Those were the days (of business on this board)

[CurrentlySober]

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/
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[NETbilling]

Your voice mail should be humming with my husbands plea for a return phone call....Why your guys want to stick us for our paper??

we are talking about right and wrong here...not bulls shit risk department red tape which can be used to steal from hard working creative small biz owners...

You do see whats happening, and you have some obligation to help right the wrong

Hi,

I have nothing to do with your account and my staff has been working with your husband and you. I hope you get your issue resolved with the bank. It is out of our hands.

[SwirlsGirl]

Hi,

I have nothing to do with your account and my staff has been working with your husband and you. I hope you get your issue resolved with the bank. It is out of our hands.

There is a little more to the story as you well know, and certainly any rational intelligent human being knows there are 2 sides to every story...

It is a new year, and despite our shall we say misfortune of hooking up with your "BANK"

we hold no grudge and are not bitter, because even with the cruddy shit that transpired we have since had great things happen to us, so we will not re hash the crud from 2011 but you should consider this...

The next time one of your clients calls you multiple times out of desperation and anger because they felt they were railroaded...be humane enough to return the call or send an email.

If you are honest with yourself you know you could have returned a phone call...that would have meant a lot and would have showed us that you were sympathetic to our misfortune....

No hard feelings, we really respected and appreciated the relationship, but we are on to greener pasteurs...best of future luck to you, your staff, and your company

[ruff]

Any peckerwood with a computer and $5 a month hosting is now a porn webmaster is what happened. Oh yeah, tubes too!

[NETbilling]

Any peckerwood with a computer and $5 a month hosting is now a porn webmaster is what happened. Oh yeah, tubes too!

Well there is still alot of business being done on here, once you wade through all of the BS. Maybe a GFY biz only forum would be good?

[papill0n]

Well there is still alot of business being done on here, once you wade through all of the BS. Maybe a GFY biz only forum would be good?

you mean the BS of threads like this one ?

yeah you go play on your own little biz board and you can start up your 'why arent their any business threads ' there

[Paul Markham]

Any peckerwood with a computer and $5 a month hosting is now a porn webmaster is what happened. Oh yeah, tubes too!

Have you seen the thread by CurrentlySober about the free tube from Pimproll?

170+ replies and everyone is all over it like it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Like we need more people giving away more free porn. Like we need a hole in the head.

Yes still a lot of business done, by giving away more free porn. Will wait to see how that all prospers without selling ad space to dating, cams and penis pills.

[12clicks]

A lot of good people got banned because of little bitches crying to the mods.

No "good people" were banned

[12clicks]

There is a little more to the story as you well know, and certainly any rational intelligent human being knows there are 2 sides to every story...

It is a new year, and despite our shall we say misfortune of hooking up with your "BANK"

we hold no grudge and are not bitter, because even with the cruddy shit that transpired we have since had great things happen to us, so we will not re hash the crud from 2011 but you should consider this...

The next time one of your clients calls you multiple times out of desperation and anger because they felt they were railroaded...be humane enough to return the call or send an email.

If you are honest with yourself you know you could have returned a phone call...that would have meant a lot and would have showed us that you were sympathetic to our misfortune....

No hard feelings, we really respected and appreciated the relationship, but we are on to greener pasteurs...best of future luck to you, your staff, and your company

Shut up.

[chaze]

I love to talk about business, always have.

What do you think is going to thrive in 2012 or die?

[OldJeff]

Shut up.

hahahahahahahahahahaha

[12clicks]

Well if you didn't jump on spamming any thread about any billing company posted here and instead act a little more professional then you might get more business.

A job hopping board whore has no business talking to Mitch like that.
Shut the fuck up and go start another thread explaining who you're working for this week.

[Paul Markham]

I love to talk about business, always have.

What do you think is going to thrive in 2012 or die?

If I knew the last thing I would do is tell people, let them find out when it's too late.

[Wizzo]

Have you seen the thread by CurrentlySober about the free tube from Pimproll?

170+ replies and everyone is all over it like it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Like we need more people giving away more free porn. Like we need a hole in the head.

Yes still a lot of business done, by giving away more free porn. Will wait to see how that all prospers without selling ad space to dating, cams and penis pills.

I believe Dave made you an offer to make money with hosted tube, but I assume you will not take him up on it or you would lose your favorite thing to complain about.

[Wizzo]

Any peckerwood with a computer and $5 a month hosting is now a porn webmaster is what happened. Oh yeah, tubes too!

Its always been the case, I started as many with 10pics and freehosted site on Porncity in 1997, the difference is that I like everyone else back then were making great money.

I do think AVN/GFY could use a little house cleaning though, like this thread for example, you have two business people in TMM John and Mojo Brad trying to offer some business advice and discussion but its reduced to a middle school type response that they support piracy and fairly sure neither hold that position and likely said fuck it I have better things to do then argue like middle schoolers.

[cherrylula]

Have you seen the thread by CurrentlySober about the free tube from Pimproll?

170+ replies and everyone is all over it like it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Like we need more people giving away more free porn. Like we need a hole in the head.

Yes still a lot of business done, by giving away more free porn. Will wait to see how that all prospers without selling ad space to dating, cams and penis pills.

Same thing happened when hosted galleries came out. etc.

[Paul Markham]

I believe Dave made you an offer to make money with hosted tube, but I assume you will not take him up on it or you would lose your favorite thing to complain about.

For guys selling traffic to dating, webcam, penis pills Tubes are great. They don't spend on the content only an advert. If they had to provide the content, which diluted their sales, they would be pissed off. More than pissed off, they would be flaming mad, especially if their free tubes with their free products were being used to sell advert to paysites.

