Everyone I know would l o fucking l at this. I have been a step ahead of the masses here since the day I registered. What cracks me up about the whole thing is that it's not even like I'm some super genius or a fortune teller, I just have common sense. It's really not some difficult to understand concept and the fact that so many have it so wrong is :1orglaugh. There is a chance that Manwin will stop .xxx but I put that chance at well under 1%. In other words, everyone should be ready for a world that includes .xxx, like it or fucking not.

Wrong. So long as they are still in business and so long as anyone is still promoting their websites, MR is winning the war. Most people on gfy just want to troll and bitch. It really is a shame too bc that entire shitshow of a company could easily be destroyed within 2-3 months, I'm just not willing to spend all of my time and solely my own money to make it happen at the moment.

What metric did you use to arrive at 'less than 1%'? A Paul Markhem spreadsheet?

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Clueless. You have as much of a chance at destroying that company as you do winning a women's gold medal in the olympics.

Jesus Christ, can we unban the trolls that at least had more sense than the current crop?

Common fucking sense and 10+ years of watching this shit go down.

I know it's hard for those without to grasp but common sense can tell you a lot of things. You don't have to study something from top to bottom to have a damn good idea of how things will go. It's not like we even have to wait that long to see how .xxx is embraced, hit me a month after registrations open and let me know just how bad off they are doing and how the whole industry is boycotting them. :1orglaugh

Sorry, but you are completely wrong here. People moan and complain about Gideon all day long,in the majority of arguments his reasoning is bewildering and baffling, simple fact is though he is correct.
Have tubes gone? no. Has there been a major copyright breakthrough? no. Are torrents still available? yes. Piracy is as strong as ever. Did Gideon predict this? You can bet your sweet ass he did.

it sucks, the whole piracy issue and it even sucks that he supports it but Gideon knows his shit.

is there any clear break through in sight? no. sopa is a joke

exactly, its about money, if people can make money from xxx they will, if they lose money from not being able to conduct business with brazzers they will drop xxx
people have no long term vision, me included.

The only webmaster who I know boycotted Brazzers because of the tube sites was klen telaris and I am not even 100% sure that he has any traffic.

everyone else was happy to make easy money with juggcash and selling hardlinks to porntube (again me included).

People like to spout of the idealistic tripe of "If we all stick together then" which is noble but never works in reality. GFY is not the adult internet, we will not control what others do online and we damn sure won't scare them with some boycott or another. If every single user here treated .xxx as scum there would be many more that would embrace it and continue on with business.

It's like they have some misguided idea that GFY = the adult internet when there are so many silent players and huge companies that have never even seen this website.

Knowing all of that, you would be a damn fool to cost yourself money on principle. You can say 'we should do x' but we know ahead of time that it's not going to happen so any worthless gesture you make is just that. What many will do is publicly say one thing then wait for someone else to take the heat before saying "yeah, we are too since everyone else did". This is true in every industry and always will be.

Now if we had an actual lobby that took votes on how everyone would act AND we could make people stick to that we might have a chance. Unfortunately, Lawley or whoever is about to have more money than everyone on GFY combined and they already know how to use it to their benefit.

Please elaborate as to why you think they could not be destroyed.

How will you know if they are doing well or not ? Even though you claim to possess a supernatural level of common sense, it goes without saying that you are completely and entirely irrelevant when it comes to any and all industry issues. Pretty sad for someone with 10+ years of experience. Have you thought about applying your supernatural common sense to another industry? Maybe one where you'd at least have a sliver of a chance at mattering? Or has your supernatural common sense told you that it's best to stay in adult even if it means you have to do so without the aid of a graphic designer ?

You mistake me for someone that wants to be relevant? I stay away from people, stay away from shows and don't do anything to be relevant. My goal is to make money and I do that in mainstream both online and off as well as adult. I only matter to me and my family and intend to keep it that way. Also, I have no idea what you mean when talking about a designer, I hired one last week but never "needed" one in my life.

What's the matter Tube Boy, is he hitting a little too close to home?

Perhaps you should take this opportunity to log out and give your act a rest.

God knows it needs one.



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What the fuck are you talking about? :1orglaugh

I'm not expecting MR to be around much longer personally :2 cents:

I view it this way... If you don't need the money, then you can take a personal stance against it if you want to. Or, if you feel strongly enough, you could be willing to take a hit to stand up for that.

Beyond that, it comes down to figuring out what you might "lose" as a result of accepting, or not accepting the galleries. Will you lose more revenue by accepting the galleries from others taking a stance? Will you lose traffic from those that might stop trading with you? Will your rep take a hit that will result in a loss of revenue and/or traffic or narrow your future business options?

Some have said it's a business decision and that's correct to a certain extent. But the business decision has to take in more than just the immediate cash in the account.

Well said Tempest :thumbsup:thumbsup

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It only took me 10+ years to figure that out lol

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Paying $100 for a damn domain name has no bearing on what other services are worth. $100 per YEAR is such a non issue in business and spending an extra $90 on your domain does not make you rich / stupid / anything else. If I go buy a .com from someone for $500 everyone should charge me extra because I'm stupid? :1orglaugh




You said it, I didnt! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You don't have clients.

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anyone who needs ads hit me up. 50% discount, just mention shemps thread.

http://www.getbannersmade.com :thumbsup

Times are rough eh?

Didn't you have me on ignore btw?

If your not listed in Forbes 500 richest in America, you would be a fool to turn down any business.

