Are gay guys really lesbians ?

[SmokeyTheBear]

I have always thought of gays as women born in men's bodies. If gays are women born in men's bodies, shouldn't they want to be with a real man , not another woman born in a mans body ? being with another woman would be a lesbian .. wouldn't it make sense that a gay man should want to be with a straight man.. ?

[brassmonkey]

hell if i know

[alias]

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[Jarmusch]

All women are BI, so if gays were women born in men's bodies, they would swing both ways. Clearly that's not the case. In fact I think most gay guys' cocks shrivel up at the thought of having sex with girls.

[epitome]

Gay guys are lesbians as much as straight guys are gay guys. Or girls. Don't know which. The point is you are what you are. Labels are only there to help people understand.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Jarmusch

All women are BI

my wife says false..

[Chosen]

No

[Spunky]

Lesbians hate real cock

[Jarmusch]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

my wife says false..

All women are a few drinks away from girl on girl action. It's in their DNA.

For some it takes a few more drinks than others.

[Yngwie]

Straight men are lesbians so with that said... I'm a full blown lesbo. lol

[seeandsee]

they should upgrade their cocks with fat pussies

[Far-L]

You have got to be kidding.

You never actually considered that gay guys just prefer guys and are about as far away from having anything remotely feminine about them as one could possibly imagine?

SmokeyTheBear, this sort of trolling is just beneath your dignity. Seriously.

And for the record, forget whatever Kinsey said about people being predisposed to being bi. There are plenty of women out there that have zero attraction to other women and, no, they don't need a few drinks to realize otherwise.

Threads like this make me wish I was gay because then at least I have some pride about this rather than the shame I feel now. Porn folks should be trying to help the world overcome these sorts of stereotypes... but that is just my way of seeing it.

[John-ACWM]

lol interesting approach.

[VenzuelanChick]

Originally Posted by Far-L

You have got to be kidding.

You never actually considered that gay guys just prefer guys and are about as far away from having anything remotely feminine about them as one could possibly imagine?

SmokeyTheBear, this sort of trolling is just beneath your dignity. Seriously.

And for the record, forget whatever Kinsey said about people being predisposed to being bi. There are plenty of women out there that have zero attraction to other women and, no, they don't need a few drinks to realize otherwise.

Threads like this make me wish I was gay because then at least I have some pride about this rather than the shame I feel now. Porn folks should be trying to help the world overcome these sorts of stereotypes... but that is just my way of seeing it.

[slapass]

I think you are missing that the tag "gay" is the beginning of the story. There are a fair amount of variations after that. Tops and bottoms being the biggest one. That is where you get your girlie gays (not always) and your macho gays (not always).

I was sitting around a table with 3 gay guys. My girl leans way over to sip her drink, and her boobs are almost falling out. I look around quickly to see who noticed. No one did. They are gay! That was the moment I really got it. They like guys just as much as I like girls.

[crash_jackson]

damn... never thought about it...

[Jarmusch]

Originally Posted by VenzuelanChick

You would like you would turn bi after a couple of drinks.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by Far-L

And for the record, forget whatever Kinsey said about [anything]

Fixed.

There are plenty of women out there that have zero attraction to other women and, no, they don't need a few drinks to realize otherwise.

Plenty? I'd say most. I assumed the poster claiming all women are bi was trolling. It's as silly as claiming no women are into empty meaningless sex, or women are not promiscuous. Not only are many, if not most, women repulsed by lesbianism (as well as male gay sex), many are flat out homophobic.

Threads like this make me wish I was gay because then at least I have some pride about this rather than the shame I feel now. Porn folks should be trying to help the world overcome these sorts of stereotypes... but that is just my way of seeing it.

But what you just said there is every bit as much of a generalization/stereotype as other people make: that gay people are somehow more sensible or reasonable or 'better', because they are gay. Many gay people are total fucking morons and bigots.

[Topbuxom Lea]

Originally Posted by Spunky

Lesbians hate real cock

So not true....

-L

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by Spunky

Lesbians hate real cock

Yet all their toys and power tools are penis shaped.

It's all terribly ironic if you ask me.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

But what you just said there is every bit as much of a generalization/stereotype as other people make: that gay people are somehow more sensible or reasonable or 'better', because they are gay. Many gay people are total fucking morons and bigots.

No, I wasn't making that assumption at all though I get your point and don't disagree. I just wanted to play with "Pride vs Shame" in the sentence for making my point.

If there weren't stupid gay people that were ashamed of being gay then Michelle Bachman's husband would never be able to take advantage them with "correction" therapy.

[pimpware]

Are gay guys really lesbians ?

Only when they suck pussy

[Jarmusch]

Originally Posted by Jarmusch

You would like you would turn bi after a couple of drinks.

Sorry, that should be "You look like you would turn bi after a couple of drinks."

Not that there's anything wrong with it.

[CDSmith]

I need more coffee obviously.

This is way too deep a discussion for Monday.

[lucas131]

so you are not sure if you are gay or lesbian?