I'm old enough to remember when porn was sold to guys who wanted to jerk off. Now it's their to let guys boast they have a billion impressions a day to sell. Yes the days when porn made real money. Still Tempus fugit. I'm happy to have made my money, still make a good living and got a pension to see me through the rest of my days.

If Dave offered me a free hosted tube, I don't remember it. If he would offer it, I would take it, supply the domain and leave it for me to personally jerk off to it every day. Courtesy of Dave.

As for feeding it traffic, working on it, etc. To earn a scraping after buying traffic from people, I don't think so. Maybe when the sites close, not any time soon, maybe I will put them on the four working domains. His servers, his site, etc and let the traffic we get come to it. will inform affiliates of course.

Will still moan that free porn is replacing paid porn.

[Wizzo]

For guys selling traffic to dating, webcam, penis pills Tubes are great. They don't spend on the content only an advert. If they had to provide the content, which diluted their sales, they would be pissed off. More than pissed off, they would be flaming mad, especially if their free tubes with their free products were being used to sell advert to paysites.

I'm old enough to remember when porn was sold to guys who wanted to jerk off. Now it's their to let guys boast they have a billion impressions a day to sell. Yes the days when porn made real money. Still Tempus fugit. I'm happy to have made my money, still make a good living and got a pension to see me through the rest of my days.

If Dave offered me a free hosted tube, I don't remember it. If he would offer it, I would take it, supply the domain and leave it for me to personally jerk off to it every day. Courtesy of Dave.

As for feeding it traffic, working on it, etc. To earn a scraping after buying traffic from people, I don't think so. Maybe when the sites close, not any time soon, maybe I will put them on the four working domains. His servers, his site, etc and let the traffic we get come to it. will inform affiliates of course.

Will still moan that free porn is replacing paid porn.

http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1052204 <- he wants hire you!

[topnotch, standup guy]

They banned people for having a "Go Fuck Yourself" attitude to pretty it up for Playboy.

Hey look! Tube Boy is chiming in.

Actually, I do agree with your first observation here.

They locked down registrations and made people contact an admin that never answered ICQ to post or even read the forums.

You're right, that was really dumb.

Half of the industry left because they swore "I will never do business with tube sites or anyone that does business with tube sites!" (See Steve Lightspeed)

"Half the industry" at the time (more than that really) had no interest in doing business with fucking thieves.

Odd that someone would see that as a bad thing.

Some old timers quit focusing on making money and instead decided to grrrrrr get even with those dirty porn leachers by suing them.

Who's to say that most of them weren't doing both?

As for them recouping losses from freeloading leechers, that's not only right, it's smart.

Some card bangers bought up a lot of good programs right at the peak then abused the fuck out of their customers and the webmasters that sent those customers.

Agreed.

The economy exploded a few different times sending many back to work.

You mean out of work, don't you? As in like fewer customers with disposable income.

Aside from a few programs are still doing the same things they were doing in 2004 even though the landscape is completely different. Adapt or die was never more fitting.

And by "adapt or die" I take it that you mean to do business with or (even worse) to actually become illegal tube scum themselves.

Some of us here would rather suck off a canine than do such. Your mileage may vary.

A surprising number of affiliates that have been here for years still have no understanding of how this industry works, even the basic stuff.

Still? As in that they never had an understanding of how this industry works?

You're kidding, right?

Or do you think that up until a couple of years ago they were all just plain lucky and now all of a sudden their luck has run out?

Epassporte probably squashed a lot of third world webmasters and definitely squashed a lot of those that chose to hide their cash for one reason or another.

I would say definitely on both counts.

Certain people attack those that are successful here to the point that they make entire threads unreadable, killing further discussion. P.M. especially loves doing this, see his lectures to Shap.

This place has always been swiming with trolls, nothing new there. The trolls stand out more nowadays because there are fewer genuine players left. Additionally, some people are called out for good reason.

A couple of companies bought up a lot of programs taking a lot of 'important' figures out of the industry and off of the boards.

True.

But happily we still have a few 'important' figures such as yourself and porno jew amongst us
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[Barefootsies]

No "good people" were banned

Exactly.

If you were banned, it was because you couldn't follow the rules. It really is that simple. They are not that hard to follow. If you were BANNED FOR LIFE, it was because you were given three strikes (often times more) and you still could not seem to muster any self control and follow the rules. You more than EARNED your ban.

[papill0n]

For guys selling traffic to dating, webcam, penis pills Tubes are great. They don't spend on the content only an advert. If they had to provide the content, which diluted their sales, they would be pissed off. More than pissed off, they would be flaming mad, especially if their free tubes with their free products were being used to sell advert to paysites.

I'm old enough to remember when porn was sold to guys who wanted to jerk off. Now it's their to let guys boast they have a billion impressions a day to sell. Yes the days when porn made real money. Still Tempus fugit. I'm happy to have made my money, still make a good living and got a pension to see me through the rest of my days.

If Dave offered me a free hosted tube, I don't remember it. If he would offer it, I would take it, supply the domain and leave it for me to personally jerk off to it every day. Courtesy of Dave.

As for feeding it traffic, working on it, etc. To earn a scraping after buying traffic from people, I don't think so. Maybe when the sites close, not any time soon, maybe I will put them on the four working domains. His servers, his site, etc and let the traffic we get come to it. will inform affiliates of course.

Will still moan that free porn is replacing paid porn.

this is why you 10 years behind even the most stupid webmaster

you are so confused with the whole concept of adult that all you can do is just blurt out whatever shit comes into your head

the guy with a billion impressions is making money paul

you are not paul

see the difference you clown