Trust me, most of the so called haters for the .xxx extension are purchase the .xxx domains. I am early in this business and it shows no loyalty...

Each day checking the .xxx availability of domains, and the list gets smaller and smaller. This is an adult list...

Also all the negative threads have back fired since your giving a ton of free promotion. Negative press usually makes a positive, Howard Stern became famous like this. Rappers too.

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I meant to answer this before - Its been a long day though....

If you can afford it then please take a stance.

If you can not then don't feel bad - We all have to eat.

thanks for all the replies..im still in a quandry on this ...

No-o-o-o-o-o-o!!!!!

The problem Shemp - as I'm sure you do not need ME or anyone else to mention this, but here goes - the econmic times SUCK. So when money is dangled any businessman will have a rough time just immediately saying NO. Anyone with a business mind can appreciate your dilemma man. Good luck with whatever you decide. My opinion is the first line of this post. :)

I was looking for the right words to express myself in this thread and now you've just posted them.... word for word.

Shemp, I too wish you good luck with whatever you decide.

I would not.

Shemp, if you're worried about the reaction from the crew here just give it a few months and they'll see what the deal is and shut up.

yes, i guess things do calm down over time, buti don't want to do anything stupid and have my Big Woody award rescinded...
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=552513

Do what you want and fuck what everyone on here says, one way or the other. If you're fine personally with taking galleries from a legal tld take them and fuck the opposing view. If you're against taking galleries from a tld you feel is the beginning of censorship, adult ghetto-ness, and the end of adult, don't take them and fuck the opposing view.

Lets all boycott .xxx and while we are at it, lets shut down all tube and tgp sites.

Then we can get back to selling porn again.

The creation of XXX was not desired by the industry, was not wanted by the industry but is a money making scheme.

For success it hopes people will be scared enough to buy a over priced XXX ending.

For that they get nothing of value and make it easier for the opponents of adult to switch their site off, ghetto it and ban it.

There is a risk it could make banning the whole adult industry easier or gutting it.

Com ending works, will continue to work, and unless there is mass stupidity in buying xxx if will be a dud like .mob

:2 cents:

take their money and dont list their galleries

Toss a coin. Sounds daft, but you subconsciously know which way you want it to land.

Still feel the same as on page 1 but with a little more thought now.

.xxx galleries on shemp.xxx
? You're not 'contaminating' your main site
? It also covers you against any territorial blocks that may come in - eg. if someone from Australia ends up unable to see any .xxx sites they will just be blocked from shemp.xxx and everything on it, rather than going to shemp.com and then being annoyed by the block making a percentage of the listed links useless.

funny discussion. At the end of the day everyone who still survives will be doing business with .xxx. It has always worked this way.

Anyone know where I can get some banners made?

LOL!!!!!111one

name one prohibition that has successfully worked ?

I'm gonna throw my two cents in here. I know no one gives a fuck what I think but I think someone has to say it.

If something threatens the industry as a whole you're damn straight you should be against it. That's not sticking your head in the sand at all. The people who are being unrealistic are the ones just worried about their own bank account or saying everyone else is licking the dog's ass, I'd be crazy not to.

You want to lick the dog's ass, go for it.

Sometime we had better start growing a pair as an industry. What is right is right and what is wrong is wrong. Full stop. No debate.

And by the way, you don't have to throw morals out the window to be a capitalist.

Here's a crazy idea. Why don't you stop .xxx? All you have to do is draw a line in the sand. The next person sees you do that and it might inspire them to do the same.......and so on. We have the power to effect change, every last single one of us.

Instead you prefer to to be a cheerleader for the industry fucking itself........hmm.

Charge a much higher fee and donate the additional money to a worthwhile charity.
It's the only way anything good will come out of .xxx

If we have the power then you stop it. I'm not so idealistic that I think I am going to stop a multi million dollar company. They don't need me, they don't need you. You are in the kiddie pool and they just created their own ocean complete with ocean front property. Get some perspective.

Tell ya what shemp, might ov jumped the gun with my earlier response. `
Dig it, people were dissin tubes now all the ones downin em own a tube! ` Same shits gonna be with .xxx ` Biz is biz do what ya gotta do! `

Personally I don't think .xxx is going to be as big as everyone thinks. Probably not much more than .co, .info, .biz or any of the other extensions. I think the guy that is selling the .xxx extension doesn't really expect it either or he wouldn't have priced them sky-high. If he had put them on the market at the .com price it would have become the 4th biggest after .com, .net and .org. A must have. Now it is more than 10 -15 years coming into the game and people think it is a gamechanger? I don't think so. The .xxx extension is going be a minority player and nothing more.

shemp here is some serious advice.

let your business be shaped by people on a message board who have never sent any money to you, never will, have no influence on people who do. consider the opinions of those who post about aspects of the business they are not part of, but who love to be part of the internet lynch mob of the week because it fulfills a psychological need for them. lose five customers in order to please the one who is a white knight for every in internet cause. take the opinions of those on message boards who will decry your business ethics but do the exact same thing behind your back. take a huge stand on a message board about something you have no control over in order to give yourself an illusory feeling of control.

hope that helps.

I do. :1orglaugh

My perspective is that if I never let anyone fuck me over because I bent over for them.

registering shemp.xxx may be considered endorsing .xxx
although, i do see the merit in your post

$10 towards IFFOR in Washington = $10 towards getting adult banned from .COMs :2 cents:

do you need the money?