[Rebel D]

i figured straight guys were lesbians.

[Biggie Smalls Web Writing]

C'mon gay guys, help us lil bit

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Far-L

You have got to be kidding.

You never actually considered that gay guys just prefer guys and are about as far away from having anything remotely feminine about them as one could possibly imagine?

that doesn't fit with reality though , gay guys are often very feminine. What i am saying is shouldn't they be attracted to straight guys not other gays ?

Originally Posted by Far-L

SmokeyTheBear, this sort of trolling is just beneath your dignity. Seriously.

i am not trolling, just trying to understand that's all.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Yet all their toys and power tools are penis shaped.

It's all terribly ironic if you ask me.

Actually, not true. I know lesbians that abhor cock shaped toys. One even designed a "for lesbians" line of sensual products that does everything possible to avoid any hint of resembling a dick. Even the "strap on" in the line doesn't go on the pelvis but around the leg.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by Far-L

No, I wasn't making that assumption at all though I get your point and don't disagree. I just wanted to play with "Pride vs Shame" in the sentence for making my point.

Funnily enough your comment, the previous one that I replied to, reminded me of Kurt Cobain, who hung out with a gay lad at school and said he started to feel proud to be gay even though he wasn't. He also said he wished he was gay, just to piss off homophobes.

If there weren't stupid gay people that were ashamed of being gay then Michelle Bachman's husband would never be able to take advantage them with "correction" therapy.

Yeah, it's funny, I personally don't really want to see gay acts (even kissing) all over the place, but I don't know if that's an instinctive, base thing, that it's "unnatural" (in which case I as a human have the capacity to override it with intelligence, logic or reason), or if it's just brainwashing. Ie, if you're brought up where gayness is inferior or hidden, then it's an abnormal feeling to see it.

Probably both, since there is persecution of gay people everywhere in the world, in every culture, though I think it's not necessarily just about being gay, but about being different. Thing is, differences are what makes the world an interesting place.

I can understand people feeling "ashamed" of being a certain way though, because 'society' looks down on those things and considers them 'wrong'. And even if they're content that they are gay, they might still feel they have to keep it a secret, or feel embarrassed about other people knowing. And I don't blame them for that.

The people I have least respect for are those who won't even admit to themselves that they are gay (eg, men who like trannies). Because if you won't even admit it to yourself that you're gay, you obviously think it's wrong or bad, and are homophobic/self-hating.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Actually, not true. I know lesbians that abhor cock shaped toys. One even designed a "for lesbians" line of sensual products that does everything possible to avoid any hint of resembling a dick. Even the "strap on" in the line doesn't go on the pelvis but around the leg.

Plus another minor difference is that a dildo, unlike a cock, isn't attached to a big hairy dude.

[munki]

<--- waiting for kinsey to weigh in...

[Topbuxom Lea]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Yet all their toys and power tools are penis shaped.

It's all terribly ironic if you ask me.

And.....Not True......sigh

-L

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Yet all their toys and power tools are penis shaped.

Maybe you have a funny shaped penis.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

that doesn't fit with reality though , gay guys are often very feminine. What i am saying is shouldn't they be attracted to straight guys not other gays ?


i am not trolling, just trying to understand that's all.

That's where you are wrong. You only know they're gay because they're feminine. Then there are guys like me that people don't know I am unless I tell them.

Butch = top, feminine = bottom isn't always true, either. Not even close.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by epitome

That's where you are wrong. You only know they're gay because they're feminine. Then there are guys like me that people don't know I am unless I tell them. .

unfortunately us hetero's only get our gay info from the flamboyant ones.

obviously there are "shades" of gay just as there are "shades" of straight..

I'm sure many asians are good drivers, we just notice bad drivers when they are asian.

Can you spot most gay men ? what is it you notice ? is it a feminine aspect ?

Would you say most gay men are the noticeable ones to hetero's or the ones you can't see ?

Do you feel like a woman trapped in a mans body or just a guy who likes guys who like guys ?

[fogfever]

chaz bono is a male lesbian

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

unfortunately us hetero's only get our gay info from the flamboyant ones.

obviously there are "shades" of gay just as there are "shades" of straight..

I'm sure many asians are good drivers, we just notice bad drivers when they are asian.

Can you spot most gay men ? what is it you notice ? is it a feminine aspect ?

Would you say most gay men are the noticeable ones to hetero's or the ones you can't see ?

Do you feel like a woman trapped in a mans body or just a guy who likes guys who like guys ?

Speak for yourself. Can you spot a programmer just because you see him drinking mountain dew?

For the record, there are plenty of flamboyant, feminine, fey guys that aren't the least bit gay and actually notoriously and rampantly hetero... you may in fact know one or two of them yourself from this board.

Why you trying to slap all these stereotype labels on people?

[Jarmusch]

I'm starting to think "SmokeyTheBear" is a big gay bear on a mission to troll.


EDIT: Found his pic

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Topbuxom Lea

So not true....

-L

now you got me interested... you just feel nothing? don't care?