once week that gives the surfer 4 updates day.

one thing about exclusive is the model exclusive or just that episode. My recollection is that most of the girls I used to promote twistys over the years appeared on a bunch of other sites. So one thing to think about is that if you pick the right models you will do fine with non-exclusive. That could be something to work toward. The key I believe is not just quality but quantity. you need both. One update a week is gonna be tough with other sites that provide network access to 30 or more sites which if they update once week that gives the surfer 4 updates day.

I am currently developing my first paysite in the babe / beautiful women niche.

I have a great domain (6 letters and extremely brandable), great clean design for both members and tour.

I am lacking in one area and it's a big one - content.

I have non-exclusive content which I was hoping to get things started with - naturally costs are a reason for this.

Do you guys think that it is feasible to start a site using non-exclusive content?

The domain is a few years old and has been a freesite / free paysite that collected emails (few thousand collected and 700 confirmed emails). It gets minimal traffic right now ~10k a month as it has been left to sit until I had properly thought out what to do with the domain.

I can get traffic to the site and have sites that deal with this niche so have an understanding of how to convert this type of site.

My only real concern is with re to content not being exclusive - I have a fairly clear idea as to what I would like to do if the site becomes profitable, however in the mean time i'll be picking non-exclusive content.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Paul Markham - not going to read what you have to say so please keep it to yourself.

Every set unseen by a viewer is exclusive. This whole myth started with affiliates getting turned down by TGP sites for submitting the cheap saturated content sponsors were giving them. And Zmasters selling their discs 1,000s of times.

Twistys started out with non-exclusive content that was available all over the place already.. They succeeded by truly listening to their customers, catering to them and providing multiple updates every day. They provided a product that was available elsewhere but they did it better than anyone else. There's no reason that that formula can't be repeated and succeed.

Thanks - I understand what you are saying and agree whole heartedly - pretty much the reason I started the thread.

My opinion on competing with the big sites is to not try to even think of that right now - I want to (as everyone else I imagine) create a site that i'd like to buy a membership for - content I want to go wow she's smoking hot fap time!

Honestly there is some great non-exclusive stuff out there, some banging hot models - some of the sets / attire is dated but still hot.