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12-08-2011, 05:01 PM

I am currently developing my first paysite in the babe / beautiful women niche.

I have a great domain (6 letters and extremely brandable), great clean design for both members and tour.

I am lacking in one area and it's a big one - content.

I have non-exclusive content which I was hoping to get things started with - naturally costs are a reason for this.

Do you guys think that it is feasible to start a site using non-exclusive content?

The domain is a few years old and has been a freesite / free paysite that collected emails (few thousand collected and 700 confirmed emails). It gets minimal traffic right now ~10k a month as it has been left to sit until I had properly thought out what to do with the domain.

I can get traffic to the site and have sites that deal with this niche so have an understanding of how to convert this type of site.

My only real concern is with re to content not being exclusive - I have a fairly clear idea as to what I would like to do if the site becomes profitable, however in the mean time i'll be picking non-exclusive content.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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12-08-2011, 05:03 PM

Probably need exclusive to gain any traction.

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12-08-2011, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by alias

Probably need exclusive to gain any traction.

Agreed - in a perfect world, i'd be doing this.

What I am thinking / hoping is that a site that with the right layout / choice of non-exclusive content, it can get a start. Then any money that comes in from the site can be pumped into exclusive content creation.

Right now the site is not yet ready to be launched, i'm pretty much looking at content all over the place and being extremely picky.

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12-08-2011, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by georgeyw

Agreed - in a perfect world, i'd be doing this.

What I am thinking / hoping is that a site that with the right layout / choice of non-exclusive content, it can get a start. Then any money that comes in from the site can be pumped into exclusive content creation.

Right now the site is not yet ready to be launched, i'm pretty much looking at content all over the place and being extremely picky.

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12-08-2011, 05:15 PM

That will work for a paysite, then to launch your program later you could add some exclusive or rare content. Good luck & bump for Shap.

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12-08-2011, 05:17 PM

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That will work for a paysite, then to launch your program later you could add some exclusive or rare content. Good luck & bump for Shap.

Thanks, I think non-exclusive mixed with some semi-exclusive is where it will begin.

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12-08-2011, 05:26 PM

if 2 sites have the same content the one that converts the surfer will make the money. I guess what I'm saying is understanding your traffic is possibly a bit more important than exclusive content.

however if you have been sending traffic to a site like twiistys as an affiliate it might be a bit difficult to convert your traffic to a site with 50 sets compared to the amount of content at a brazzers site.
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12-08-2011, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by georgeyw

What I am thinking / hoping is that a site that with the right layout / choice of non-exclusive content, it can get a start. Then any money that comes in from the site can be pumped into exclusive content creation.

There's your answer right there. If you have other income streams to depend on then use whatever money the site makes to create your own content.

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12-08-2011, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by georgeyw

Do you guys think that it is feasible to start a site using non-exclusive content?

Twistys started out with non-exclusive content that was available all over the place already.. They succeeded by truly listening to their customers, catering to them and providing multiple updates every day. They provided a product that was available elsewhere but they did it better than anyone else. There's no reason that that formula can't be repeated and succeed.
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12-08-2011, 05:46 PM

I've never run a site or anything, but have thought quite a bit about what I would do if I did, and I think one way you might be able to find original, exclusive content is by checking out the personal, non-paysite websites of some of the babes who you would want to have on your site because many of them will have photos from shoots they did with lesser known photographers. Be it either their friends or just photographers trying to get their name out there. For instance, here's Lindsay Marie's site. http://beverlyhillshoneys.com/ You'll see that the first set is by a photographer named Christos Sewell. There's another set by Andrew DeCarlo. Both of them are possible leads. I don't know anything about either of them, but if you check out a bunch of similar sites, you should be able to put together a solid shortlist of emerging talent.

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12-08-2011, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by bm bradley

if 2 sites have the same content the one that converts the surfer will make the money. I guess what I'm saying is understanding your traffic is possibly a bit more important than exclusive content.

however if you have been sending traffic to a site like twiistys as an affiliate it might be a bit difficult to convert your traffic to a site with 50 sets compared to the amount of content at a brazzers site.

Thanks - I understand what you are saying and agree whole heartedly - pretty much the reason I started the thread.

My opinion on competing with the big sites is to not try to even think of that right now - I want to (as everyone else I imagine) create a site that i'd like to buy a membership for - content I want to go wow she's smoking hot fap time!

Honestly there is some great non-exclusive stuff out there, some banging hot models - some of the sets / attire is dated but still hot.

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12-08-2011, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by jimmycooper

I've never run a site or anything, but have thought quite a bit about what I would do if I did, and I think one way you might be able to find original, exclusive content is by checking out the personal, non-paysite websites of some of the babes who you would want to have on your site because many of them will have photos from shoots they did with lesser known photographers. Be it either their friends or just photographers trying to get their name out there. For instance, here's Lindsay Marie's site. http://beverlyhillshoneys.com/ You'll see that the first set is by a photographer named Christos Sewell. There's another set by Andrew DeCarlo. Both of them are possible leads.

Thanks jimmy - that's a great idea, will definitely follow that train of thought up.

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12-08-2011, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by Fenris Wolf

There's your answer right there. If you have other income streams to depend on then use whatever money the site makes to create your own content.

This is the plan for the start up of the site

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Twistys started out with non-exclusive content that was available all over the place already.. They succeeded by truly listening to their customers, catering to them and providing multiple updates every day. They provided a product that was available elsewhere but they did it better than anyone else. There's no reason that that formula can't be repeated and succeed.

I do remember Shap saying something about this some time ago and was interested in what he thought with re to doing that now - back when Twistys started it would have been a completely different can of worms.

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12-08-2011, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by georgeyw

Thanks jimmy - that's a great idea, will definitely follow that train of thought up.

Good luck!
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12-08-2011, 06:07 PM

Exclusive content only counts if you are marketing to someone that has seen all the content on the net. New surfers come in all the time and all content is exclusive to them. Don't worry about it until you get big enough to shoot your own. Then all you will have to worry about is finding models that have not been photographed yet.

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